I'm sick of these stereotypes. Joke's on you, I write everything in vim.

Why would you add the /s? We got so much more info from a misunderstanding!

I use emacs, but really, I don't program in PHP so there's that.

I always have this at the back of my mind

FrankenPHP is now part of the PHP Foundation's work though...

FrankenPHP is now part of the PHP Foundation's work though...

70% of the internet? No. The web? Yes, maybe. These are not the same thing.

Right but that's a pointless side discussion. English has fucked up grammar and spelling but it's a major global language. Cope?

like a normal person

Well we might disagree on whether using Windows in 2026 is normal...

I see your point, but we shouldn't allow corporate interests with comedic amount of economic capital to simply take over an entire project through what basically is ye olde EEE tactics.

Just let it die

Because Facebook at the time wasn't openly evil and social medias in general were of a fraction of what they are today,.

They contributed to react and made it one of the major language for frontend.

Are you actually though? Because if you were actually wondering this, it wouldn't take a genius to figure out that you can very easily stop wondering by googling something along the lines of "what websites were downed on account of the recent php vulnerability". But you clearly haven't. So why the fuck are you even in this conversation?

It is called personal homepage so it makes sense there is only one person.

https://web.archive.org/save/www.reuters.com/technology/php-foundation-under-funded-with-one-full-time-staff-member-director-says-2026-10-23/

You are awesome. Thank you.

So a company with 1 developer has a director, interesting.

'1 staff member', for accuracies sake 😉

No one reads.
Interesting.

It's for work, it's not up to me.

You do not want to see how the sausage gets made

Confidently wrong answers generate all the best facts in response

Because it wasn't php proper, it was an interpreter for PHP and Hack (their own language), and since 2019 they cut off PHP anyway

Also it's mostly because the vast majority of those "70% of websites" that use PHP are wordpress installs, and wordpress never switched to the HHVM.

Hard to read when it’s paywalled

You then conveniently ignore the point that they made, which is that, by volume, there are more sites, but by traffic and load, definitely not.

Oh no! If only there were easy ways around paywalls?

https://archive.is/iRxVy

There's a whole ass XKCD someone's no doubt posted somewhere in this thread....

I don't think she's actually a developer, from what I read.

Indeed. Guess what primarily differentiates most programming languages? Their concepts.

Not "conveniently". Intentionally. Because the ridiculousness of that point had already been thoroughly dismantled by another reply.

The usage of PHP in enterprise appliances is actually pretty wild - many firewalls, load balancers etc are using PHP for management plane activities. There is a lot out there outside of userland, and those are the appliances most vulnerable in my opinion. A compromised firewall is worse than a compromised website.

Honestly, that pillar looks strong. What is the other side wood and it’s concrete. Also, bad design with just two pillars, gotta build it like an ancient Parthenon.