Wow you highlighted an entirely different part of the comment great job. You sure proved your point by confirming you lied.

Even fencesitter tier leftists like Noah Samsen have already voiced my position. https://youtu.be/b0Ot0me5ocQ

You are going to voice it whenever the celebrity you worship starts doing. Who is it, Hasan Piker?

And there is the crux of your problem you are incapable of understanding arguments because your only way of interacting with them is whether you like the person. "If BadEmpanada says it then it must be false!". Cult of personality leftist.

I show you direct evidence that I said what I claimed I said, and you're still lying? I don't know that I've ever seen someone lying so blatantly.

You are going to voice it whenever the celebrity you worship starts doing. Who is it, Hasan Piker?

I really, really need you to understand that not everyone is like you where they're obsessed with some random idiot on Youtube or Twitch and blindly follow whatever the fuck they say. Some of us read books which are also known as theory. And think critically about those books even! You should try it sometime!

Maybe V.I. Lenin is just poaching Bad Empanada's ideas and in a couple years he'll wake up, punch through the glass Simpsons' style, and say "Actually, we should be hating the Jewish race instead of the state of Israel." At which point I would realize that I've misjudged him terribly and reevaluate everything I've read of his.

Cult of personality leftist.

This is the biggest projection of any projection that anyone has ever projected.

"If you don't blindly follow this Youtuber I'm obsessed with and suddenly become racist when he tells you to, like I do, you're in a cult of personality!"

Your understanding of reading was "All Palestians believe in the Elders of Zion"

Don't pretend. You just have a bookcase full of stuff you never read past the introduction.

Unlike you I don't blindly follow or oppose anyone. I have plenty of gripes with BE but that won't stop me from posting their good takes because I don't do Zionist wrecker purity testing like you do to expell every anti Palestian voice from the movement.

Your understanding of reading was “All Palestians believe in the Elders of Zion”

First you lie and say that I didn't say what I said, now you've moved on to lying by just making shit up whole cloth, completely unrelated to anything I've ever said.

Don’t pretend. You just have a bookcase full of stuff you never read past the introduction.

Unbelievable. Your brain is rotted through so far that you can't even conceive of someone who's brain isn't rotted through the same way.

expell every anti Palestian voice from the movement.

Freudian slip?

You want to expel my voice because I didn't meet your purity test by not being racist enough.

"Aha I called for you to be permanently banned but you are the real purity tester"

You are confirming over and over that you are a lying grifter just here to lie and grift for Israel.

Have fun stanning for Zohran Mamdani you're getting blocked here too. You are not worth my time.

You are confirming over and over that you are a lying grifter just here to lie and grift for Israel.

This guy genuinely needs help. Banning him and making him touch grass would be a mercy.

Talmud says you can lie to acquit a jew aganist a non-jew (baba kamma 113a)

Then you see conviction rate of palestinians vs israelis in occupied palestine. But if you connect the two, you are anti-semitic.

When a palestinian is murdered, their murderers say they are jewish, but if the palestinian being murdered were to condemn jews, they would be called anti-semitic.

Sure there are peaceful, non-zionist jews like natura karta. But vast majority jews do support israeli actions.

If mosques in Europe and USA invited leaders of alqaeda or ISIS, and praised them, nobody would hesitate in condemning muslims.

Until synagogues start condemning Israeli state like mosques condemn ISIS and alqaeda, judaism is zionism. Anyone who think otherwise is just a hypocrite.

Sure there are peaceful, non-zionist jews like natura karta. But vast majority jews do support israeli actions.

Irrelevant. The percentage of Jews who are Zionists does not matter, unless it's 100%. It is still more accurate to target criticism at Zionists, a category that includes the entire problem and only the problem, than at Jews, only some of whom are part of the problem, and who don't cover the entire problem. Objecting to the distinction between Jews and Zionists and calling it "Hasbara" is completely wrong.

