Y’all think my 2017 is okay? 😬

It may not use ai but I'd be shocked if it wasn't still collecting

Look AI code gets a ton of hate. And rightfully so. But you can use a coding agent to basically completely take control of hardware you own. It takes minutes.

Could you go into more detail for those of us who don't want to brick their tv? I think you're over estimating some of our knowledge base.

Examples/HOWTO?

Was watching gamers nexus. Opened up codex. Gave it network permissions. It was able to fully take control of the TV in minutes. It even navigated to the admin panel and gave me the code to plug in. Very quickly had figured out some of the major API's. In a half hour, I was able to get a container/ program set up to just "send" any stream I wanted to the TV without having to use any Samsung services. Then, scramble/ poison telemetry data/ advertising data. Whatever you like. None of it is worth publishing. But I wanted to control the TV I bought. The one I own. In my house. That I paid for. And I think its royally fucked up the world we live in that there are any barriers to that.

Just open up any coding agent you like, locally hosted or otherwise, give it network permissions and the model number, and let it cook. These TV's are basically unsecured.

It’s never been allowed internet access. I suppose it could be looking for open networks 😳

Assume I’m a newb. What kind of prompt would you give it? “ I have model x. Please find it and fix the apps on it to not record my information”?

My conversation literally started like:

I have a local Samsung TV that is a good TV, but the Samsung software is absolute shit and I hate it. I dont want ads. I don't want their shit software. And I want to poison any telemetry streams they might be using to spy. I recently watched a gamers nexus video on hacking TV's. Can you look on my network and find the TV. and then do a research project to look into what it would take to de-shittify this TV?

Your prompt*

One can’t converse with a non-entity

Language policing is very Woke 1.0

I’m not policing

I’m trying to help you not look like one of those dumbasses who thinks their computer is sentient

I really hope one day people will look back at those practices the same way we look back at the normality of cigarettes being pushed on everyone back in the 50's.

what about no. too many people are smoking today.

No you are. That's what that is.

I was considering buying a Samsung OLED, but crossing that brand off my list.

I just need a TV I can hook my PS5 up to and, once I set it up, an old desktop that I'll use for SmartTube and Emby.

That's it.

Just don't use OpenAI or Anthropic cloud models for reverse engineering your TV's APIs. This guy got banned from OpenAI for doing this research on his Samsung TV, and there are reports of Anthropic models starting to refuse reverse engineering tasks, having been given new guidance. Apparently proles learning about the corporate surveillance they're under is a step too far.

Hence the point about not fucking advertising it.

I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here but you’re not making it easy

just don't connect it to the internet.

You can always just not connect it to the Internet.

Get a cheap projector and connect it to a pc with jellyfin

i mean, why wouldnt they?

life sucks, society sucks, world sucks, who wouldnt want to check out faster.

i mean, Samsung has enough bad practices and bad rep to wipe off your list long before this current shit

Well, if you're being pedantic: prompt doesn't seem to fit as it refers to the "user" turn, and not the thread resulting of the back and forth communication between the "user" and "assistant".

I assume all your interactions with AI are being analyzed continuously and they will keep getting more restrictive about what you can use it for.

True, but it may also allow malevolent people to take control of hardware they do not own.

If these tvs are capturing private conversations for advertising, where’s the consent for that?

Which models would you recommend from whom to get this done?

Prompt is the generally accepted terminology in the relevant professional field

There’s a repo with ready-made APKs for many TV models: https://github.com/Gathin23/cleanyourtv

And if your specific one isn’t supported, it has instructions how to do it with AI yourself

EULA has T&C that the first users agree to when they fast forward with the accept accept accept accept screens

They don't need consent, none do us can afford to sue them.

Well the malevolent people I'm concerned about are the ones who sold me a TV I can't control and who stole the Internet to make you rent our collective knowledge we built together.

Tv reaches some unprotected wifi and there goes your data.

Tv reaches some unprotected wifi and there goes your data.

That hasn't been the same since OLED which are better

why would it reach an unprotected WiFi access point?

I can barely get WiFi to work in my house let alone one of the neighbors.

They are saying that if you are using a cloud model, you are advertising it by default.

software. And I want to poison any telemetry streams they might be using to spy. I recently watched a gamers nexus video on hacking TV's. Can you look on my network and find the TV. and then do a research project to look into what it would take to de-shittify this TV?

So, "local" would require a pretty powerful machine here and "cloud" might eventually stop being an option because they don't want you to do such things using their cloud models.

Other than that, you are starting to attain that tone of a person who thinks they are starting to understand something in depth, like a Linux convert that has learned that one can write shell scripts. Don't. You've used a glorified combination of Google and StackOverflow copypaste and it worked.

the same sucky life is even worse with heart disease, not that I don't sympathise with the desire to get out but that's a really dumb way to do it

Guest with open hotspot on phone.

You don't need the world's best display to watch your prestige tv slop. Projectors are a pretty good viewing experience with some minimal setup.

You can't persuade those people, before these bots they were picking a random Facebook post over a person they know, because they didn't want to be taking advice from that person, but random posts (except God forbid Wikipedia, because they say it can be unreliable ; that can't happen to a random Facebook post you agree with, that's the real shit), and now these bots conveniently give them answers they are looking for, confirmed by high authority of some faceless company (anything is better than the authority of a person you meet who's more knowledgeable), for every kind of situation.

And yes, they are trying to hide it thinking that's smart and they are avoiding conflicts with inadequate people who can't be reasoned with on all the important topics, that a text generator will seamlessly evolve into a race of robots helping them, that communist theocracy is the best system of government, that there's a world government controlling us via vaccines and all such very nuanced and perceptive takes.

Hence the "language policing" complaint, that person is trying to weasel themselves out of answering that yes, they think their computer is sentient, without arguments.

One of my favourite people used to say "you gotta die from something" whenever the topic of his smoking would come up. Then he got a stroke that didn't kill him.

Isn't that what class action law suits are for?

Or better yet, consumer protection laws?

Because someone having better devices than you or your neighbor getting some long range access point.

how about weaponizing your willingness to die against the world that made you want to instead of just dying peacefully

WHY BE THE [[Little Sponge]] WHO HATES ITS [[$4.99]] LIFE WHEN YOU CAN BE A [[BIG SHOT!!!]]

remove the network card