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Ubisoft reportedly wasted 3 years turning Beyond Good & Evil 2 into a live-service Fortnite killer, but now it's a single-player-focused game with co-op
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Hal-5700X sh.itjust.works hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works
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supersquirrel lemmy.ca supersquirrel@lemmy.ca
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Ubisoft is an anti-corporation in that it brings together valuable assets into something worth far less than the sum of the parts individually.

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MagicPterodactyl lemmy.ml MagicPterodactyl@lemmy.ml
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#3 · Quote Reply

Ubisoft is allergic to good decisions. At this point it's been a good decade since the last time they made a game that i wanted to play.

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Bonesince1997 lemmy.world Bonesince1997@lemmy.world
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#4 · (edited) Quote Reply

Ubisoft is allergic to good decisions. At this point it's been a good decade since the last time they made a game that i wanted to play.

I think the last one I played from them was a cooperative effort with Nintendo, the Mario + Rabbids games. I only played the first, but did enjoy it; thought it was a solid tactics game. I wanted to play the latest Prince of Persia, the 2D one, but didn't get around to it. Heard good things. But, that's about it for me. I never was a huge fan of their games. They seem to often target mediocrity, with series like Assassin's Creed and Far Cry having way too many entries, with too few bangers, and bargain prices to quickly follow.

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CosmoNova lemmy.world CosmoNova@lemmy.world
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#5 · Quote Reply

Really? I was convinced they cancelled it years ago. Huh.

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zikzak025 lemmy.world zikzak025@lemmy.world
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#6 · Quote Reply

Really? I was convinced they cancelled it years ago. Huh.

They may as well have. If they ever do end up releasing something, it won't be anything like what they promised in the beginning.

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PattyMcB lemmy.world PattyMcB@lemmy.world
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#7 · Quote Reply

Ubisoft continues to insist that Beyond Good & Evil 2 is real game that exists

Ugh... it's literally your job to have good grammar

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Boo! Haunted House! lemmy.world lemmyng@lemmy.world
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#8 · Quote Reply

So that's (one reason) why it's been delayed to hell and back?

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MagicPterodactyl lemmy.ml MagicPterodactyl@lemmy.ml
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#9 · Quote Reply

I think the last one I played from them was a cooperative effort with Nintendo, the Mario + Rabbids games. I only played the first, but did enjoy it; thought it was a solid tactics game. I wanted to play the latest Prince of Persia, the 2D one, but didn't get around to it. Heard good things. But, that's about it for me. I never was a huge fan of their games. They seem to often target mediocrity...

Actually you're right I forgot about Mario + Rabbids which I played at my sister's house 9 years and it seemed ok.

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Hubi feddit.org Hubi@feddit.org
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#10 · Quote Reply

Wait what? I never would've thought this was still in development.

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QueenHawlSera piefed.social QueenHawlSera@piefed.social
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#11 · Quote Reply

Why the fuck would a Beyond Good And Evil sequel be a Fortnite clone?

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Davel23 fedia.io Davel23@fedia.io
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#12 · Quote Reply

Why the fuck would a Beyond Good And Evil sequel be a Fortnite clone?

Because money.

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muhyb programming.dev muhyb@programming.dev
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cheat700000007 lemmy.world cheat700000007@lemmy.world
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#14 · Quote Reply

So that's (one reason) why it's been delayed to hell and back?

Technically it's never been delayed, they never set dates

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ZoteTheMighty lemmy.zip ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-27
#15 · Quote Reply

That is quite literally the stupidest thing you could have done with the franchise.

For that matter, I've always wondered why anyone would invest notably sums of money into Beyond Good and Evil. The first game was fine, but it seems to continue to be one of the great money pits in the gaming industry.

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buddascrayon lemmy.world buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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#16 · Quote Reply

Ubisoft continues to insist that Beyond Good & Evil 2 is real game that exists Ugh... it's literally your job to have good grammar

I don't think you understand the gist of that turn of phrase. The author is using it quite correctly.

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CheesyFox lemmy.sdf.org CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org
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#17 · Quote Reply

at this point, the only question is "What could possibly go right?"

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Tattorack lemmy.world Tattorack@lemmy.world
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Years ago, just as the first teaser dropped, I was an "insider" on the project. The direction they had was pretty clear; single player with some co-op. RPG with robust character creator and classes. Open world with seamless ground-to-space travel, and a single solar system to explore with your pirate ship.

They showed off some early gameplay, their city tech, and their planet generation tech. Then silence.

I'm technically still an "insider", but they just stopped sending updates about 10 years ago.

Now you're telling my they scrapped all of that to make a Fortnite game, then scrapped that to make a 4 player live service game, they scrapped that too and now we're right back where we fucking started at single player with some co-op!?

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Odo lemmy.world Odo@lemmy.world
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#19 · Quote Reply

I don't think you understand the gist of that turn of phrase. The author is using it quite correctly.

I think OP is complaining about the missing "a" before "real", but that's such a minor error it's hard to believe it was worth typing out that message.