If mosques in Europe and USA invited leaders of alqaeda or ISIS, and praised them, nobody would hesitate in condemning muslims.

Bullshit. I would absolutely not blame Muslims in general for the actions of some mosques. Just because there are lots of people who are racists doesn't mean we all are.

I don't think the Talmud is very relevant to this. What's far more relevant is that statistically

99% of Jewish Organizations Worldwide are Zionist.

Even when Zohran Mamdani recently gave his "combating antisemitism" funding he gave it to Zionist orgs and basically said he wasn't able to find any non-Zionist Jewish organisations to give it to.

A distinction between Jews as individuals, and Zionism can be made. But Judaism as a religion (which is what the sign in the OOP is about) is absolutely wholly intertwined with Zionism to the point where the difference is so minimal that it's not important at all. It just distracts from the Palestinians getting genocided. As explained in articles such as "Jewish settlers stole my house. It’s not my fault they’re Jewish". or "The Hollowed Vocabulary: Jewish Voice for Peace and the Institutional Capture of Anti-Zionism"

Queue the Western brained libs coming to yell at me for saying what Palestinian authors are communicating themselves because they have never read or heard anything by a Palestinian.

PTB and philosemitism. Scholars such as Joseph Massad and Norman Finkelstein have extensively talked about this subject for years. It is not controversial topic. In the West Holocaust education kicks in on any debate around Judaism. Instantly shutting it down because any criticism of it equals gas chambers.

Sorry for having the capacity to separate an inalienable quality from a political ideology. I also find it interesting you haven't denied it.

The argument isn't for the Zionists, it's for the people the Zionists might influence.

They don't care how well you make the distinction. They will give the money to Zionist organisations anyway by abusing conflating Zionism and Judaism to pump up antisemitism numbers and then turn it into a weapon to support Israel.

In case of the OOP it doesn't refer to individual Jews but to Judaism as a religion where Zionism has become core doctrine over the last century. Of course most people don't know this because there #ZionismIsNotJudaism signs are constantly shoved into their face and acknowledging the reality quickly gets you met with accusations of being an "antisemite" even here on Lemmy by all the Liberal Zionists. 99% of Jewish Organisations Worldwide are Zionist

Governments such as in the UK and Zohran Mamdani in the US can then give millions of dollars to "combat antisemitism" to Zionist organisations which will then use this funding to fight anyone opposing Israel. Zohran just came out and said he basically wasn't able to find any non-Zionist Jewish organisations to give the money to and therefore gave it to Zionists. But apparently he's not "antisemitic" for this because he's the favourite DSA poster boy.

And the reason why is because people are refusing to address the crux of the issue that there is "rising anitsemitism" when in reality there just isn't. Jews aren't facing any type of systemic discrimination and are just very privileged white people. There's no reason to do massive PR campaigns for Judaism all the time. Focus on Palestinians instead which are literally getting genocided.

I haven't heard you saying you support the dissolution of Israel and full right of Palestinians to the land yet. Can you confirm you're not a Zionist?

That's a justified resolution but not very realistic. Obviously full right of return and reparations,. Obviously the government needs to be tried in the hague and the population reeducated. Obviously there needs to be an actual democratic state implemented and not an apartheid. If you're implying kicking millions out of modern day Israel (shit, new state is named Palestine now too), I think that's a little far and causing a lot of extra harm for a kind of retribution that would be valid but overall bad.

If that makes me a zionist to you, that's wild.

Democratic state? Do you get to decide the Palestinians fate? You support the expulsion of all the colonists or not?

Do you think the Algerians had no right to kick out the French colonists either?

Here's your problem: You keep thinking about the feeling of the colonizing oppressors instead of the colonized and oppressed.

I'm thinking of both, especially the children that were born there and know nothing else.

I'm saying kicking 10 million people out of their homes (albeit mostly stolen), is not ideal. I want solutions, not a revenge fantasy (even if justified).