Shit bantz. Please don't pretend to understand Ireland and Northern Ireland's politics.

*looks inside *

*sees 20% of country being occupied *

Oh don't get me wrong. The north of Ireland of the most heavily propagandized to in modern history.

Tiocfaidh ár lá

Away on.

That's some stiff competition.

Ohhh hello ml user, would you like to explain how the politics of ireland eorks to me? I dont know of course because im no expert, i only lived there for years. Will you also explain how monarchy is also good? Or what is your next shitty ass take?

How familiar are you with the Lebor Gabála Érenn?

Ach amháin ní thosóinn os bun.

I can almost read it. MOAR JPEG

An ML user defending settler colonialism, now I’ve seen it all.

The .ml is a good indicator for crazy, but I think they have a point. Ireland is divided along religious lines, which makes the North side with the UK to a large extent. I know someone from NI, who is pretty happy about being part of the UK as well. Not a representative sample, but opened my eyes to the complexity of the divided Ireland.

Edit: feel free to elaborate how you saw things when living there, would be happy to hear more perspectives.

Would have been a better meme if they coloured in Northern Ireland.

Then you'll be familiar with how there have been 43 surveys on the subject in the last 18 years and in all of them Northern Ireland voted against reunification.

Like it's a complicated issue dating back 500 years, but it's not like the people haven't been given a voice on the subject. There's a reason why it's been a permanent civil war up until Good Friday.

Up the RA

That's 2x 20%

I really have no skin in the game except that I volunteer for a charity promoting artistic works of Celtic origin but I am not myself personally involved in Irish politics.

Came to the comments to see if that was the joke.

Okay to be fair this one surprised even me...

Bro got confused, his instructions didn't cover this.

They did color it in. They colored it the same as the rest of England

And Scotland. And Wales. Ireland isn't the only country to be colonised.

Tiocfaidh ár lá.

Technically Scotland colonized England.

“26 + 6” in Cyrillic is “26 + 6”

Sure, but what is it in Arabian Numerals?

Stuff like that shouldn't be taught in western schools 😤

/s

How so? The Stewarts?

The key difference is there's a mechanism under the Good Friday Agreement by which reunification can occur, there has been for nearly 30 years, it requires the consent of the population.

At the time of partition what is now NI wanted to remain part of the UK and while this was colonised by England 400 odd years prior at some point it's probably good to take the people's opinion into account. The demographics have now shifted but repeated surveys have not indicated a sufficient change in what the population as a whole want to trigger a border poll.

There's more to consider here than historical ideals too, like actual practical aspects of any reunification - more than 25% of the NI population are employed directly by the public sector for instance not to mention those on govt contracts, the NHS for all it's faults is a significant factor for a lot of people, what benefits are available.

What does this mean?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiocfaidh_ár_lá

Finally. A straight answer. Thank you.

And Scotland. And Wales.

I'll spot you Wales. Scotland has historically been 100% along for the ride.

FWIW, this image is about Gerogia and how Russia has occupied 20% of it since 2008. They're still pretty pissed about it.

But what about a gay answer?

Thank you for sharing this link.

Awa' and shite.

13-1600s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Scottish_Wars

1300s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wars_of_Scottish_Independence

1400s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_invasion_of_Scotland_(1482)

1500s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rough_Wooing

1600s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Scottish_war_(1650–1652)

1700s:

In Scotland, the Duke of Queensberry was largely responsible for the successful passage of the Union act by the Parliament of Scotland. In Scotland, he was greeted by stones and eggs but in England he was cheered for his action.[51] He had personally received around half of the funding awarded by the Westminster Treasury.[citation needed] In April 1707, he travelled to London to attend celebrations at the royal court, and was greeted by groups of noblemen and gentry lined along the road. From Barnet, the route was lined with crowds of cheering people, and once he reached London a huge crowd had formed. On 17 April, the Duke was gratefully received by the Queen at Kensington Palace and the Acts came into effect on 1 May 1707.[51] A day of thanksgiving was declared in England and Ireland but not in Scotland, where the bells of St Giles rang out the tune of "why should I be so sad on my wedding day".[52]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acts_of_Union_1707

The Parliament met until "prorogued sine die" following months of intense debate, with 110 voting in favour for the treaty to 67 against. It is notable that 123 of the 300 members of Parliament were missing from one of the most controversial votes of the age.

