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Obama, in Midwest, assails 'cruelty' and indecency from Trump and his allies in the midterm campaign
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MicroWave lemmy.world MicroWave@lemmy.world
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Former President Barack Obama on Saturday seized on what he described as cruelty and indecency coming from President Donald Trump and his Republican allies, stepping into one of the nation’s ugliest midterm fights as he worked to rally Democratic voters in two Midwestern battlegrounds.

First in Ohio, Obama took aim at Republican gubernatorial candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, who has doubled down on an advertising campaign featuring the estranged mother of Democratic rival Dr. Amy Acton. Trump and Vice President JD Vance have also defended the ad, even as Republican leaders across Ohio, including Gov. Mike DeWine, have called for its removal.

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kalman dboft.com kalman@dboft.com
Joined: 2026-10-04
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I understand that both Obama and Clinton deported more people from the US.. but the way they did it may support the argument that Trump’s method was more about the display of terror and meeting his bases expectation to meet his campaign promise of hurting the other people.

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BooBees fedinsfw.app BooBees@fedinsfw.app
Joined: 2026-05-26
#3 · Quote Reply

I understand that both Obama and Clinton deported more people from the US.. but the way they did it may support the argument that Trump’s method was more about the display of terror and meeting his bases expectation to meet his campaign promise of hurting the other people.

Yeah you just need to look at how many legal residents, American born citizens were detained, deported, and how many people were killed during each administration to confirm your suspicion.

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fonix232 fedia.io fonix232@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-13
#4 · Quote Reply

I understand that both Obama and Clinton deported more people from the US.. but the way they did it may support the argument that Trump’s method was more about the display of terror and meeting his bases expectation to meet his campaign promise of hurting the other people.

Cruelty was always the point.

MAGA won't admit it, but they didn't vote for their own prosperity at the price of others' - they purely voted to make things worse for "the enemy".

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cantstopthesignal sh.itjust.works cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-28
#5 · Quote Reply

Cruelty was always the point. MAGA won't admit it, but they didn't vote for their own prosperity at the price of others' - they purely voted to make things worse for "the enemy".

At the cost of their own prosperity, as they are slowly figuring out.

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freagle lemmy.ml frisbird@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-11-24
#6 · Quote Reply

I understand that both Obama and Clinton deported more people from the US.. but the way they did it may support the argument that Trump’s method was more about the display of terror and meeting his bases expectation to meet his campaign promise of hurting the other people.

So you're saying they both did horrible things but one party did it in a way that gets their team to vote for them and the other party did it in a different way that was designed to get their team to vote for them?

Not really beating that Blue MAGA accusation

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the_crotch sh.itjust.works the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-03-07
#7 · (edited) Quote Reply

The same Obama who kindly and decently bombed thousands of civilians and oversaw the expansion of a security apparatus conducting warrantless searches on every American?

WHAT A GOOD MAN!

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kalman dboft.com kalman@dboft.com
Joined: 2026-10-04
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The same Obama who kindly and decently bombed thousands of civilians and oversaw the expansion of a security apparatus conducting warrantless searches on every American? WHAT A GOOD MAN!

Yeh, that guy...and all the others as well. I think we all know that the US has been doing this for a long long time. Thats one of the reasons why we're seeing a movement away from centrism.

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Cherries lemmy.world Cherries@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-12
#9 · Quote Reply

I don't like Obama, but I'm fine with the Liberal Whisperer using his power to push from the back and not trying to lead from the front, so to speak.

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AmidFuror fedia.io AmidFuror@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-03-11
#10 · Quote Reply

Any article about Clinton, Harris, or Obama will trigger people in the comments.

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CannonFodder lemmy.world CannonFodder@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-08-22
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So you're saying they both did horrible things but one party did it in a way that gets their team to vote for them and the other party did it in a different way that was designed to get their team to vote for them? Not really beating that Blue MAGA accusation

Well supporting immigration limits and rule of law is kinda a good thing, no? 'How' matters a lot here.

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freagle lemmy.ml frisbird@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-11-24
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Well supporting immigration limits and rule of law is kinda a good thing, no? 'How' matters a lot here.

LOL, "rule of law". Are you honestly saying that without even a shred of awareness? The rule of law is a euphemism for murdering the poor. Immigration limits are needed because the Western world has been totally destroying the homes and lives of the global majority for 600 years.

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nforminvasion lemmy.world nforminvasion@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-12-11
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LOL, "rule of law". Are you honestly saying that without even a shred of awareness? The rule of law is a euphemism for murdering the poor. Immigration limits are needed because the Western world has been totally destroying the homes and lives of the global majority for 600 years.

In b4 you're downvoted. This is OBJECTIVELY true.

We have quite literally caused mass migration by war, famine, coups, and other forms of imperialism. And this is no where more clear than Latin America. We're still actively fucking them over, and will continue to until this bloated empire ceases being one

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bunnybunny lemmy.zip bunnybunny@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-04-06
#14 · Quote Reply

The same Obama who kindly and decently bombed thousands of civilians and oversaw the expansion of a security apparatus conducting warrantless searches on every American? WHAT A GOOD MAN!

Beats a pedophile rapist, fraude, thief, traitor narcissist assjole

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Malica lemmy.zip Malica@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-08-27
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I don't like Obama, but I'm fine with the Liberal Whisperer using his power to push from the back and not trying to lead from the front, so to speak.

He's always projected a sense of decency, even though he's actually a war criminal. He's also an amazing speaker. I can think of few people better suited to speak on Trump's indecency.

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CharlesDarwin lemmy.world CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#16 · Quote Reply

Cruelty is the point.

The cons walk around - proudly - with shirts that say things like "make liberals cry again".

