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Two University of Leicester students speak out over ‘absurd’ and ‘Orwellian’ decision by the BBC and ITV Studios to edit out pride pins worn on University Challenge

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Amputret lemmy.dbzer0.com Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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My hatred for the BBC grows with each passing day. I could understand (using their twisted logic) if they were trans pride pins, given their BBC’s status as TERF island enablers, but they were a progress pride and bisexual flag.

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brem lemmy.world brem@lemmy.world
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#3 · Quote Reply

Apples & Pears

King Trump fell up the stairs

Prime Ministers change chairs

Whilst the Epstein Files flair like hemorrhoids on the derriere of whatever King is over there.

Meanwhile, The united states awaits their newest press secretary

The results could vary but I doubt it'll be anything that Trump doesn't want to Marry, or contrary.

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sem lemmy.blahaj.zone sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#4 · Quote Reply

We need jungle I'm afraid

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Setiyeti93 lemmy.ca Setiyeti93@lemmy.ca
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"what has the BBC ever done for me"

It's part of their campaign to try and beg people not to abandon the licence fee.

So, what has the BBC done for me?

Erased my culture. There.

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Kusarihime1 lemmy.blahaj.zone Kusarihime1@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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"what has the BBC ever done for me" It's part of their campaign to try and beg people not to abandon the licence fee. So, what has the BBC done for me? Erased my culture. There.

I hate those ads with a burning passion! What has the BBC ever done?

Provided transphobes with a platform.
Downplayed Israel's genocide.
Provided Jimmy Savile with victims.
I could go on...

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toothpaste_sandwich thebrainbin.org toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org
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The pride flag is being framed more and more as some kind of big and divisive political statement, while it shouldn't be... But how do we respond to that? How does one defend against such framing?

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CosmicTurtle0 [he/him] lemmy.dbzer0.com CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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The pride flag is being framed more and more as some kind of big and divisive political statement, while it shouldn't be... But how do we respond to that? How does one defend against such framing?

You don't. You make them defend why it's divisive and why it's a political statement.

You don't engage them. Make them engage you.

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Akasazh lemmy.world Akasazh@lemmy.world
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"what has the BBC ever done for me" It's part of their campaign to try and beg people not to abandon the licence fee. So, what has the BBC done for me? Erased my culture. There.

The same bbc that once aired Monty python.

SMH

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Marcela (she/her) lemmy.blahaj.zone marcela@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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The pride flag is being framed more and more as some kind of big and divisive political statement, while it shouldn't be... But how do we respond to that? How does one defend against such framing?

They are a genocidal org. They don't care.

How does one defend against such framing?

Real life local activism.

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Apples & Pears King Trump fell up the stairs Prime Ministers change chairs Whilst the Epstein Files flair like hemorrhoids on the derriere of whatever King is over there. Meanwhile, The united states awaits their newest press secretary The results could vary but I doubt it'll be anything that Trump doesn't want to Marry, or contrary.

and let's not forget "sex with underage girls"

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brem lemmy.world brem@lemmy.world
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#12 · Quote Reply

and let's not forget "sex with underage girls"

.. also, boys on the side

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StabbingSky lemmy.zip StabbingSky@lemmy.zip
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You don't. You make them defend why it's divisive and why it's a political statement. You don't engage them. Make them engage you.

Same way you deal with racist/sexist jokes. Make them explain what's funny.

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Artisian lemmy.world Artisian@lemmy.world
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The pride flag is being framed more and more as some kind of big and divisive political statement, while it shouldn't be... But how do we respond to that? How does one defend against such framing?

Continue to celebrate it!

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UnequalExchange lemmy.world UnequalExchange@lemmy.world
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We need jungle I'm afraid

return to monke?

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#17 · Quote Reply

Labour and Reform: destroy BBC, force them to provide cover for the establishment and then privatise it!

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bold_omi lemmy.today bold_omi@lemmy.today
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#18 · Quote Reply

return to monke?

Mmm... monke.

