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artyom
piefed.social
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KiwiTB
lemmy.world
KiwiTB@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-29 |
That face when you are fighting for consumer rights but you are obsessed with AI. |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
That face when you are fighting for consumer rights but you are obsessed with AI.
Oof |
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wcSyndrome
lemmy.zip
wcSyndrome@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-25 |
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Pucker8736
piefed.social
Pucker8736@piefed.social Joined: 2025-07-26 |
That face when you are fighting for consumer rights but you are obsessed with AI.
I feel like wendell has one of the more balanced/pragmatic takes on the tech, and at the least he's a huge proponent of self hosted models instead of paying the big providers. |
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Rob T Firefly
lemmy.world
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-07 |
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Blue_Morpho
lemmy.world
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-11-14 |
That face when you are fighting for consumer rights but you are obsessed with AI.
As he described it, the Terminator is coming whether we like it or not so we need a Summer Glau. |
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Avid Amoeba
lemmy.ca
avidamoeba@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-07-05 |
That face when you are fighting for consumer rights but you are obsessed with AI.
The cat is out of the bag and one of the ways to fight for our rights is by owning as much of the tech as possible. Deprive the big AI firms from the revenue they expect for the services they sell. Make them mid-enough-to-fail. If we let them make the money they expect to make we can't regulate them out of our lives without a major socioeconomic collapse like the great depression. |
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KiwiTB
lemmy.world
KiwiTB@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-29 |
I feel like wendell has one of the more balanced/pragmatic takes on the tech, and at the least he's a huge proponent of self hosted models instead of paying the big providers.
Don't forget self hosted models are made from the same stolen data, made in the same data centers, and are even more unreliable. They are just as bad. |
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ikidd
lemmy.dbzer0.com
ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-04-23 |
That is so fetch. |
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tehBishop
sh.itjust.works
tehBishop@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-16 |
Oh shit I forgot about that |
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TrenchcoatFullOfBats
belfry.rip
TrenchcoatFullofBats@belfry.ripJoined: 2023-09-01 |
Streets ahead |
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Possibly linux
lemmy.zip
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-06-26 |
"Whoopsy daisy" |
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Possibly linux
lemmy.zip
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-06-26 |
That face when you are fighting for consumer rights but you are obsessed with AI.
It is kind of unfortunate that he needs AI to anything security related |
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laz
pawb.social
laz@pawb.social Joined: 2023-09-27 |
"Whoopsy daisy"
Whoopsy doodle! |
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xbloodymajor
reddthat.com
xbloodymajor@reddthat.com Joined: 2024-08-29 |
Don't forget self hosted models are made from the same stolen data, made in the same data centers, and are even more unreliable. They are just as bad.
In my opinion they are not just as bad. I've found small local models do a very good job of solving various small problems, while using minimal energy. At worst they're just regular bad. If you think mass data collection without consent to do stuff is a problem then its time to stop using just about any internet product with recommendations like YouTube or search engines as they all track data and scrape websites. There's always a line and I feel the ongoing bad actors that are AI companies that have growth at any cost and already made local models are wildly different in the evil scale. |
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DataDisrupter
lemmy.world
DataDisrupter@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
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madmantis24
lemmy.wtf
madmantis24@lemmy.wtf Joined: 2026-01-14 |
As he described it, the Terminator is coming whether we like it or not so we need a Summer Glau.
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far_university1990
reddthat.com
far_university1990@reddthat.com Joined: 2023-08-15 |
Don't forget self hosted models are made from the same stolen data, made in the same data centers, and are even more unreliable. They are just as bad.
Selfhost Apertus open source model then. |
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Kangae_Hishiryo
scribe.disroot.org
Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.orgJoined: 2026-04-13 |
In my opinion they are not just as bad. I've found small local models do a very good job of solving various small problems, while using minimal energy. At worst they're just regular bad. If you think mass data collection without consent to do stuff is a problem then its time to stop using just about any internet product with recommendations like YouTube or search engines as they all track data ...
Then for you it's okay the use of models trained with stolen data and, more importantly, works stolen from real artists, scientists, philosophers, etc., just because "iT's SeLf HoStEd"? |
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wonderingwanderer
sopuli.xyz
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-12-31 |
Then for you it's okay the use of models trained with stolen data and, more importantly, works stolen from real artists, scientists, philosophers, etc., just because "iT's SeLf HoStEd"?
All of us are trained on stolen data too. Unless you invented your own language and came up with every idea you have from scratch, then we're all running on borrowed information. It's our shared inheritance as humanity. That's why open-weight local models are the only way LLMs should be done. The data belongs to us, humanity. We made the data that they scraped, over thousands of years, and we're still doing it to this day every time we post a comment on a public forum. It shouldn't be kept locked up in a vault where some oligarch can control its distribution and divvy it out for profit. It should be held in a public repo where anyone can download it, run it, tweak it, like any other open-source software. It belongs in the public domain. Diffusion generation is different of course because the data is more complex, and stylistic details are often directly spoofed from the originals. It's taking magazine-cuttings and calling them original work. AI slop isn't art. Language generation on the other hand is just... how humans have been speaking and sharing ideas since we began verbally communicating. |
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YiddishMcSquidish
lemmy.today
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-03-10 |
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KiwiTB
lemmy.world
KiwiTB@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-29 |
In my opinion they are not just as bad. I've found small local models do a very good job of solving various small problems, while using minimal energy. At worst they're just regular bad. If you think mass data collection without consent to do stuff is a problem then its time to stop using just about any internet product with recommendations like YouTube or search engines as they all track data ...
While using minimal energy to run, but not minimal energy to make. |
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KiwiTB
lemmy.world
KiwiTB@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-29 |
Selfhost Apertus open source model then.
Great, so we get a ethical shitty piece of tech. |
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