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MicroWave
lemmy.world
MicroWave@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Former President Barack Obama on Saturday seized on what he described as cruelty and indecency coming from President Donald Trump and his Republican allies, stepping into one of the nation’s ugliest midterm fights as he worked to rally Democratic voters in two Midwestern battlegrounds. First in Ohio, Obama took aim at Republican gubernatorial candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, who has doubled down on an advertising campaign featuring the estranged mother of Democratic rival Dr. Amy Acton. Trump and Vice President JD Vance have also defended the ad, even as Republican leaders across Ohio, including Gov. Mike DeWine, have called for its removal. |
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kalman
dboft.com
kalman@dboft.com Joined: 2026-10-04 |
I understand that both Obama and Clinton deported more people from the US.. but the way they did it may support the argument that Trump’s method was more about the display of terror and meeting his bases expectation to meet his campaign promise of hurting the other people. |
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BooBees
fedinsfw.app
BooBees@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-05-26 |
I understand that both Obama and Clinton deported more people from the US.. but the way they did it may support the argument that Trump’s method was more about the display of terror and meeting his bases expectation to meet his campaign promise of hurting the other people.
Yeah you just need to look at how many legal residents, American born citizens were detained, deported, and how many people were killed during each administration to confirm your suspicion. |
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fonix232
fedia.io
fonix232@fedia.io Joined: 2023-06-13 |
I understand that both Obama and Clinton deported more people from the US.. but the way they did it may support the argument that Trump’s method was more about the display of terror and meeting his bases expectation to meet his campaign promise of hurting the other people.
Cruelty was always the point. MAGA won't admit it, but they didn't vote for their own prosperity at the price of others' - they purely voted to make things worse for "the enemy". |
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cantstopthesignal
sh.itjust.works
cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-28 |
Cruelty was always the point. MAGA won't admit it, but they didn't vote for their own prosperity at the price of others' - they purely voted to make things worse for "the enemy".
At the cost of their own prosperity, as they are slowly figuring out. |
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freagle
lemmy.ml
frisbird@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-11-24 |
I understand that both Obama and Clinton deported more people from the US.. but the way they did it may support the argument that Trump’s method was more about the display of terror and meeting his bases expectation to meet his campaign promise of hurting the other people.
So you're saying they both did horrible things but one party did it in a way that gets their team to vote for them and the other party did it in a different way that was designed to get their team to vote for them? Not really beating that Blue MAGA accusation |
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the_crotch
sh.itjust.works
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-03-07 |
The same Obama who kindly and decently bombed thousands of civilians and oversaw the expansion of a security apparatus conducting warrantless searches on every American? WHAT A GOOD MAN! |
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kalman
dboft.com
kalman@dboft.com Joined: 2026-10-04 |
The same Obama who kindly and decently bombed thousands of civilians and oversaw the expansion of a security apparatus conducting warrantless searches on every American? WHAT A GOOD MAN!
Yeh, that guy...and all the others as well. I think we all know that the US has been doing this for a long long time. Thats one of the reasons why we're seeing a movement away from centrism. |
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Cherries
lemmy.world
Cherries@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-12 |
I don't like Obama, but I'm fine with the Liberal Whisperer using his power to push from the back and not trying to lead from the front, so to speak. |
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AmidFuror
fedia.io
AmidFuror@fedia.io Joined: 2024-03-11 |
Any article about Clinton, Harris, or Obama will trigger people in the comments. |
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CannonFodder
lemmy.world
CannonFodder@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-22 |
So you're saying they both did horrible things but one party did it in a way that gets their team to vote for them and the other party did it in a different way that was designed to get their team to vote for them? Not really beating that Blue MAGA accusation
Well supporting immigration limits and rule of law is kinda a good thing, no? 'How' matters a lot here. |
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freagle
lemmy.ml
frisbird@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-11-24 |
Well supporting immigration limits and rule of law is kinda a good thing, no? 'How' matters a lot here.
LOL, "rule of law". Are you honestly saying that without even a shred of awareness? The rule of law is a euphemism for murdering the poor. Immigration limits are needed because the Western world has been totally destroying the homes and lives of the global majority for 600 years. |
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nforminvasion
lemmy.world
nforminvasion@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-11 |
LOL, "rule of law". Are you honestly saying that without even a shred of awareness? The rule of law is a euphemism for murdering the poor. Immigration limits are needed because the Western world has been totally destroying the homes and lives of the global majority for 600 years.
In b4 you're downvoted. This is OBJECTIVELY true. We have quite literally caused mass migration by war, famine, coups, and other forms of imperialism. And this is no where more clear than Latin America. We're still actively fucking them over, and will continue to until this bloated empire ceases being one |
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bunnybunny
lemmy.zip
bunnybunny@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-04-06 |
The same Obama who kindly and decently bombed thousands of civilians and oversaw the expansion of a security apparatus conducting warrantless searches on every American? WHAT A GOOD MAN!
Beats a pedophile rapist, fraude, thief, traitor narcissist assjole |
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Malica
lemmy.zip
Malica@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-08-27 |
I don't like Obama, but I'm fine with the Liberal Whisperer using his power to push from the back and not trying to lead from the front, so to speak.
He's always projected a sense of decency, even though he's actually a war criminal. He's also an amazing speaker. I can think of few people better suited to speak on Trump's indecency. |
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CharlesDarwin
lemmy.world
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-22 |
Cruelty is the point. The cons walk around - proudly - with shirts that say things like "make liberals cry again". |
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🇵🇸antifa_ceo
lemmy.ml
antifa_ceo@lemmy.mlJoined: 2025-09-20 |
Well supporting immigration limits and rule of law is kinda a good thing, no? 'How' matters a lot here.
