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krashmo
lemmy.world
krashmo@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Stay strong, Montana.
We're working on prop I-194 this election, which would ban corporate money in politics in a unique way (you should read about it and encourage your state to adopt a similar proposal). Based on everything I've seen around here I expect it to pass. That won't stop the Supreme Court from overturning the will of the voters but at least it will piss a lot of people off when that happens. |
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shalafi
lemmy.world
shalafi@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-22 |
Which absolutely sucks because WV and WY are a couple of the best looking states(edit: nature wise, not people wise)
Visited my great-aunt's Civil War era farm several times as a child. I cried every time I was dragged away. I would kill to unlock videos from my childhood as a West Virginia movie. Peter Santenollo's videos about Appalachia, especially WV, have left me quietly weeping. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEyPgwIPkHo5If6xyrkr-s2I6yz23o0av For those that grew up without, this man performs real investigative journalism all by himself. It's rather shocking to see after all this time. You get inside places in America you didn't know existed. He pulls no punches, but neither does he fuck with people for drama, and he'll never lead the interviewee for a certain answer. Just the facts ma'am. |
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shalafi
lemmy.world
shalafi@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-22 |
I don't get Louisiana being red at all. I guess New Orleans is kind of a bubble but from a foreign perspective, it seems like such a beautiful fun city that I would have guessed would lean left
Cities are usually blue bubbles. You have to drill down to counties for a clear picture. |
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shalafi
lemmy.world
shalafi@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-22 |
The city does. Travel up Louisiana and it’s just like the rest of the south, but with hot sauce and boudin.
And rock and roll food! |
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spacegoat
lemmy.world
spacegoat@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-28 |
What a stupid system where land is more important than people.
I still argue with republicans about this and their argument is if we change it republicans will never win. What a stupid, depraved country. |
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im_fine_sandy
nord.pub
im_fine_sandy@nord.pub Joined: 2026-08-05 |
As a non-American with a very poor understanding of US politics by state, I had assumed that Florida and Texas would be on this list. |
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jaybone
lemmy.zip
jaybone@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-02-08 |
Those states really hate America and Americans. |
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wjrii
lemmy.world
wjrii@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-02-15 |
60% is +20
I could have structured it more clearly, but yeah, +11 is 5:4, and the +20 of 60/40 is 3:2. |
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Atropos
lemmy.world
Atropos@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
I'm surprised Iowa and Montana aren't on the list too. Indiana too.
Indianapolis is a huge chunk of the population and is significantly more reasonable than the majority of the state land area! |
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Zorque
lemmy.world
Zorque@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-13 |
Now compare it to a chart of the states with the worst educations... |
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Bluefalcon
discuss.tchncs.de
Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-07-04 |
Those states really hate America and Americans.
They love taking all our american tax money. |
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viral.vegabond
piefed.social
viral.vegabond@piefed.social Joined: 2024-06-01 |
I fucking hate it here... |
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ChunkMcHorkle
lemmy.world
ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
Columbia and Charleston must have done some heavy lifting in SC.
Used to. Historically Charleston was solid purple, often blue. After the Civil War there were more people of color living there than white, and the first African American rep came from SC-1 during Reconstruction. But after Republican Nancy Mace won in 2020 against a Dem incumbent, the Republicans in Columbia redistricted SC-1 (Charleston) in a gerrymander to ensure that most of the voters of color went to Jim Clyburn's nearby district, SC-6, making SC-1 dependably red, at least by the metrics of the time. Like, it wasn't enough that she won, they were trying to make it bulletproof. I never understood that until recently, but now it makes sense. The thing to keep in mind about South Carolina is that it still has a corrupt, extractive economy: slavery may be gone, but there are still effectively two states -- two classes -- and a very large percentage of working class people, esp people of color, that regularly get shafted by everything having to do with the government. It creates all kinds of interesting political situations, some of which work for Republicans in power and others that scare the shit out of them. Like earlier this summer when South Carolina noped out of further race-determined gerrymandering post-Callais while states like Tennessee gladly forged ahead: South Carolina wanted to, but they knew they were already on the fine line between gerrymander and dummymander with the last redistricting they pushed through. The Rs in Columbia know there is a huge percentage of the population that hate them. And because SC is an ex-slavery state, they are very, very good at corruption and knowing where to stop. Other states, not so much. So Columbia put brakes on it at the last second, promising to revisit redistricting next year. TL;DR: South Carolina is a masterclass for the rest in twisting and thwarting the popular will and vote of its own citizens, and has been working on its game since its colony days. |
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Viking_Hippie
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-04 |
Now compare it to a chart of the states with the worst educations...