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DylanMc6 [any, any] lemmy.dbzer0.com DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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The UK should've stayed a republic during the Cromwell times. The British monarchy will fall, I'll tell ya.

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My hatred for the BBC grows with each passing day. I could understand (using their twisted logic) if they were trans pride pins, given their BBC’s status as TERF island enablers, but they were a progress pride and bisexual flag.

They still haven't forgotten they lost that culture war in their eyes. After this "war on trans" they are hoping to redo the "war on gays" again

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The BBC is run by dogshit humans.

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#22 · Quote Reply

The pride flag is being framed more and more as some kind of big and divisive political statement, while it shouldn't be... But how do we respond to that? How does one defend against such framing?

It represents deviation from the insisted "norm" which defies what is told to you is the "correct" order and they will insist that that is violence to cover the actual violence they use to keep people in line.

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Same way you deal with racist/sexist jokes. Make them explain what's funny.

Or in the case of the pride flag, make them explain why it's a bad thing? Which is when they'll say it's being forced upon them, and the woke agenda is pushed down everyone's throat and whatever.

Which is also very hard to defend against... That is, I myself find it difficult to find something to say.

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CumbrianCucumber lemmy.world CumbrianCucumber@lemmy.world
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The same bbc that once aired Monty python. SMH

I swear the BBC used to have the best comedies in the world. Monty Python, Only Fools and Horses, Fawlty Towers, BlackAdder, Red Dwarf, I could go on and on and on.

I feel like they haven't really done anything drastically funny since The Mighty Boosh, which was over 20 years ago now. Inside Number 9 was alright, but gave up its comedic undertone after the first series or so. Red Dwarf has moved to Dave, The Goes Wrong Show was good too, but that was an adapted stage show. Technically The Mighty Boosh started as a stage show too, have the BBC not done any good original adult comedies since the 90s?

I know this is a facetious tangent given everything else the BBC do, but I'm honestly surprised how little anyone seems to notice or care that arguably the biggest entertainment network in the world can't even entertain its audience any more

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LePoisson lemmy.world LePoisson@lemmy.world
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Or in the case of the pride flag, make them explain why it's a bad thing? Which is when they'll say it's being forced upon them, and the woke agenda is pushed down everyone's throat and whatever. Which is also very hard to defend against... That is, I myself find it difficult to find something to say.

It's just like ... Not though?

If they just straight up live in an alternate reality world where seeing a flag and leaving people alone to live their lives is equivalent to pushing the "woke agenda" there isn't much you can do.

You can ask how it's being forced on them but honestly they just are cowards with a victim complex who want to feel like they're being persecuted as they actually are insulated from the worst shit and are benefiting the most from our society.

So ... Yeah anyone that says woke stuff is being shoved down their throats is a moron tbh. I've had Mormons come knock on my door, never a queer person trying to convert me to ... The horrible idea of equality before the eyes of the law?

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Akasazh lemmy.world Akasazh@lemmy.world
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I swear the BBC used to have the best comedies in the world. Monty Python, Only Fools and Horses, Fawlty Towers, BlackAdder, Red Dwarf, I could go on and on and on. I feel like they haven't really done anything drastically funny since The Mighty Boosh, which was over 20 years ago now. Inside Number 9 was alright, but gave up its comedic undertone after the first series or so. Red Dwarf has move...

There is still some masterful comedy, like Taskmaster and various panel shows.

However the embraceing of the modern, counter culture and edgy things has gone down the drain as directors have boomerified and have things to lose.

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#27 · Quote Reply

i can not unsee "The Young Ones" University Challenge skit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEuk8PNjm8E

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WillowWisp lemmy.blahaj.zone WillowWisp@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#28 · Quote Reply

There is still some masterful comedy, like Taskmaster and various panel shows. However the embraceing of the modern, counter culture and edgy things has gone down the drain as directors have boomerified and have things to lose.

Taskmaster is Channel 4, and started life on Dave. BBC has nothing to do with it.

