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Higher prices still mean higher profits for Uber, right?

Companies like Uber frequently charge customers more and try to pocket the difference. They lowball drivers and hope they accept the lower fee.

I wonder if anti monopoly laws would apply to those independent contractors?

Last time I got surge pricing here it was 3x the price and the driver told me he only got a 20%ish increase on his pay, so yeah, uber pockets most of the difference

Its an absolutely garbage service and needs to no longer exist. All food delivery services like this are trash and I refuse to use them. And ridicule/shame everyone that does.

how else are you supposed to deliver food to a friend in a different city/state without telling them?

for some reason, i can’t hate them for this. i mean i never get food delivered like that anyways, so maybe my feelings don’t matter. but obviously things are not easy for under drivers.

This is just unionising

What they are doing probably falls under anti cartell law rather than anti monopoly

where is the boundary between a sufficiently powerful union and a monopoly on labor?

You do realize you could still call a location and ask them to deliver it? God I'm old.

that only works on significantly less funny restaurants

A monopoly on labour is not a thing, because labour is not a resource that is controllable by anyone in that way. (Excepting slavery and feudalism)

a sufficiently broad non-compete can absolutely control labour supply, unless /until it is deemed unlawful

The vast majority of restaurants no longer have their own delivery capacity

And most never did

Uh maybe if you give the guy like 50€ to bother bringing you food after work instead of going straight home, can't imagine they'd do it for much less after a hard day of work?

That’s got to be the most stupid thing a human can do, but at the end of the day, there is a reason why they are uber drivers

1. While it might increase the payout for the drivers, it also increases the price for the one ordering food eventually.
2. if 5 people are doing this, person number 6 will take the job, smirk, and earn money while all the others don’t earn anything at all.
3. things like these are most likely illegal, as what they are forming is a cartel. They are individual contracors, individual legal entities. If they make such deals to increase their price, they will not only all get banned from Uber, they also face charges with fines.

All of that, so that they get €15.63 instead of €15.61

I am very intelligent.

You're a clown.

in germany uber eats has hired exactly zero drivers, they're all sub-subcontractors, which is major bs, and some parties are looking into forced employment for algorithmic workers

(though afaik uber the taxi company actually hires out taxi drivers and owns the cars, operating like a regular taxi company as they try and loosen regulations)

Of course a guy called antianarchist is copy pasting capitalist propaganda generated by a chatbot.

Ah yes, using more than five words in a sentence seems to be already inhumane to you. It is always easy to find excuses.

Jumping Redditor living in a world where capital has all the power and labour is effectively crippled: "what if labour hypothetically somehow goes too far and becomes the real enemy..... Yeah that would be bad.... Best keep things like this just in case"

Wtf where is the thought even come from that you should hate them?

If the system games you, game the system.

you know what is an attempt at monopolizing labour? AI subscriptions, if they did achieve what they claim to be.

The answers to this comment are cringe. Like everybody is insulting you and I have no idea of what their arguments are.

Like, i hate how you represent uber drivers. No they are not that dumb, and it's not because they are dumb that they are uber driver. It has a lot more to do with how the market for peopme with low education is scarse of job. But don't equate education with intelligence.

Now for the rest of your arguments, I'm hoping someone will explain the problem with your reasonning. But alas I think hate only calls hate.

I'm wondering if you removed your intro sentence maybe peoppe would have actual debate?

Love to see collective action like this. We need more of it, everywhere.

There was a local delivery service that charges businesses a flat service fee instead of 70% of the order.

It didn’t survive ofc.

Let me clear this up for you. Workers are people and the hours of their lives are not a commodity like bushels of wheat.

A democratically-operated “monopoly” on labor would be a democratically-operated society, not a cartel akin to a commodity monopoly.

Learn what collective means.

Yes but in this case neither the delivery drivers, three nor the restaurant, nor the customers win, only Uber wins.

a cartel can be democratic

Listen here you, clowns are a genuine source of joy to young kids. They're full of colour, joy and peak slapstick.

The scientifically accurate term for people like @antianarchist is "fuckwit".

Isn't that price fixing and illegal?

No it's their remuneration for work they are doing, people are allowed to unionize.

This is the internet you’re supposed to hate everything

I don't think that happened since medieval age, if ever

But unionizing hurts the bottom line... Of upper management.

more power to the working class

So do we need a new app?

I can't speak for everyone, but I try to only correct people who seem slightly wrong and will likely consider what I've said. You can't reason someone out of a position into which they were not reasoned.

Yeah its called the restaurants website / phone number and delivery through that has existed since the freaking 80s. Some restaurants web ordering through their website is like 20 % - 30% cheaper in my experience.

But that move isn't on the board for these delivery drivers.

I tried this for a while.... Then the restaurants I was getting from started sending orders with doorDash/uberEats drivers anyways..... And always were much slower and worse service than direct.

I no longer order delivery because they all ended up going that route.

Sorry to hear that. Seems short sighted on their end.

This is the free market at work.

Maybe. Unfortunately the few attempts I've heard of where the company tries to be fairer to all parties causes the company to go bust because it isn't sustainable. So the alternative isn't another app, it's to just not be lazy and go into the restaurant.

Isn't it technically not a free market if pieces of it are colluding?

Not that I think this is a bad thing; a 100% free market is a terrible thing.