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BBC edits out pride pins on University Challenge in ‘Orwellian’ move
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gwl [he/him] lemmy.blahaj.zone gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#52 · Quote Reply

Fair enough. Then genders are a social construct based on biological features that do exist. While "human races" are a social construct absolutely not based on the biological concept of races.

Even that is too simplistic, intersex people do exist, where there's biological traits assigned with both genders in one person, from birth

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gwl [he/him] lemmy.blahaj.zone gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#53 · Quote Reply

You don't. You make them defend why it's divisive and why it's a political statement. You don't engage them. Make them engage you.

You go Louis Theroux on them, instead of answering questions, you keep asking them questions until they get stuck and are forced to actually think for once rather than repeat their scripts

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gwl [he/him] lemmy.blahaj.zone gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#54 · (edited) Quote Reply

The UK should've stayed a republic during the Cromwell times. The British monarchy will fall, I'll tell ya.

Well, Cromwell the issue was that it was an extremist fascist coup by a religious extremist

He literally banned parties, and advocated that instead everyone must go to church and make good with god

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Jiral lemmy.world Jiral@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-06
#55 · Quote Reply

Even that is too simplistic, intersex people do exist, where there's biological traits assigned with both genders in one person, from birth

Yes, so what?

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zorflieg lemmy.world zorflieg@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-23
#56 · Quote Reply

Apples & Pears King Trump fell up the stairs Prime Ministers change chairs Whilst the Epstein Files flair like hemorrhoids on the derriere of whatever King is over there. Meanwhile, The united states awaits their newest press secretary The results could vary but I doubt it'll be anything that Trump doesn't want to Marry, or contrary.

Did you intentionally rap just now?

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gwl [he/him] lemmy.blahaj.zone gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-10-16
#57 · Quote Reply

Yes, so what?

And why do you think they don't matter?

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Simon_Shitewood lemmy.ml Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-04-19
#58 · Quote Reply

Do they also edit out crosses and stars of david?

Can't wait to see them edit out all the poppies for remembrance day

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melsaskca lemmy.ca melsaskca@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-09
#59 · Quote Reply

Sadly, this supports trump's claim.

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captainlezbian lemmy.world captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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#60 · (edited) Quote Reply

No they literally don't. You're thinking of Sexes. Sex - DNA Gender - Social Construction that ties stereotypes to things that there's no connection to

Biological sex is a large cluster of traits with bimodal distributions where typically the traits are somewhat close to each other on their curves.

You still manage to get situations like my ex's mom getting karotyped as XY despite having given birth multiple times

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muusemuuse sh.itjust.works muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-25
#61 · Quote Reply

So they record people, alter the recording, and televise the alterned version, without telling the audience about the change. The show isn’t fiction. How’s this not fraud?

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muusemuuse sh.itjust.works muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-25
#62 · (edited) Quote Reply

I disagree with the last one as "Races" aren't simply a thing to begin with, while genders and sexusal orientations to exist, even if they are complicated.

Yes and no. There are demonstrable differences between races aside from appearance, like medical conditions and financial and social pressures, but they are not so significant as to consider each group a totally different species. And, unlike dog breeds, these differences were not created, they occurred naturally. So races are in fact a thing just as much as genders and sexual orientations are. Pretending differences don’t exist is an irresponsible shortcut. The responsible thought process is more “differences exist, but do not warrant better or worse treatment”

It’s a lesson most children have learned by middle school. Some people are black.

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muusemuuse sh.itjust.works muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-25
#63 · (edited) Quote Reply

The pride flag is being framed more and more as some kind of big and divisive political statement, while it shouldn't be... But how do we respond to that? How does one defend against such framing?

It’s political. That’s not the problem. The problem is people saying “politics are unpleasant so we should never discuss them. It’s much more pleasant to just not participate in political discussion. You disagree with me on something? Well that’s now political and it’s rude for you not to shut up about it and just let me have my way. “

Don’t concern yourself with wether something is considered political. Focus on why political discussion is taboo. That’s the real danger.