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It's just like ... Not though? If they just straight up live in an alternate reality world where seeing a flag and leaving people alone to live their lives is equivalent to pushing the "woke agenda" there isn't much you can do. You can ask how it's being forced on them but honestly they just are cowards with a victim complex who want to feel like they're being persecuted as they actually are in...

Yes, it's exhausting... In any case I want to hang up a pride flag outside my home soon, to at least show some solidarity. I'm afraid it might lead to vandalism, but we'll see, I guess.

The comparison with Mormons is a good one. We thankfully don't have those here, but we do have Jehovah's creeps.

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LePoisson lemmy.world LePoisson@lemmy.world
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Yes, it's exhausting... In any case I want to hang up a pride flag outside my home soon, to at least show some solidarity. I'm afraid it might lead to vandalism, but we'll see, I guess. The comparison with Mormons is a good one. We thankfully don't have those here, but we do have Jehovah's creeps.

Not sure between the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses which of them is worse. They both share a lot of commonality. In that both were created by some dude to excuse their behavior and control the community (in my opinion). Obviously deeper than that and plenty of differences but both of them I find have pretty dubious history.

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toothpaste_sandwich thebrainbin.org toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org
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Not sure between the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses which of them is worse. They both share a lot of commonality. In that both were created by some dude to excuse their behavior and control the community (in my opinion). Obviously deeper than that and plenty of differences but both of them I find have pretty dubious history.

Definitely with you there. But then all religions are cults.

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#32 · Quote Reply

Meanwhile man award freedom of the beeb for dressing as giant poppy.

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Dultas lemmy.world Dultas@lemmy.world
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#33 · Quote Reply

I swear the BBC used to have the best comedies in the world. Monty Python, Only Fools and Horses, Fawlty Towers, BlackAdder, Red Dwarf, I could go on and on and on. I feel like they haven't really done anything drastically funny since The Mighty Boosh, which was over 20 years ago now. Inside Number 9 was alright, but gave up its comedic undertone after the first series or so. Red Dwarf has move...

The Thick of It? I would say the office but that's 25ish at this point.

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#34 · (edited) Quote Reply

The UK should've stayed a republic during the Cromwell times. The British monarchy will fall, I'll tell ya.

I mean, after doing a genocide Cromwell declared his son his political heir... I don't disagree but it just never had a chance because British people barely knew what a republic was. They literally just had classical-inspired vibes about it.

No joke, I wrote a paper in college that sourced an Enlightenment era English writer who claimed that the English state was a monarchal republic because the citizens had more rights than the French.

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vaultdweller013 sh.itjust.works vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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I mean, after doing a genocide Cromwell declared his son his political heir... I don't disagree but it just never had a chance because British people barely knew what a republic was. They literally just had classical-inspired vibes about it. No joke, I wrote a paper in college that sourced an Enlightenment era English writer who claimed that the English state was a monarchal republic because th...

As someone who's ancestors were exiled for siding with Cromwell I agree. But also I wish to purge the monarchist filth from Britain.

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Of the Air (cele/celes) lemmy.blahaj.zone oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#36 · Quote Reply

End the BBC.

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𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍 lemmy.world Witchfire@lemmy.world
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#37 · Quote Reply

It's just like ... Not though? If they just straight up live in an alternate reality world where seeing a flag and leaving people alone to live their lives is equivalent to pushing the "woke agenda" there isn't much you can do. You can ask how it's being forced on them but honestly they just are cowards with a victim complex who want to feel like they're being persecuted as they actually are in...

Hi, I'm here to convert you to gay. Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior Freddy Mercury

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𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍 lemmy.world Witchfire@lemmy.world
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#38 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yes, it's exhausting... In any case I want to hang up a pride flag outside my home soon, to at least show some solidarity. I'm afraid it might lead to vandalism, but we'll see, I guess. The comparison with Mormons is a good one. We thankfully don't have those here, but we do have Jehovah's creeps.

