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sem
lemmy.blahaj.zone
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-06-09 |
I was hoping it was going to be a "fuck you".
"Get Bent" is how i auto completed it |
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minorkeys
sh.itjust.works
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-04-22 |
Not sure how to parse this comment. The point here is that, as a practical matter, no one's rights are safe unless everybody's rights are safe, and AOC is correct that Democrats are wrong to disengage on trans rights, because it's ultimately abandoning everybody's rights, which is the end of democracy.
I disagree with that stance. Some rights are more safe than others and some are more costly to maintain. The only thing one can say is a ruler who doesn't respect some rights, may not respect others. Tons of rights have been abandoned, those of the poor vs the rich for instance, and it didn't erase all rights. |
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SwingingTheLamp
piefed.zip
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip Joined: 2025-12-27 |
I disagree with that stance. Some rights are more safe than others and some are more costly to maintain. The only thing one can say is a ruler who doesn't respect some rights, may not respect others. Tons of rights have been abandoned, those of the poor vs the rich for instance, and it didn't erase all rights.
Not all at once, of course. But, reading the news, it sure looks to me like the erasure is proceeding apace. |
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minorkeys
sh.itjust.works
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-04-22 |
Not all at once, of course. But, reading the news, it sure looks to me like the erasure is proceeding apace.
But at a pace, over time, in steps. Failing to stop the first step doesn't mean failing to stop all of them. This is a battle, not a polite discourse. They are rounding up immigrants and putting them in camps, revoking their rights. The first step wasn't even trans and all rights are not gone because of it. |
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freely1333
reddthat.com
freely1333@reddthat.com Joined: 2025-01-31 |
I don’t want them “defending trans rights” though. I want them enforcing the protection of trans rights through legislative action and enforcement of those laws. “Defending trans rights” is when Republicans go on the offensive about transgender issues so we have to go from being on the offensive on issues like affordability, healthcare and a strong working class to “defending” trans rights. Loo...
What is the offensive for trans rights though l? Like what needs to be codified into law that is not? |
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DrivebyHaiku
lemmy.ca
DrivebyHaiku@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-02-17 |
What is the offensive for trans rights though l? Like what needs to be codified into law that is not?
Off the top of the dome
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SwingingTheLamp
piefed.zip
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip Joined: 2025-12-27 |
But at a pace, over time, in steps. Failing to stop the first step doesn't mean failing to stop all of them. This is a battle, not a polite discourse. They are rounding up immigrants and putting them in camps, revoking their rights. The first step wasn't even trans and all rights are not gone because of it.
As you point out, the fascists are rounding up immigrants into concentration camps. We keep losing rights by the week. And it didn't start with trans people? Then why did it get as far as them? So far, we have failed to stop any step in the process. It's understandable, because when anybody's rights are contingent rather than inalienable, we can always rationalize why it's okay to abandon the next group. |
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minorkeys
sh.itjust.works
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-04-22 |
As you point out, the fascists are rounding up immigrants into concentration camps. We keep losing rights by the week. And it didn't start with trans people? Then why did it get as far as them? So far, we have failed to stop any step in the process. It's understandable, because when anybody's rights are contingent rather than inalienable, we can always rationalize why it's okay to abandon the n...
Why did it get this far? Because adequate opposition to the fascist takeover does not exist yet, if it ever forms. Fascism will keep moving through undesired and opposition groups until someone forms effective opposition. It isn't a lack of will or concern, it's a lack of power. Progressives have no power in government right now, the courts are complicit with the takeover, the executive, legislative and judicial are all complicit, numerous billionaires are in on it, even foreign geopolitical heavyweights like Vladimir Putin has his hands in how the US government runs and what it does. What's happening now may require people to upend their lives and discard their life plans to stop it. They are not ready to do that, or they would have. They may not be capable of doing what is necessary, they may never be. American is in a horrific state across the board. |
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CultLeader4Hire
lemmy.world
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-03-28 |
Proud to have voted (fuck) no on an initiative today to “ban children who were born male from playing girls sports” because I live in a (sane) state that allows people to |
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abc
suppo.fi
abc@suppo.fi Joined: 2026-05-28 |
There is a difference between politics that's aimed at getting elected and politics aimed at improving things. You can absolutely throw trans people under the bus (so to speak) before the elections and then after winning the elections use your power to improve their position. You don't have to be blatant about it. You don't have to say "fuck them", just answer those questions quickly and shift focus to the things people care about. Don't be weird. |
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lulungomeena_burbclave
lemmy.dbzer0.com
lulungomeena_burbclave@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-05 |
Every day more nazi things are happening. everyday. I feel like im going insane. 20 years ago, if you said "the Tvs and phones are all listening to us" youd be thrown in the grippy sock hotel. But today, it is truth, and each day, our low trust society grows. I cant even leave the house without eyeing some people up wondering if theyre a fucking nazi or not. I cant trust a man who dont have a b...