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gwl [he/him] lemmy.blahaj.zone gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#64 · Quote Reply

Biological sex is a large cluster of traits with bimodal distributions where typically the traits are somewhat close to each other on their curves. You still manage to get situations like my ex's mom getting karotyped as XY despite having given birth multiple times

Yeah good point, I was oversimplifying

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iuminou lemmy.dbzer0.com thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-09-12
#65 · Quote Reply

Not really. Genders do exist in biology. They may not always be clear cut (and one animal might have also both genders at the same time) but they most certainly do exist and are the foundation for sexual reproduction which is very much a thing, next to asexual reproduction. Human races are not.

this claim is only in any way excusable if youre not a native english speaker

you are describing "sexes"

sadly some languages (such as Polish) do not distinguish

on the other hand, if you are aware of this distinction and are making this claim despite that, this is a horrifying take

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iuminou lemmy.dbzer0.com thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#66 · Quote Reply

You go Louis Theroux on them, instead of answering questions, you keep asking them questions until they get stuck and are forced to actually think for once rather than repeat their scripts

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force logic

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likebudda reddthat.com likebudda@reddthat.com
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#67 · Quote Reply

Yes and no. There are demonstrable differences between races aside from appearance, like medical conditions and financial and social pressures, but they are not so significant as to consider each group a totally different species. And, unlike dog breeds, these differences were not created, they occurred naturally. So races are in fact a thing just as much as genders and sexual orientations are....

If you replace "race" with "caste" in your reply it would still make sense but you would see how silly you are being.

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iuminou lemmy.dbzer0.com thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#68 · Quote Reply

Mmm... monke.

🍌

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tangosox lemmy.world tangosox@lemmy.world
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#69 · Quote Reply

Not really. Genders do exist in biology. They may not always be clear cut (and one animal might have also both genders at the same time) but they most certainly do exist and are the foundation for sexual reproduction which is very much a thing, next to asexual reproduction. Human races are not.

I have a psychology degree, and I'm back in school pursuing a nursing degree, so I'm currently retaking human development. Both when I originally studied it about 12 years ago and today, we distinguished biological sex from gender and its social and psychological components.

Biological sex is absolutely real, but it isn't synonymous with gender. Biological sex concerns reproductive anatomy, chromosomes, hormones, and other biological characteristics. Gender also involves identity, social roles, and cultural expectations.

Children begin learning gender roles and stereotypes through socialization in infancy. According to gender schema theory, by around age three, most children can label their own gender. Around four, they develop gender stability, understanding that boys generally grow into men and girls into women. By around six, they develop gender constancy, understanding that changing clothing, hairstyles, or activities doesn't necessarily change someone's gender.

Interestingly, children tend to enforce gender stereotypes most rigidly around ages five to six. By seven or eight, they generally become more flexible and accepting of peers who don't conform to traditional gender expectations.

So yes, biological sex exists and is relevant to sexual reproduction. But that doesn't mean the social roles, expectations, and identities associated with sex are themselves biological facts.

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iuminou lemmy.dbzer0.com thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#70 · Quote Reply

death to the british establishment

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gwl [he/him] lemmy.blahaj.zone gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#71 · Quote Reply

exhaust corrupted cache force cache miss force logic

And why is it you think that?

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luna :trans_flag: gebastel norden.social gebastel@norden.social
Joined: 2026-09-01
#72 · Quote Reply

Or in the case of the pride flag, make them explain why it's a bad thing? Which is when they'll say it's being forced upon them, and the woke agenda is pushed down everyone's throat and whatever. Which is also very hard to defend against... That is, I myself find it difficult to find something to say.

@toothpaste_sandwich @squirrel @CosmicTurtle0 @StabbingSky I think you could tell them it is part of your free opinion stating (in german called "Freie Meinungsäußerung" which means you are allowed to say anything as long as it isn't hate or damaging someones repututation.). And the core idea of "being forced on us" is wrong. Shure there are things some or most people do like misbehaving while driving cars, filming everything or smoking when it annoys everybody else. But wearing a pride flag1/2

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luna :trans_flag: gebastel norden.social gebastel@norden.social
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#73 · (edited) Quote Reply

@toothpaste_sandwich @squirrel @CosmicTurtle0 @StabbingSky I think you could tell them it is part of your free opinion stating (in german called "Freie Meinungsäußerung" which means you are allowed to say anything as long as it isn't hate or damaging someones repututation.). And the core idea of "being forced on us" is wrong. Shure there are things some or most people do like misbehaving while ...

@toothpaste_sandwich @squirrel @CosmicTurtle0 @StabbingSky 2/2 doesn't do harm when i see it and is no symbol of hate. The "forced on us" argument is ridiculous, but the feeling of hate these people feel is real but forced on them by fascist narratives

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Of the Air (cele/celes) lemmy.blahaj.zone oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-07-20
#74 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yes and no. There are demonstrable differences between races aside from appearance, like medical conditions and financial and social pressures, but they are not so significant as to consider each group a totally different species. And, unlike dog breeds, these differences were not created, they occurred naturally. So races are in fact a thing just as much as genders and sexual orientations are....

And, unlike dog breeds, these differences were not created, they occurred naturally.

S.A., colonisation

Are you sure about that considering how much europe and the rest of the 'west' has raped, colonised, deforested, chemicaled, virused, and razed its way through the world?

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