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🇵🇸antifa_ceo lemmy.ml antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-09-20
#17 · Quote Reply

Well supporting immigration limits and rule of law is kinda a good thing, no? 'How' matters a lot here.

How does the boot on your neck taste?

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🇵🇸antifa_ceo lemmy.ml antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-09-20
#18 · Quote Reply

Beats a pedophile rapist, fraude, thief, traitor narcissist assjole

At least Trump is honest and open about what he is. Obama hides behind liberal aesthetics.

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the_crotch sh.itjust.works the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-03-07
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Beats a pedophile rapist, fraude, thief, traitor narcissist assjole

And a poke in the eye beats a kick in the balls. I'm not going to pretend that getting poked in the eye is awesome.

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CannonFodder lemmy.world CannonFodder@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-08-22
#20 · Quote Reply

How does the boot on your neck taste?

No. Thats the how. And as I said, it matters. Can't you read? No offense.

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Corvidae lemmy.world Corvidae@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-06-28
#21 · Quote Reply

Cruelty was always the point. MAGA won't admit it, but they didn't vote for their own prosperity at the price of others' - they purely voted to make things worse for "the enemy".

Gang Of Psychos

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CannonFodder lemmy.world CannonFodder@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-08-22
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LOL, "rule of law". Are you honestly saying that without even a shred of awareness? The rule of law is a euphemism for murdering the poor. Immigration limits are needed because the Western world has been totally destroying the homes and lives of the global majority for 600 years.

The rule of law is the rule of law. You can mean what you want, but by default it means what it is. Without laws (which we are dangerously close to with the ruling elite now), we have no society. You can want higher immigration, and accommodation for people already integrated - and that's great, but I suspect you still want the law to regulate immigration somehow.

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freagle lemmy.ml frisbird@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-11-24
#23 · Quote Reply

The rule of law is the rule of law. You can mean what you want, but by default it means what it is. Without laws (which we are dangerously close to with the ruling elite now), we have no society. You can want higher immigration, and accommodation for people already integrated - and that's great, but I suspect you still want the law to regulate immigration somehow.

You're username is a wonderful tell

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CannonFodder lemmy.world CannonFodder@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-08-22
#24 · Quote Reply

You're username is a wonderful tell

You might think that, but I'm not even in your shitty country.

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bunnybunny lemmy.zip bunnybunny@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-04-06
#25 · Quote Reply

At least Trump is honest and open about what he is. Obama hides behind liberal aesthetics.

Yeah Trump is totally honest, he always speaks the truth…
Apparently you all know that he is a pedophile rapist, fraud, traitor and what not and you still vote for him. This really doesn’t make you look good

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Chakravanti multiverse.soulism.net Chakravanti@multiverse.soulism.net
Joined: 2026-07-13
#26 · Quote Reply

Gang Of Psychos

Don't insult Juggalos like that.

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freagle lemmy.ml frisbird@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-11-24
#27 · Quote Reply

You might think that, but I'm not even in your shitty country.

Then why the fuck are you commenting on our politics! In the USA, the rule of law has produced the largest carceral state in the history of humanity. The US rule of law imprisons more people per capita than the Soviet GULAG did at its height and imprisons multiple times more people than China has ever imprisoned. The rule of law in the USA is a farce.

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Chakravanti multiverse.soulism.net Chakravanti@multiverse.soulism.net
Joined: 2026-07-13
#28 · Quote Reply

The same Obama who kindly and decently bombed thousands of civilians and oversaw the expansion of a security apparatus conducting warrantless searches on every American? WHAT A GOOD MAN!

Apparently, you forgot your slash...

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CannonFodder lemmy.world CannonFodder@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-08-22
#29 · Quote Reply

Then why the fuck are you commenting on our politics! In the USA, the rule of law has produced the largest carceral state in the history of humanity. The US rule of law imprisons more people per capita than the Soviet GULAG did at its height and imprisons multiple times more people than China has ever imprisoned. The rule of law in the USA is a farce.

Unfortunately, the collapse of the U.S. affects other countries around the world. And I can comment on whatever the fuck I want to comment on. Yes the rule of law in the U.S. is a farce. But that doesn't mean a civil society shouldn't have laws. Specifically immigration regulation is often required to manage resources and prevent overloading.

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freagle lemmy.ml frisbird@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-11-24
#30 · Quote Reply

Unfortunately, the collapse of the U.S. affects other countries around the world. And I can comment on whatever the fuck I want to comment on. Yes the rule of law in the U.S. is a farce. But that doesn't mean a civil society shouldn't have laws. Specifically immigration regulation is often required to manage resources and prevent overloading.

Specifically immigration regulation is often required to manage resources and prevent overloading

Caused by the centuries of continuous violence brought upon the majority of the peoples of the world by European empire

You are only accounting for half the equation. Why are there so many refugees from Haiti coming to the USA? Because of what the French did over the course of several centuries and what English, Americans, Canadians, Spanish, Portuguese, and others decided to do in support of what the French did.

Had Europeans not gone out and raped the world they wouldn't need immigration controls that allowed their most vaunted progressive leader to deport over 3 million people while drone striking weddings and funerals.

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🇵🇸antifa_ceo lemmy.ml antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-09-20
#31 · Quote Reply

Yeah Trump is totally honest, he always speaks the truth… Apparently you all know that he is a pedophile rapist, fraud, traitor and what not and you still vote for him. This really doesn’t make you look good

I think you are willfully misunderstanding me. He is a hateful freak but he doesn't hide it.

I love when you shit on libs they reflexively think you are right wing lol

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🇵🇸antifa_ceo lemmy.ml antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-09-20
#32 · Quote Reply

No. Thats the how. And as I said, it matters. Can't you read? No offense.

You need to go read some history

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