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QueenHawlSera piefed.social QueenHawlSera@piefed.social
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#20 · Quote Reply

Because money.

It'd be like making Godfather 2 a stoner comedy.

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stardustpathsofglory lemmy.world stardustpathsofglory@lemmy.world
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#21 · Quote Reply

Why the fuck would a Beyond Good And Evil sequel be a Fortnite clone?

Because pizza is good and cake is good. Lets just imagine how fantastic it would be if they are mixed together.

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Sonotsugipaa lemmy.dbzer0.com Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#22 · Quote Reply

Ubisoft continues to insist that Beyond Good & Evil 2 is real game that exists Ugh... it's literally your job to have good grammar

minor spelling mistake gif

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QueenHawlSera piefed.social QueenHawlSera@piefed.social
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#23 · Quote Reply

Because pizza is good and cake is good. Lets just imagine how fantastic it would be if they are mixed together.

No!

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yermaw sh.itjust.works yermaw@sh.itjust.works
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#24 · Quote Reply

Because pizza is good and cake is good. Lets just imagine how fantastic it would be if they are mixed together.

You just described every single attempt at homemade pizza i ever did

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brsrklf jlai.lu brsrklf@jlai.lu
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#25 · Quote Reply

I think the last one I played from them was a cooperative effort with Nintendo, the Mario + Rabbids games. I only played the first, but did enjoy it; thought it was a solid tactics game. I wanted to play the latest Prince of Persia, the 2D one, but didn't get around to it. Heard good things. But, that's about it for me. I never was a huge fan of their games. They seem to often target mediocrity...

And then the second Mario+Rabbids is another designed-by-committee, unfocused game that adds grinding and busywork to a game that never needed them.

They just have to make all their games converge toward the same mediocre model.

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TankovayaDiviziya lemmy.world TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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#26 · Quote Reply

"This is what the statistics says not what gamers want!" -fucking corporate financebros.

Also, why the hell compete in an overcrowded live service battle royale shooter market? Have corporates not heard of blue ocean strategy?

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brsrklf jlai.lu brsrklf@jlai.lu
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#27 · Quote Reply

They may as well have. If they ever do end up releasing something, it won't be anything like what they promised in the beginning.

What would be the beginning in your reference frame? because they also presented something 10 years after the first game that wasn't fortnite but was still already nothing like a continuation of the first game.

Planet-sized procedural open-world that's mainly oriented for multiplayer, and chronologically a prequel with new characters, despite the fact BG&E ended with a huge mess left to be resolved.
With a weird community artist plan for people who wanted to contribute art for the game.

If I am not mistaken the only "promise" we got before that was a "leaked" cinematic with BG&E characters that they provided zero comment for.

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I_Jedi lemmy.today I_Jedi@lemmy.today
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#28 · Quote Reply

Feels like Duke Nukem Forever.

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jacksilver lemmy.world jacksilver@lemmy.world
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#29 · Quote Reply

I think the last one I played from them was a cooperative effort with Nintendo, the Mario + Rabbids games. I only played the first, but did enjoy it; thought it was a solid tactics game. I wanted to play the latest Prince of Persia, the 2D one, but didn't get around to it. Heard good things. But, that's about it for me. I never was a huge fan of their games. They seem to often target mediocrity...

The Metroidvania Prince of Persia (Lost Crown) is amazing, the rouge lite Prince of Persia is just okay.

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Railcar8095 lemmy.world Railcar8095@lemmy.world
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#30 · Quote Reply

Years ago, just as the first teaser dropped, I was an "insider" on the project. The direction they had was pretty clear; single player with some co-op. RPG with robust character creator and classes. Open world with seamless ground-to-space travel, and a single solar system to explore with your pirate ship. They showed off some early gameplay, their city tech, and their planet generation tech. T...

Seeing how things go, just going back to that point seems the option with more opportunities to succeed. Trying to shoehorn the middle parts will be a mess

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antianarchist sopuli.xyz antianarchist@sopuli.xyz
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#31 · Quote Reply

Ubisoft continues to insist that Beyond Good & Evil 2 is real game that exists Ugh... it's literally your job to have good grammar

Let’s not forget about the gazillion auto correct tools that exists nowadays. But don’t expect too much from video games authors, as 90% of them have no idea how all of that works.

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Noklito lemmy.zip Noklito@lemmy.zip
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#32 · Quote Reply

This game is going to be dogshit if it ever comes out.

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MrScottyTay sh.itjust.works MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works
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#33 · Quote Reply

I think OP is complaining about the missing "a" before "real", but that's such a minor error it's hard to believe it was worth typing out that message.

It's also not really an error, that's historically how headlines are written, because back in the day they only had so much space on the front page of a newspaper or magazine to fit it on. Obviously those grammar rules don't technically matter anymore, but they still follow them. Although it's more so now because link previews and search results can truncate their headline if it's too long still.

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anakin78z lemmy.world anakin78z@lemmy.world
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#34 · Quote Reply

And then the second Mario+Rabbids is another designed-by-committee, unfocused game that adds grinding and busywork to a game that never needed them. They just have to make all their games converge toward the same mediocre model.