And even then, goatees are somehow worse. |
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freely1333
reddthat.com
freely1333@reddthat.com Joined: 2025-01-31 |
Off the top of the dome Creating a sensible universal policy that creates standardized guidelines on what medical requirements allow prisoners to be housed in the prison matching their sex. At present you can be fully physically transitioned with a vagina, fully sterile from having ones testicles removed and on feminizing horomones and still be forced to be housed in mens prisons creating the c...
Honestly very solid list. |
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lulungomeena_burbclave
lemmy.dbzer0.com
lulungomeena_burbclave@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-05 |
I suspect that the majority of voters would prefer a policy of tolerance over the Republican party's performative cruelty, but "we should treat these harmless eccentrics with basic human dignity" is one thing while transgender participation in sports or permanent procedures done on children are another.
Everything that follows "but" is trying to frame republican performative cruelty as reasonable. |
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Mommy Longarms
sh.itjust.works
OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-07-19 |
There is a difference between politics that's aimed at getting elected and politics aimed at improving things. You can absolutely throw trans people under the bus (so to speak) before the elections and then after winning the elections use your power to improve their position. You don't have to be blatant about it. You don't have to say "fuck them", just answer those questions quickly and shift ...
Unfortunately, when they do get into office they barely use their power to do anything, let alone help the trans community. |
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bonesawmcl
lemmy.world
bonesawmcl@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-03 |
I was hoping it was going to be a "fuck you".
Or "fuck off" alternatively |
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captainlezbian
lemmy.world
captainlezbian@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-29 |
I constantly rail against the "Both sides" thing because, well, both side are NOT the same. Even establishment Dems are radically different than Republicans. However. I am also firmly of the opinion that establishment Dems are corrupted and taking money from our oligarchs, and that they try to use things like "but we have to compromise and not scare off the centrists" as a smokescreen for their...
This could be a temporary swing back, or the left wing version of thr tea party |
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the_crotch
sh.itjust.works
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-03-07 |
I constantly rail against the "Both sides" thing because, well, both side are NOT the same. Even establishment Dems are radically different than Republicans. However. I am also firmly of the opinion that establishment Dems are corrupted and taking money from our oligarchs, and that they try to use things like "but we have to compromise and not scare off the centrists" as a smokescreen for their...
I've never seen anyone say they're the same. I have seen a lot of people being accused of "both sides"ing if they dare to criticize the Democrats. Two things can be bad in different ways. Losing a finger and losing a leg aren't the same. I don't want to lose either. |
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LemmySuxNow
reddthat.com
LemmySuxNow@reddthat.com Joined: 2026-09-01 |
Dems have to keep a few AOCs or Bernies around or they'd lose what little credit they have. |
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lightnsfw
reddthat.com
lightnsfw@reddthat.com Joined: 2023-08-15 |
I don’t want them “defending trans rights” though. I want them enforcing the protection of trans rights through legislative action and enforcement of those laws. “Defending trans rights” is when Republicans go on the offensive about transgender issues so we have to go from being on the offensive on issues like affordability, healthcare and a strong working class to “defending” trans rights. Loo...
I don't want to discount trans issues but also I feel like engaging the republicans with anything more than a "why are you talking about this when people can't afford anything you stupid fucks?" is a waste of time. Even if every trans person was as evil as they say they are there are far bigger problems to focus on. Like why do we need fucking legislation to dictate how trans people are medically treated or if they can play sports? Leave that to the doctors and sports organizations to determine. There should be protections against discrimination and if they're not already included in those they should be, but other than that I can't really think of anything that requires legislation. It pisses me off so much every time I hear one of those ads from these idiots. |
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lennybird
lemmy.world
lennybird@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-01 |
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