And how do they know that the trans issue was specifically why? What if they see that and attribute it to some other issue he supports? There is no clear indication

Perhaps by amplifying the voice of trans people in the build-up and aftermath of the coordinated campaign.

This one is in iowa

At one time, yes. Then he suffered a TBI and became a conservative. Just another case that supports the theory that conservative brains are damaged brains.

But releasing transphobic ads to placate conservatives is classy?

ah. sounds so much like one from indiana.

So you enjoy fascism, eh?

The Democrat is fascist too, what part of that don't you understand?

No. I’m going to say that I’m a black anarchist, so I know everything there is to know about all things and therefore you cannot argue with me- and I only have two EXTRA fingers. But they’re on my feet.

All the parts that you don’t, mainly- what fascism means.

Probably have the same consultants

Explain how your non vote is going to save their lives? You are okay with it and more by not voting and getting someone even worse in office.

At least voting them in maybe their fellow dems can change their mind. Getting 4 more years of a republican means 4 more years of anti rights and deaths.

Lol i bet

Funny claiming the rights are non negotiable yet you are giving up far more by allowing a republican to win instead.

You might be able to change his mind about trans rights.

You 100% will not change the republicans and they want even more people to lose their rights and care even less about their lives.

I'm loving in the real world where voting has major consequences and trying to deal with reducing the amount of hatred and saving lives. Not voting against republicans will cost countless more lives to be lost.

Ok, so then explain the difference between the genocidal Democrat and the genocidal Republican. Specifically this race.

My choices would be between "the person that wants to kill me", and "the person that wants to kill me". I'm a target of their genocide.

The Democrat wants the same thing as the Republican. There is no changing either of their minds. I am one of their targets. Don't fucking talk down to me like I don't know what I'm talking about.

Well that fucking sucks.

But his opponent is ashley hinson, a proud trump supporter, so, uh, Vote for the person that's not her.

Erm actually the best way to improve society is to put absolutely no pressure on democrats at all. You're basically voting for a transphobe to win if you don't vote for this transphobe

/s.

The way things are going, in 2040, we're gonna have a democrat on the ballot who wants to jail trans people, and a republican who wants to execute them, and these liberals will argue earnestly in favor of the former. The only way to avoid that eventuality is to signal to the democratic party that trans rights are non-negotiable, and we cannot do that as long as we're voting blue no matter who.

If you have a choice between a transphoboc zionist and a transphoboc zionist, vote third party. Make the effort to get out and vote, and make the effort to vote third party.

Did you read the title of this post?

Thank you!

This thread has been exhausting. I'm glad at least someone understands what I'm talking about.

Or just don't vote for a fucking conservative. "Vote blue no matter who" is how we got dems like this on the ballot. If the left signals to them that they have our vote no matter what their policies are, then their best strategy for getting elected is to appeal to the right.

If you don’t know by now… then this is way above my pay grade. I’d suggest you start paying attention to what is happening to everyone and not just you for a start.

No, we got dems like this on on the ballot by people not voting in the primaries. If people would get off their asses and participate and vote in the primaries, we could have good candidates. Since it's too late to change that, though, the only choice now is to vote for the lesser evil. Anything else means letting the greater evil win by default.

Now is not the time for a moral stand. Now is the time to be pragmatic. Don't vote for what is effectively a Nazi just because the other candidate isn't perfect.

Good to know that you consider my human rights to be an acceptable compromise.

Your hypocrisy is fucking mind blowing dude! You’ve no place tonsoak of rights while simultaneously suggesting that people not vote.

Yes it does, eventually. Y'all have been having the same argument for decades, but if you had voted third party decades ago instead of just lying down and accepting the 'lesser evil' then things would be different and wouldn't have shifted so far right. You all have been playing right into the corpos hands forever by constantly punching left as everythibg shifts right. This cycle will carry on perpetually until enough people stop throwing away the limited power they have, which is the choice to not choose ANY shitty option.

I asked you not to call me that, because I'm trans+, not because I consider it an insult. Your second time is a blatant misgendering. You really don't care about trans people, do you?

Where is your line? At what point should we start saying "actually, your position on trans people is so unacceptable that I can't support you"? Because a ban on trans healthcare should be enough.

I call my girlfriend dude. It’s not a gendered name and it’s not meant as an insult either way. And I’m done arguing with you. When there’s a fascist as your opponent:

YOU VOTE AGAINST THE FASCIST.

It’s all hands on deck. I would t give a shit if they candidate was anti people-with-autism-that-live-in apartments-with-a-cat, I’d still vote for them against a fascist.

There is SO much more at stake here than issues that ONLY affect you, chicka. So to answer your question where I draw the line?

Between US and fascism. Period. That’s it- End of fucking story. And there are NO purity tests, and no entitlements on this side of it.

I call my girlfriend dude. It’s not a gendered name

I don't care what you think. I consider it gendered, and therefore don't want to be called that.

chicka

Trans+, not trans. Try not assuming gender instead.

There is no line

Cool, so you'll sacrifice everything and everyone as long as it's the right kind of fascist.

Jfc… I’m going to just block you to avoid all the possible ways you can be offended.

Have a good day.

lol we’re barely into Trumps presidency (all the fun stuff happens in part 2) and you still think things are going like normal? lmao

we’ve lost 40 years of progress in 1 because Democrats weren’t pure enough for you

and i say this hating both clintons

They appreciate your complicity.

You advocate for absolutely nothing but fascism.

Really so they are exactly the same? Minus all the much worse stuff that the republicans also want.

But that doesn't matter to you?

What is your solution?

One of them will win and you don't care if its the worse one who will hurt more?

In your words one who wants to kill you, and one who wants to kill you and many others and you would rather the second win so you can feel smug about it.

Where did I say that they were exactly the same? Why are you being disingenuous?

Where is the line? At what point are you unwilling to support a candidate over their anti-trans stance? Banning trans healthcare should be enough.

As far as I know, there was no indication that this dude is a massive transphobe prior to the primaries. This needs to lose him votes. I'm not encouraging anyone to vote for what is effectively a nazi, I'm encouraging people to vote for someone who isn't a transphobe.

I am so sick and fucking tired of you people acting like we want perfection. I'm not saying not to vote for him because he isn't perfect, I'm saying not to vote for him because he wants to harm trans people. The DNC supports candidates like this because they appeal to the right, and that's the only demographic they need to earn votes from. Make them earn your vote.

Stfu psyop clown.

Enjoy two more years of what you voted for asshat. And now, enjoy reading EVERTHING I have to say, knowing I e not seen one more work of your propaganda spreading bullshit.

Blocked.

Nah. I'm trans. If the Democrats are going to abandon me and my people, then I think every queer person should just stay home and not vote at all. I will not vote for the promise of "we'll save democracy but also liquidate trans people." If you're not willing to stand up for minorities, then we can all go to hell together.

If you're not willing to stand up for minorities, you do not deserve democracy.

You just have the attention span of a goldfish. It's not a binary choice because this isn't just about one election. It's not my fault you have long term memory loss.

Kapo.

Nah, fuck that bullshit. I'm trans. If you don't care enough about the lives of and my people to vote against transphobes, I don't really care what happens to the rest of the country at that point. If the entire society wants to go bigot, well then you all can go straight to hell. Let democracy fall. You clearly don't deserve it.

Abolition.

What are you going to do? How are you standing up for all of those that they are going to hurt over 4 years?