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HotsauceHurricane
lemmy.world
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-05-13 |
Fuckin idaho. |
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ChunkMcHorkle
lemmy.world
ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
We're working on prop I-194 this election, which would ban corporate money in politics in a unique way (you should read about it and encourage your state to adopt a similar proposal). Based on everything I've seen around here I expect it to pass. That won't stop the Supreme Court from overturning the will of the voters but at least it will piss a lot of people off when that happens.
I looked it up. Oh god yes. I'd vote for that in a heartbeat. Thank you for commenting, because not being anywhere near there this is the first I've personally heard about Montana's good efforts in this direction, and national media doesn't really talk about these state efforts much. |
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ChunkMcHorkle
lemmy.world
ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
I think WY has about 37 people.
That's like 35 billionaires, a driver and a maid. |
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kboy101222
sh.itjust.works
kboy101222@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-12-17 |
Untrue, Florida isn't marked |
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Viking_Hippie
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-04 |
Untrue, Florida isn't marked
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Soggy
lemmy.world
Soggy@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
As a non-American with a very poor understanding of US politics by state, I had assumed that Florida and Texas would be on this list.
Texas has several large urban areas that kept it closer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election_in_Texas (But not as close as in 2020.) Florida has pretty much the same thing going on. Both states used to be more "purple" but right-wing movements and media consolidation have been a growing problem for decades. |
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Gpennyhigh
lemmy.world
Gpennyhigh@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-09-28 |
Now compare it to a chart of the states with the worst educations...
And other quality of life measures that they have regressed on typically, brain drain and other regression they choose with bad policies. |
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Azal
pawb.social
Azal@pawb.social Joined: 2023-08-05 |
We did do that, which is why the Dept of Education that the current administration is destroying exists. Regressives keep tearing everything down and we have to build up again. We need a cultural shift to value education, oppose violenve, and actually care about fellow humans we haven't personally met before the country will have lasting positive change.
Not for very long. I grew up in No Child Left Behind which was the last shitshow to screw up the education system. |
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Azal
pawb.social
Azal@pawb.social Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Most of the shit states.
Yea... I was absolutely shocked Missouri and Kansas weren't on the list. Especially Kansas which hasn't voted for a dem president since 64 and over 90 years since a democrat senator. |
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/home/pineapplelover
lemmy.dbzer0.com
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-30 |
Visited my great-aunt's Civil War era farm several times as a child. I cried every time I was dragged away. I would kill to unlock videos from my childhood as a West Virginia movie. Peter Santenollo's videos about Appalachia, especially WV, have left me quietly weeping. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEyPgwIPkHo5If6xyrkr-s2I6yz23o0av For those that grew up without, this man performs rea...
They're defending coal in a way but think about economic opportunity for green energy, that would replace all the work lost. Unfortunately, that is more politics. |
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Radical_Socialist_t00t
lemmy.ca
Radical_Socialist_t00t@lemmy.caJoined: 2026-06-29 |
So burn those down? |
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athatet
lemmy.zip
athatet@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-09-12 |
This is a made up map. The link at the bottom leads to a site where you can color in a map. Without an actual source to back any of this up it’s literally nothing. |
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CaptDust
sh.itjust.works
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Not surprising....what are the other two?
Bit of toss up between New Mexico, Nevada, South Carolina, Texas depending on the data source. |
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godsammitdam
lemmy.zip
godsammitdam@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-05-05 |
And which states are taker states? Lowest education rates? Least life expectancy? Highest cost of medical care? Highest crime rates pet capita? I can go on, but I'm sure they're also oh sooooo business and tax friendly too, right? |
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arak
lemmy.today
arak@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-09 |
Fun fact, that belt from OK to WV represents 8 of the bottom 10 states with the lowest education.
That's why they are R |
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arak
lemmy.today
arak@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-09 |
Those states really hate America and Americans.
You try living there and tell us how you feel |
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greygore
lemmy.world
greygore@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-10-20 |
This is a made up map. The link at the bottom leads to a site where you can color in a map. Without an actual source to back any of this up it’s literally nothing.
