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TotallynotJessica
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PaupersSerenade
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#2 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

Butlerian moment.

We stray closer and closer to 40K with each year ᴖ̈

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alapakala
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#3 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

:sky_blue_verify:

Smugglers: “The cobalt must flow.”

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BeigeAgenda
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#4 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.

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glups
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#5 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

I'll do it for them. Give me an address

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ElcaineVolta
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#6 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

Butlerian moment.

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bashibazouk
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#7 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

The Ix would be fine with it though...

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alapakala
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#8 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

I'll do it for them. Give me an address

:ratsalute:✌️

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saltnotsugar
lemmy.world
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Joined: 2025-06-04
#9 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

We stray closer and closer to 40K with each year ᴖ̈

I overheard some woman on her phone the other day say, “Like Jessie, it’s better to die for the emperor than live for yourself yasssss!” A sign of the horror to come.

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Jayjader
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#10 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

Chani being barely a shade darker than Paul is very sus to me

though given the context I can't say I'm surprised

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TowardsTheFuture
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#11 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

So would Miyazaki

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moonshadow
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#12 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

So would Miyazaki

Tbf so would like, anyone cool

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AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor
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#13 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

28 minutes from idea to export

What idea you dumbfuck? You have only taken a book and ask a chatbot to make a ghibli film out of it. You call that an "idea"? You're so dumb when this bubble pops you're gonna starve to death because there is not a chatbot telling you when to eat; and it will be a good thing for the world.

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Fushuan [he/him]
lemmy.blahaj.zone

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#14 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

28 minutes from idea to export What idea you dumbfuck? You have only taken a book and ask a chatbot to make a ghibli film out of it. You call that an "idea"? You're so dumb when this bubble pops you're gonna starve to death because there is not a chatbot telling you when to eat; and it will be a good thing for the world.

That's the process not the idea. The idea is "I want these two dune characters to slurp their lips with each other".

It still sucks tho.

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Hoimo
ani.social

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Joined: 2023-09-11
#15 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

28 minutes from idea to export What idea you dumbfuck? You have only taken a book and ask a chatbot to make a ghibli film out of it. You call that an "idea"? You're so dumb when this bubble pops you're gonna starve to death because there is not a chatbot telling you when to eat; and it will be a good thing for the world.

He couldn't even be arsed to do original casting or costume design, because this looks exactly like Timothy Chalomet and Zendaya in Dennis Villeneuve's Dune. His idea was "you made dis? ...I made dis."

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CrimeIsLegalNow
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#16 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

Chani being barely a shade darker than Paul is very sus to me though given the context I can't say I'm surprised

Tbf to them that's just how anime be. Come to think of it, Naruto was actually insanely woke in its anime time for having actually black characters (even when it made the most prominent one a rapper), that's something even the otherwise wildly leftist Ghibli works tended to avoid.

Though I think you could argue that characters like San from Princess Mononoke are inclusive of indigenous Japanese groups in a way that's both underacknowledged and more relevant to daily Japanese life.

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maria ~
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#17 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

somehow reminds me of people using all the animations in PowerPoint. like "looks how cool this is" instead if "look what I made with it".

and honestly, maybe the maker was aware of that connection (the one pointed out in the post), u never know. peeps are still peeps even if one doesnt like them.

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fakeman_pretendname
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#18 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

That's not how I would use the word "achieve".

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Nouvellalia
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#19 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man's mind. A woman's mind is far superior."
-Giiiiiiiiiirl

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Voroxpete
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Joined: 2023-07-07
#20 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

He couldn't even be arsed to do original casting or costume design, because this looks exactly like Timothy Chalomet and Zendaya in Dennis Villeneuve's Dune. His idea was "you made dis? ...I made dis."

Well, not exactly like. Zendaya's appearance has been noticeably altered in one quite specific way.

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Voroxpete
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#21 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

Tbf to them that's just how anime be. Come to think of it, Naruto was actually insanely woke in its anime time for having actually black characters (even when it made the most prominent one a rapper), that's something even the otherwise wildly leftist Ghibli works tended to avoid. Though I think you could argue that characters like San from Princess Mononoke are inclusive of indigenous Japanese...

While anime as a medium has a long history of being really, really shit at dark skinned characters, that doesn't excuse the fact that these models are completely fucking incapable of creating a darker skinned character as a result

Yes, it's a direct result of how skewed their training data is, but that just calls out how fundamentally flawed the whole process is. A good artist is capable of adopting an anime style while still creating things that are unusual within that style. Just look at the Avatar series. Korra, Kotara and Sokka can all be darker skinned characters that look amazing in a show that still has a distinctly anime look to it.

Characters in anime are not required to be light skinned. That's a flaw, not a thing to be preserved as if it's a requirement of the style. Even in actual anime we're finally starting to see this change for the better. But LLMs cannot produce things that are new or unusual, they can only regress to the mean.

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q7mJI7tk1
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#22 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

He took someone's novel, someone's animation style, someone's film look, someone's likeness, and created an abortion of a animation blending all those other human creations together, all the while using a data centre that consumes water resource and emits carbon dioxide that someone else is paying for.