How does the boot on your neck taste? |
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🇵🇸antifa_ceo
lemmy.ml
antifa_ceo@lemmy.mlJoined: 2025-09-20 |
Beats a pedophile rapist, fraude, thief, traitor narcissist assjole
At least Trump is honest and open about what he is. Obama hides behind liberal aesthetics. |
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the_crotch
sh.itjust.works
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-03-07 |
Beats a pedophile rapist, fraude, thief, traitor narcissist assjole
And a poke in the eye beats a kick in the balls. I'm not going to pretend that getting poked in the eye is awesome. |
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CannonFodder
lemmy.world
CannonFodder@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-22 |
How does the boot on your neck taste?
No. Thats the how. And as I said, it matters. Can't you read? No offense. |
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Corvidae
lemmy.world
Corvidae@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-06-28 |
Cruelty was always the point. MAGA won't admit it, but they didn't vote for their own prosperity at the price of others' - they purely voted to make things worse for "the enemy".
Gang Of Psychos |
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CannonFodder
lemmy.world
CannonFodder@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-22 |
LOL, "rule of law". Are you honestly saying that without even a shred of awareness? The rule of law is a euphemism for murdering the poor. Immigration limits are needed because the Western world has been totally destroying the homes and lives of the global majority for 600 years.
The rule of law is the rule of law. You can mean what you want, but by default it means what it is. Without laws (which we are dangerously close to with the ruling elite now), we have no society. You can want higher immigration, and accommodation for people already integrated - and that's great, but I suspect you still want the law to regulate immigration somehow. |
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freagle
lemmy.ml
frisbird@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-11-24 |
The rule of law is the rule of law. You can mean what you want, but by default it means what it is. Without laws (which we are dangerously close to with the ruling elite now), we have no society. You can want higher immigration, and accommodation for people already integrated - and that's great, but I suspect you still want the law to regulate immigration somehow.
You're username is a wonderful tell |
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CannonFodder
lemmy.world
CannonFodder@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-22 |
You're username is a wonderful tell
You might think that, but I'm not even in your shitty country. |
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bunnybunny
lemmy.zip
bunnybunny@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-04-06 |
At least Trump is honest and open about what he is. Obama hides behind liberal aesthetics.
Yeah Trump is totally honest, he always speaks the truth… |
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Chakravanti
multiverse.soulism.net
Chakravanti@multiverse.soulism.netJoined: 2026-07-13 |
Gang Of Psychos
Don't insult Juggalos like that. |
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freagle
lemmy.ml
frisbird@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-11-24 |
You might think that, but I'm not even in your shitty country.
Then why the fuck are you commenting on our politics! In the USA, the rule of law has produced the largest carceral state in the history of humanity. The US rule of law imprisons more people per capita than the Soviet GULAG did at its height and imprisons multiple times more people than China has ever imprisoned. The rule of law in the USA is a farce. |
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Chakravanti
multiverse.soulism.net
Chakravanti@multiverse.soulism.netJoined: 2026-07-13 |
The same Obama who kindly and decently bombed thousands of civilians and oversaw the expansion of a security apparatus conducting warrantless searches on every American? WHAT A GOOD MAN!
Apparently, you forgot your slash... |
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CannonFodder
lemmy.world
CannonFodder@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-22 |
Then why the fuck are you commenting on our politics! In the USA, the rule of law has produced the largest carceral state in the history of humanity. The US rule of law imprisons more people per capita than the Soviet GULAG did at its height and imprisons multiple times more people than China has ever imprisoned. The rule of law in the USA is a farce.
Unfortunately, the collapse of the U.S. affects other countries around the world. And I can comment on whatever the fuck I want to comment on. Yes the rule of law in the U.S. is a farce. But that doesn't mean a civil society shouldn't have laws. Specifically immigration regulation is often required to manage resources and prevent overloading. |
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freagle
lemmy.ml
frisbird@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-11-24 |
Unfortunately, the collapse of the U.S. affects other countries around the world. And I can comment on whatever the fuck I want to comment on. Yes the rule of law in the U.S. is a farce. But that doesn't mean a civil society shouldn't have laws. Specifically immigration regulation is often required to manage resources and prevent overloading.
Caused by the centuries of continuous violence brought upon the majority of the peoples of the world by European empire You are only accounting for half the equation. Why are there so many refugees from Haiti coming to the USA? Because of what the French did over the course of several centuries and what English, Americans, Canadians, Spanish, Portuguese, and others decided to do in support of what the French did. Had Europeans not gone out and raped the world they wouldn't need immigration controls that allowed their most vaunted progressive leader to deport over 3 million people while drone striking weddings and funerals. |
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🇵🇸antifa_ceo
lemmy.ml
antifa_ceo@lemmy.mlJoined: 2025-09-20 |
Yeah Trump is totally honest, he always speaks the truth… Apparently you all know that he is a pedophile rapist, fraud, traitor and what not and you still vote for him. This really doesn’t make you look good
I think you are willfully misunderstanding me. He is a hateful freak but he doesn't hide it. I love when you shit on libs they reflexively think you are right wing lol |
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🇵🇸antifa_ceo
lemmy.ml
antifa_ceo@lemmy.mlJoined: 2025-09-20 |
No. Thats the how. And as I said, it matters. Can't you read? No offense.
You need to go read some history |
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