I just compared to the percentages on Wikipedia and they all check out. It may be a made up map but it seems to be an accurate one. |
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narot23
lemmy.zip
narot23@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-10-23 |
Great, now let's see per capita where those states rank when it comes to welfare consumption - surprise surprise, it's always projection with that crowd. |
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shalafi
lemmy.world
shalafi@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-22 |
They're defending coal in a way but think about economic opportunity for green energy, that would replace all the work lost. Unfortunately, that is more politics.
Yet another reason I cry for them. Imagine West Virginia pivoting to green energy and leading the US. But they won't, because dad, papaw, great-grandad and his dad were miners and made enough to feed a family. |
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RelativeArea1
sh.itjust.works
RelativeArea1@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-02-17 |
texas and ohio wasn't on the list? wao |
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Horsey
lemmy.world
Horsey@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-21 |
texas and ohio wasn't on the list? wao
TX will be bluer than OH in our lifetime. Never thought I’d see the day lol. |
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maxthemummer
lemmus.org
maxthemummer@lemmus.org Joined: 2026-09-06 |
Can't find the original article any longer (have a PDF if anyone wants it), but David Wong's "How Half of America Lost Its Fucking Mind" is the best explanation for Trump I have ever seen, bar none. Here's a copy: https://www.ohiohumanities.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Wong-How-Half-of-America-Lost-Its-F-ing-Mind-edited-and-abridged.pdf People can scream whatever simplistic single-word answer...
You're right. That essay is excellent. Appreciate the link. |
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yeehaw
lemmy.ca
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-08-09 |
texas and ohio wasn't on the list? wao
Probably 59% |
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shalafi
lemmy.world
shalafi@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-22 |
You're right. That essay is excellent. Appreciate the link.
That changed my view as nothing I've ever read on any subject. Of course I'll soon take a beating as if I'm apologizing for Trump's in trying to understand them. |
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rooster_butt
piefed.world
rooster_butt@piefed.world Joined: 2025-08-30 |
Untrue, Florida isn't marked
Florida is like right in the middle of the rankings. It's old people that move here that suck. The kids are alright. |
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psycho_driver
lemmy.world
psycho_driver@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-18 |
Untrue, Florida isn't marked
#1 in special education |
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bdonvr
thelemmy.club
bdonvr@thelemmy.clubJoined: 2023-06-14 |
The states that are red aren't surprising. What's surprising is some of the states that aren't red. Particularly Kansas, Nebraska, and South Carolina.
Kansas isn't as crazy red as you think... Its certainly conservative but they have a Dem governor they've re-elected already. The larger towns are more mid-west liberal. |
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VeryVito
lemmy.world
VeryVito@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
Untrue, Florida isn't marked
Nor North Carolina. |
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kunaltyagi
programming.dev
kunaltyagi@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-12 |
TX will be bluer than OH in our lifetime. Never thought I’d see the day lol.
Depends on how much time it gets to disenfranchise blue voters |
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prole
lemmy.blahaj.zone
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-06-11 |
West Virginia used to be a union stronghold. They'd be ashamed of what that state has become. |
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dethedrus
lemmy.dbzer0.com
dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-03-09 |
In reply to an earlier post
His real name is Jason K. Pargin and he’s a pretty fantastic author and podcaster. Yet another of the Cracked diaspora that is still doing great work. |
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Formfiller
lemmy.world
Formfiller@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-12 |
Can we just give them their own backwards country called dumbfuckastan? |
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Dicska
lemmy.world
Dicska@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-06 |
While that's informative and was genuinely interesting: is this really TIL material? There are plenty of communities where this fits perfectly, but I feel like there has been an increase of political posts disguised as TIL, just because oh I just read about this. |
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sudoer777
lemmy.ml
sudoer777@lemmy.mlJoined: 2021-02-18 |
texas and ohio wasn't on the list? wao
I was in DFW for a while and it felt very capitalist but not MAGA compared to where I live currently |
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sudoer777
lemmy.ml
sudoer777@lemmy.mlJoined: 2021-02-18 |
Fuckin idaho.
I live here and am convinced that its the most idiotic state in the entire country. |
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sudoer777
lemmy.ml
sudoer777@lemmy.mlJoined: 2021-02-18 |
As a non-American with a very poor understanding of US politics by state, I had assumed that Florida and Texas would be on this list.
I think Texas and Florida end up on the news a lot because of the high population and disproportionately red government compared to the voter base, but they're not the reddest states population-wise. |
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