After the negotiations ended on 22 July 1706, separate acts of parliament were drafted by both parliaments to implement the agreed Articles of Union. The Scots proponents of union believed that failure to agree to the Articles would result in the imposition of a union under less favourable terms, and English troops were stationed just south of the Scottish border and also in northern Ireland as an "encouragement". Months of fierce debate in both capital cities and throughout both kingdoms followed. In Scotland, the debate on occasion dissolved into civil disorder, most notably involving the notorious "Edinburgh Mob",[13] which threatened "Destruction to all the Promoters of the Union".[14]

As the Parliament of Scotland was deliberating on 22 October 1706, the session had to be suspended "because the mob was threatening to break in";[15] although this did not ultimately occur, they subsequently "attacked the house of Sir Patrick Johnston, a commissioner for union and former Lord Provost of Edinburgh."[15] "Troops were brought into the city with orders to shoot if necessary, and several regiments were placed at Queensberry's disposal on the Scottish border and in Ireland in the event of trouble."[16] The prospect of a union of the kingdoms was deeply unpopular among the Scottish population at large, and talk of an uprising was widespread.[17] However, the treaty was signed and the documents were rushed south with a large military escort. Andrew Fletcher, a prominent Scottish patriot, argued that the ratification of the treaty would see Scotland "more like a conquered province".[18]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Union

16-1800s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobitism

1800s to today:

The "Home Rule" movement for a Scottish Assembly was first taken up in 1853 by the National Association for the Vindication of Scottish Rights, a body close to the Conservative Party. A key element in this movement was the comparison with Ireland. The original movement broadened its political appeal and soon began to receive Liberal Party backing.[13][failed verification] In 1885, the post of Secretary for Scotland and the Scottish Office were re-established to promote Scotland's interests and express its concerns to the UK Parliament.

A Scottish Home Rule bill was first presented to Parliament in 1913, but its progress was soon ended as Parliament focused on emergency measures necessitated by the First World War.[15]

The Scottish Covenant was a petition to the UK Government asking for home rule. It was first proposed in 1930 by John MacCormick and formally written in 1949. The petition "was eventually signed by two million people"[17] (the population of Scotland was recorded as 5,100,000 in the 1951 UK Census[18]). The covenant was ignored by the main political parties.[17] In 1950 the Stone of Destiny was removed from Westminster Abbey by a group of Scottish nationalist students.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_independence

1970s:

A post-legislative referendum was held in Scotland in 1979 to decide whether there was sufficient support among the Scottish electorate for a Scottish Assembly proposed in the Scotland Act 1978. This was an act to create a devolved deliberative assembly for Scotland. A majority (51.6%) of voters supported the proposal, but an amendment to the Act stipulated that it would be repealed if less than 40% of the total electorate voted in favour. As there was a turnout of 64% the "Yes" vote represented only 32.9% of the registered electorate, and the act was subsequently repealed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Scottish_devolution_referendum

2010s:

A referendum on Scottish independence from the United Kingdom was held in Scotland on 18 September 2014.[1] The referendum question was "Should Scotland be an independent country?", which voters answered with "Yes" or "No".[2] The "No" side won with 2,001,926 (55.3%) voting against independence and 1,617,989 (44.7%) voting in favour. The turnout of 84.6% was the highest recorded for an election or referendum in the United Kingdom since the January 1910 general election, which was held before the introduction of universal suffrage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Scottish_independence_referendum

2007 Scottish elections:

2011 Scottish elections:

2016 Scottish elections:

2021 Scottish elections:

2026 Scottish elections:

Along for the ride, my arse.

Scotland was a source of fundraising and other types of aid. Former MI5 agent Willie Carlin said: "There were safe houses in Glasgow and Stirling. The ferry [between Scotland and Northern Ireland] was pivotal in getting arms into the north—and anything like checkpoints, or armed police and Army in Scotland would have b******d that all up."

An Irish government memo written by David Donoghue stated: "The commonest contribution of Scots UDA and UVF is to send gelignite. Explosives for the north were mostly shipped in small boats which set out at night from the Scottish coast and made contact at sea with vessels from Ulster ports." Donoghue noted the links between Orange Lodges in Scotland and loyalist paramilitary groups in Northern Ireland and that membership of the Orange Order in Scotland at the time was 80,000, and was concentrated in Glasgow, Lanarkshire and Inverness.

The Northern Ireland Affairs Select Committee noted in its report that "in 1992 it was estimated that Scottish support for the UDA and UVF might amount to £100,000 a year."

What's that got to with the price of a dram?

By that very same argument Ireland itself was "along for the ride" because there were pro union Irish people as well.

80k members raising £100k isn't exactly impressive in a nation of 5.5 million with a GDP of £231 billion.

Also, in 1992, Scotland did not have devolution. It was controlled via Westminster.

Use your heid yi numpty.

By that very same argument Ireland itself was “along for the ride” because there were pro union Irish people as well.

A bitter pill to swallow for some, certainly