And yet somehow he takes this as his idea and a win.

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Saapas
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#23 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

Well, not exactly like. Zendaya's appearance has been noticeably altered in one quite specific way.

The AI clearly wants to play it safe in regards to inappropriate depictions of darker skin. Problem solved!

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Obviouslywrong
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#24 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

The Ix would be fine with it though...

The butlerian standard barely allows calculators, phone and laptops would be banned and graphing calculator too.

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friend_of_satan
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Joined: 2023-06-19
#25 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

28 minutes from idea to export What idea you dumbfuck? You have only taken a book and ask a chatbot to make a ghibli film out of it. You call that an "idea"? You're so dumb when this bubble pops you're gonna starve to death because there is not a chatbot telling you when to eat; and it will be a good thing for the world.

https://bsky.app/profile/wigglewood.bsky.social/post/3lyhahevcws2x

"Oh, is that guy an artist?"

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rustydrd
sh.itjust.works

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#26 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

Butlerian moment.

Petition to include this term in the standard vernacular.

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Luccus
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#27 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

Couple of years ago I saw a video about Chris Chan, and when describing "Sonichu" they labeled it as "creative unoriginality".

I often think of this term these days.

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prole
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#28 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

Tbf to them that's just how anime be. Come to think of it, Naruto was actually insanely woke in its anime time for having actually black characters (even when it made the most prominent one a rapper), that's something even the otherwise wildly leftist Ghibli works tended to avoid. Though I think you could argue that characters like San from Princess Mononoke are inclusive of indigenous Japanese...

that's something even the otherwise wildly leftist Ghibli works tended to avoid.

I love Ghibli, but "wildly leftist"? Did they make an anarchism PSA or something that I wasn't aware of?

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prole
lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#29 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

The butlerian standard barely allows calculators, phone and laptops would be banned and graphing calculator too.

It doesn't allow calculators at all, right? Isn't that why they use Mentats?

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Sneezycat
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Joined: 2023-06-05
#30 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

Couple of years ago I saw a video about Chris Chan, and when describing "Sonichu" they labeled it as "creative unoriginality". I often think of this term these days.

Sonichu was creative compared to people using AI. At least Chris-chan drew it herself!

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Sneezycat
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#31 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

that's something even the otherwise wildly leftist Ghibli works tended to avoid. I love Ghibli, but "wildly leftist"? Did they make an anarchism PSA or something that I wasn't aware of?

"I'd rather be a pig than a fascist" sounds pretty leftist to me.

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prole
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#32 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

"I'd rather be a pig than a fascist" sounds pretty leftist to me.

Maybe these days. But there's a gap between being anti-fascist and leftist that includes ideologies that range from center-right to center-left

At least there used to be.

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Funkt4st1c
lemmy.world
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#33 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

Couple of years ago I saw a video about Chris Chan, and when describing "Sonichu" they labeled it as "creative unoriginality". I often think of this term these days.

This (the dune ai thing) is unfortunately uncreative unoriginality, aka straight garbage trash slop.

Sonichu is at least "lol what if my psychotic delusions combined my two favorite characters and i married them" which is, at the very least, interesting. A lot of good and creative characters are just X+Y= new thing

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iuminou
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#34 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

a THINKING MACHINE? that WASTES WATER? 🔪

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CrimeIsLegalNow
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Joined: 2026-09-09
#35 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

Maybe these days. But there's a gap between being anti-fascist and leftist that includes ideologies that range from center-right to center-left At least there used to be.

There's a ton of commentary out there on this but tl;dr Miyazaki was a Marxist in his youth and is probably best recently described as an ecosocialist and all his works reflect values of anti authoritarianism, rejecting patriarchy, environmentalism, and pacifism or at least the rejection of militarism.

He is, in short, a Japanese Green (not literally since there is a Japanese Green party but also possibly literally)

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Cypher
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#36 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

The AI clearly wants to play it safe in regards to inappropriate depictions of darker skin. Problem solved!

Doesn’t seem crazy far off

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Cypher
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#37 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

We stray closer and closer to 40K with each year ᴖ̈

I see this as an absolute win, well, except for all the bad bits. I just want to be a tech priest of the Cybernetica Thaumiturgica and purge AI

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LiarAmongAll
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Joined: 2025-10-20
#38 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

I overheard some woman on her phone the other day say, “Like Jessie, it’s better to die for the emperor than live for yourself yasssss!” A sign of the horror to come.

Can wait to get all Mechanicus with a robo dick, take me future!

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GalacticSushi
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Joined: 2025-10-18
#39 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

This (the dune ai thing) is unfortunately uncreative unoriginality, aka straight garbage trash slop. Sonichu is at least "lol what if my psychotic delusions combined my two favorite characters and i married them" which is, at the very least, interesting. A lot of good and creative characters are just X+Y= new thing

Sonichu is unironically a perfect example of outsider art.

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Cethin
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#40 Posted:   Subject: Re: breaking the rule is punishable by death Quote Reply

Doesn’t seem crazy far off

It's not crazy far off, but it is off. Although Paul is off too. He should be paler. They're both moved closer to the center, which makes her look more off by comparison.

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