The second one was such a disappointment. My son and I had hundreds of hours into the first one. He still plays the first one sometimes. We never got close to finishing the second.

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knuk piefed.ca knuk@piefed.ca
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#35 · Quote Reply

Ubisoft is allergic to good decisions. At this point it's been a good decade since the last time they made a game that i wanted to play.

I worked there for a while. Any time there'd be a viral trend of some sort (like battle royales, nfts), they'd wait about a year then stary a multi year project to jump on the trend. We always knew it was too late to start but we didn't have any say in it. I expect they're probably working on some sort of ai games now that will be ready after the ai bubble pops

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acosmichippo lemmy.world acosmichippo@lemmy.world
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#36 · Quote Reply

It'd be like making Godfather 2 a stoner comedy.

i’d watch it

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Sidyctism II. discuss.tchncs.de Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de
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#37 · Quote Reply

Fort... nite? How would that even work?

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thingsiplay lemmy.ml thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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#38 · Quote Reply

Feels like Duke Nukem Forever.

Beyond Good & Evil Forever

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thingsiplay lemmy.ml thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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#39 · Quote Reply

Why the fuck would a Beyond Good And Evil sequel be a Fortnite clone?

Not a clone of Fortnite, but a Fornite killer. Making a clone would be too easy, it needs to destroy it. Which is basically impossible. I don't know what the gameplay loop and objectives would be, but don't think it was same gameplay of Fortnite (therefore not a clone of it).

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thingsiplay lemmy.ml thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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#40 · Quote Reply

I have to say, it takes some serious creative outside the box thinking, to turn Beyond Good & Evil into a Fortnite killer. That earns my respect. I never would have expected that. Like ever.

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addie feddit.uk addie@feddit.uk
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#41 · Quote Reply

Not a clone of Fortnite, but a Fornite killer. Making a clone would be too easy, it needs to destroy it. Which is basically impossible. I don't know what the gameplay loop and objectives would be, but don't think it was same gameplay of Fortnite (therefore not a clone of it).

If it was just "Fortnite but a bit better", then very few people would play it, as having a lot of people to play against is important and network effects would keep them on Fortnite. (See also every other "X-killer" - Facebook killer, WhatsApp killer, e-Bay killer, etc. A slight improvement will not do.) Also, Fortnite wasn't really the game it is until they cloned PlayerUnknown's BattleGrounds into it, so it needs to be:

  • something with a really compelling gameplay loop that's good with a few people but gets better with more people

  • not a Fortnite clone, nor something that could be introduced into Fortnite as a game mode

Like you say, just a clone will not do. Need some really exciting innovations in gameplay, which is not Ubisoft's thing, to put it kindly.

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Doom lemmy.world Doom@lemmy.world
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#42 · Quote Reply

Honestly. Just don't. The first game was perfect. Don't ruin it with a shitty sequel that tarnishes the original.

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___qwertz___ feddit.org ___qwertz___@feddit.org
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#43 · Quote Reply

Beyond Good & Evil Forever

No, Duke Nukem Forever was developed in 14 years. Beyond Good and Evil 2 was announced 2008, 18 years ago.

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TallonMetroid lemmy.world TallonMetroid@lemmy.world
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#44 · Quote Reply

Fort... nite? How would that even work?

That's the neat part. It doesn't, which is why they apparently wasted three years on this hare-brained idea.

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brucethemoose lemmy.world brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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#45 · Quote Reply

There must be some massive egos and drama involved with keeping BGE2 alive so long.

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thingsiplay lemmy.ml thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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#46 · Quote Reply

No, Duke Nukem Forever was developed in 14 years. Beyond Good and Evil 2 was announced 2008, 18 years ago.

Sure, but announced isn't the same as development time. There are lot of cases where they announce the development of game, but then start it after announcement. And the other time they work on it for years and announce it. I don't think Beyond Good and Evil 2 was developed 18 years.

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Funkt4st1c lemmy.world Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world
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#47 · Quote Reply

The anti fortnite... Remember the original fortnite?

I can only assume that means this will be the least popular game known to man

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RememberTheApollo_ lemmy.world RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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#48 · Quote Reply

C-suite fucks up everything.

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buddascrayon lemmy.world buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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#49 · Quote Reply

I think OP is complaining about the missing "a" before "real", but that's such a minor error it's hard to believe it was worth typing out that message.

Yeah, I literally didn't notice it. LoL 😂

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LostCarcosan lemmy.today LostCarcosan@lemmy.today
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#50 · Quote Reply

Let’s not forget about the gazillion auto correct tools that exists nowadays. But don’t expect too much from video games authors, as 90% of them have no idea how all of that works.

90% of video game authors don't even know how to play games

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theOneTrueSpoon feddit.uk theOneTrueSpoon@feddit.uk
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#51 · Quote Reply

Because pizza is good and cake is good. Lets just imagine how fantastic it would be if they are mixed together.

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