Do it, pride flags are very important for us queer folk. They indicate which areas are generally safe and which aren't. The more proudly they're flown, the better. If you do, I recommend using the progress flag (with the triangle bit)

You don't have to be queer yourself to help make queer people feel safe

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#39 · Quote Reply

It isn't only America doing this shit.

Sadly it is beyond one country.

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M137 lemmy.today M137@lemmy.today
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#40 · Quote Reply

There is still some masterful comedy, like Taskmaster and various panel shows. However the embraceing of the modern, counter culture and edgy things has gone down the drain as directors have boomerified and have things to lose.

You seem to have thought "ah, British thing, means it's BBC".

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Jiral lemmy.world Jiral@lemmy.world
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#41 · Quote Reply

I disagree with the last one as "Races" aren't simply a thing to begin with, while genders and sexusal orientations to exist, even if they are complicated.

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A spokesperson for ITV Studios said: “University Challenge is an entertainment quiz show and is made in accordance with the BBC Editorial Guidelines requirements for impartiality.”

If you're impartial between people who just want to live their life and people who want to eradicate them, you're not being impartial.

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#43 · Quote Reply

I disagree with the last one as "Races" aren't simply a thing to begin with, while genders and sexusal orientations to exist, even if they are complicated.

You've probably heard "gender is a social construct" before, so surely you could argue about that, too.

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Jiral lemmy.world Jiral@lemmy.world
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#44 · (edited) Quote Reply

You've probably heard "gender is a social construct" before, so surely you could argue about that, too.

Not really. Genders do exist in biology. They may not always be clear cut (and one animal might have also both genders at the same time) but they most certainly do exist and are the foundation for sexual reproduction which is very much a thing, next to asexual reproduction. Human races are not.

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#45 · Quote Reply

Do they also edit out crosses and stars of david?

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#46 · Quote Reply

Not really. Genders do exist in biology. They may not always be clear cut (and one animal might have also both genders at the same time) but they most certainly do exist and are the foundation for sexual reproduction which is very much a thing, next to asexual reproduction. Human races are not.

no, those are sexes. different thing altogether!

although, tbf, not all languages distinguish between the two...

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Akasazh lemmy.world Akasazh@lemmy.world
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#47 · (edited) Quote Reply

Taskmaster is Channel 4, and started life on Dave. BBC has nothing to do with it.

Ah, in that case I stand corrected. I thought all that was part of the beeb.

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Akasazh lemmy.world Akasazh@lemmy.world
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#48 · Quote Reply

You seem to have thought "ah, British thing, means it's BBC".

Well I go appreciate panel does like this was the news, qi and would I lie to you. Comedy is not entirely dead in the beeb.

But I wasn't aware that channel 4 wasn't part of the main media mogul, so I stand corrected.

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Jiral lemmy.world Jiral@lemmy.world
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#49 · (edited) Quote Reply

no, those are sexes. different thing altogether! although, tbf, not all languages distinguish between the two...

Fair enough. Then genders are a social construct based on biological features that do exist. While "human races" are a social construct absolutely not based on the biological concept of races.

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#50 · (edited) Quote Reply

The BBC has always been propagandistic, though in a generally posh way using framing and cherry picking rather than the in-your-face way of the likes of Fox News.

It's just that it used to be mainly Jingoism (visible when comparing their coverage of International News and the participation of British figures in international gatherings, with that of channels in other countries), some amount of Know Your Place and Look Up To Your Betters, and, of course, Eternal Love For The Royals (or, more broadly, Our Political And Social System Is Perfect).

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gwl [he/him] lemmy.blahaj.zone gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#51 · (edited) Quote Reply

Not really. Genders do exist in biology. They may not always be clear cut (and one animal might have also both genders at the same time) but they most certainly do exist and are the foundation for sexual reproduction which is very much a thing, next to asexual reproduction. Human races are not.

No they literally don't.

You're thinking of Sexes.

  • Sex - DNA
  • Gender - Social Construction that ties stereotypes to things that there's no connection to
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