They're not being raised at all, since Israel is killing both themselves and their parents.

Also, justifying killing children by claiming they were gonna "go bad" anyway is just horrible. Killing children is wrong. There is no cause that can justify it, and any cause that attempts to are horrible causes and their champions are horrible people.

Killing a child's family is a really effective way to create the next generation of people who want to destroy you.

Apparently that's not obvious to the Israelis, since they keep doing it.

God, reddit was beyond revolting with the whole 'hurr theyre homophobic in Palestine, Gays for Palestine is full of idiots'. Pretty sure it was prevelant here too early on.

"It's OK to murder people who disagree with your politics" is a wild take I don't think they fully comprehend.

I thought that was one of the pillars of USA identity.

Sacha Baron Cohen got beat up and almost killed by Jewish fundamentalists while doing his Bruno character in Israel.

Pinkwashing propagandists never mention that Israel does not have marriage equality. It's not some pro-lgbt utopia. The fundies over there do not hesitate to throw stones at even Jewish women for showing skin if you're in 'their neighbourhood'.

Likes of Sam Harris, John Cleese, Douglas Murray, Bill Maher and many allegedly left-leaning, even atheist, people lose their minds and cognitive abilities when muslims are mentioned.

Is islam pro marriage equality? No.

Are there gay muslims who get gay-married and live a gay ol muslim life? Yes.

How do they reconcile the contradiction in their faith/scripture and lived experience? The same way gay religious folks do in any other religious community.

Do the bombs of racist zionists differentiate between anti-lgbt, pro-lgbt and fabulously-lgbt muslims? Fk No.

Christianity or Judaism did not bring us marriage equality either. Their "Judeo-Christian sharia" pushed the hero of WWII, Alan Turing, to commit suicide for being gay.

Homophobia in muslim communities should be challenged. But don't put this burden on the helpless Palestinians enduring a Western funded genocide. Especially when West itself doesn't treat all queer folks fairly.

There are 2 billion muslims out there. They should ask Trump's allies like Dr Mehmet Oz, Saudis, Qataris, Khaleejis, Marlaina of Alberta, Scott Moe of Saskatchewan or Donald's favourite Field Marshall in Pakistan why they don't treat their LGBTQ+ citizens fairly.

Sam Harris and Bill Maher are fake atheists. They absolutely hate absolutely everything about Islam and Christianity too, even the many good aspects.

But they are so Zionist that they won't see the flaws in Judaism (which is arguably much worse than both Christianity and Islam).

Fake. Atheists.

Sacha Baron Cohen got beat up and almost killed by Jewish fundamentalists while doing his Bruno character in Israel.

Too bad he's still a fucking Zionist

The genocide started almost as soon as Israel was created. That’s what settler colonialism is, replacing native inhabitants with your settlers.

I didn't say shit about who started what. Lemme make sure I understand your point of view though, please correct me if this isn't correct. You feel it's OK for Israel to kill children, because they've been harmed themselves in the past, right? That's completely alright with you?

Such a misleading statement. Yes the device started then, a genocide againstagainst the Jews by the Arabs.

Source: your racist ass

Username checks out for supporting genocide.

lmao clown.

If you can accept the necessity of genocide to fulfill your purpose, then just about anything can be made to make sense. Occam is spinning in his grave.

If Israel wanted to limit collateral damage, they could. Would it be riskier to Israeli forces to send soldiers into some terrorist hideout instead of missiles? Absolutely. They put the lives of children on a scale against soldiers who knew what they were signing up for and decided killing children was fine. 64,000 children, according to UNICEF.

If that's the Israeli army limiting child deaths, if the world we live in is one where they cared, or tried, to save any Palestinian children, then they must be the most incompetent army in history. Other evidence makes it clear it's not incompetence, but for this discussion, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, which still leaves me with absolute incompetence. Wikipedia tells me there's 169,500 active Israeli Defence Force members. That's a dead child for every 3 service members. That's a genocide, even if it were a genocide through incompetence.

Stop spreading Zionist propaganda.

Limit collateral damage my fucking ass, we've all seen the satalite images

Its always the .ca users I swear.

"Why are you being so antisemitic?"

Equating Zionism with Judaism is itself antisemitism. You are effectively saying that all Jews are genocidal monsters.

I thought it was more an argument about one-state versus two-state solutions, not rationalizing genocide.

Weren't those arguments more prevalent earlier on when the full extent of the atrocities Israel was doing and intended to keep doing wasn't yet so widely known? There was definitely a media bubble that kept the worst of it from hitting people's feeds.

By one year in a lot of people who were saying "right to self-defense" had shifted gears to "wait no this is fucked up."

FUN FACT: Every genocide in human history has been led by conservatives.

They're working on it

Fun fact: children in Gaza are born antisemitic and are genetically terrorist freaks.

Hamas was a small virtually unknown movement in Palestinian politics until they got a large infusion of cash…from Netanyahu.
A man who was about to go to jail when an attack from Hamas permanently postponed his recall. And here he is out of jail and murdering the very people he’s built his career upon teaching Israelis to hate.

Nobody is born antisemitic. Though upbringing can induce it quickly in the right circumstances.

Those circumstances? Incest and lots of drugs during pregnancy, probably.

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Are we counting Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ceausescu, North Korean and Ethiopian ones as Conservatives as well?

Yes. Every named person on your list was famously very socially conservative. None of those people were progressive (the opposite of conservative). In fact, each of them pretty specifically called out progressives in their respective countries as the enemy of the people and targeted progressives to be imprisoned snd murdered. Their behavior rhymes perfectly with that of modern conservatives.

If you don't look thru a modern lens, Mao's cultural revolution seems rather progressive in many ways. Same can be argued about some of the other names.

Simply untrue. Even by their contemporary standards, they identified as and appealed heavily to the most conservative members of their populations. In fact, throughout history, these countries' most conservative citizens have always been the only ones to defend them.

He literally dismantled the traditional social structures. Was a radical left-wing leader. But somehow, you want to pretend he was a conservative?

Just because he didn't advocate for unlimited genders, he was a conservative! Lol.

You're a USian communist?

The conservative trolls are out today! You are now repeating Fox News talking points. By your definition, Trump is a progressive! 😆

Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. It is not possible for a conservative to enter any conversation in good faith because all conservatives are patholigical liars.

Just own that conservatism is fascism. It's accepted in the mainstream now. Even CBS bends the knee to fascism. It's OK, fascist. You can just be yourself now. 🤣

My country kept our fascist bigots out of our highest political office. I helped and voted to keep them out.

I don't watch fox. Don't watch CBS. Don't even own a TV.

Your non-answer is enough to answer my question. :)

The whole world doesn't work or play by USian rules. People don't become "conservatives" or "fascists" just because delusional commies from a wealthy western country label them as such.

I truly don't believe anything you say. You defend fascists. That makes you a fascist in my view. As my enemy, I have no reason to trust any nonsense that comes out of your mouth.

If you truly don't watch Fox News, then it should disturb you to learn you share their views on history. But, as a fascist, you will likely share numerous views with them, so it should not come as any surprise.

Your shithole country is the one waging war against us and publicly announcing annexation of our sovereign nation. Making you my enemy. As my enemy, I have no reason to trust or respect your dumb opinions.

Good luck out there, USian commie.