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QuantumEraser fedia.io QuantumEraser@fedia.io
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image saying "at least the important software isn't being vibe cod-" (cut off) and showing a graph of em dashes in the linux kernel over time with a sharp rise the past few years
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Blibittyblah futurology.today Blibittyblah@futurology.today
Joined: 2026-10-25
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I really love the emdash. I’m very—very—upset ai ruined it for me—cunts.

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raman_klogius ani.social raman_klogius@ani.social
Joined: 2024-06-22
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I really love the emdash. I’m very—very—upset ai ruined it for me—cunts.

Rebel. Start using triple em dashes⸻see?

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Blibittyblah futurology.today Blibittyblah@futurology.today
Joined: 2026-10-25
#4 · Quote Reply

Rebel. Start using triple em dashes⸻see?

Fu———ck yeah.

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theneverfox pawb.social theneverfox@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-06-29
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I really love the emdash. I’m very—very—upset ai ruined it for me—cunts.

Turns out AI learned from humans, who learn from the writings they're exposed to

It's an endless cycle, and we're only in the first revolution

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Blibittyblah futurology.today Blibittyblah@futurology.today
Joined: 2026-10-25
#6 · Quote Reply

Turns out AI learned from humans, who learn from the writings they're exposed to It's an endless cycle, and we're only in the first revolution

And one solution would be to just turn off all grammar and spell check and let people’s fat fingers and inability to spell let them stand out as the human. Oh boy.

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staircase programming.dev staircase@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-05-11
#7 · Quote Reply

I really love the emdash. I’m very—very—upset ai ruined it for me—cunts.

This reads like Haiku

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ryannathans aussie.zone ryannathans@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-09-20
#8 · Quote Reply

It's probably about to drop off. Opus 5.5 isn't outputting em dashes in work produced anymore

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ElChinchilla lemmy.world ElChinchilla@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-08-14
#9 · Quote Reply

And one solution would be to just turn off all grammar and spell check and let people’s fat fingers and inability to spell let them stand out as the human. Oh boy.

Greta jda

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CentipedeFarrier piefed.social CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-11-21
#10 · Quote Reply

And one solution would be to just turn off all grammar and spell check and let people’s fat fingers and inability to spell let them stand out as the human. Oh boy.

On the plus side, drunk people would have a MUCH harder time starting arguments..

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Obituarykidney lemmy.world Obituarykidney@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-04
#11 · (edited) Quote Reply

This reads like Haiku

It could be a haiku. They don't need to be 5-75 syllables. It's more about an observation or a moment of clarity/realisation. The first two lines set up a concept or image, and the third line closes out the thought, usually with contrast. Just have to structure it properly.

I really love the emdash,

I’m very—very—upset ai ruined it for me.

Cunts.

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FerretyFever0 fedia.io FerretyFever0@fedia.io
Joined: 2025-05-30
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And one solution would be to just turn off all grammar and spell check and let people’s fat fingers and inability to spell let them stand out as the human. Oh boy.

I did that over a year ago. It was always misinterpreting what I was trying to say and fucking it up, so this is honestly way better.

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Catoblepas lemmy.blahaj.zone Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-06-13
#13 · Quote Reply

It could be a haiku. They don't need to be 5-75 syllables. It's more about an observation or a moment of clarity/realisation. The first two lines set up a concept or image, and the third line closes out the thought, usually with contrast. Just have to structure it properly. I really love the emdash, I’m very—very—upset ai ruined it for me. Cunts.

5-75

You have been reading much longer haikus than I have 😜

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rklm lemmy.dbzer0.com rklm@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-02
#14 · (edited) Quote Reply

I've been using linux for 18 years, but since reviewing the Open Slopware list I've been making a lot of changes.

FreeBSD ticks almost every box I need it to. It runs Plasma, it runs Steam/Proton (through a thin compatibility layer that enables a lot of other linux software), it can be set up immutably and has superior containerization natively via jails. It even supports XDG compliance.

But there is no support for changing voltage or clock rate on any amd gpu (maybe any gpu at all) and no driver support for my newer amd gpu at all.

It honestly feels like how linux used to feel back in the day 😅

I don't think I'm gonna jump ship just yet. The recent ai code fiasco that happened in the linux kernel (race condition, regression, vacation) was averted by the team of talented human developers who reviewed Linus' code. I am choosing to have faith that it will be ok for a while... given there are few alternatives.

That being said, I think I might finally be ready to hop on the fuck-sysyemd train. I was able to look past the megalomaniacal tendencies of the dev because the tools were so convenient, but the AI PRs and code review pushes me over the edge. I am gonna configure a daily driver in Artix soon.

Edit: I should note, FreeBSD also has some AI code issues. But the linux-libre kernel might not. Something like Hyperbola (GNU/Linux-libre) might be more appropriate for someone who is trying to avoid ai code strictly.

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kibiz0r midwest.social kibiz0r@midwest.social
Joined: 2023-07-14
#15 · Quote Reply

Recursive self—emprovement

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Obituarykidney lemmy.world Obituarykidney@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-04
#16 · Quote Reply

5-75 You have been reading much longer haikus than I have 😜

That's how you know that comment isn't ai. No dash.

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marcos lemmy.world marcos@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
#17 · Quote Reply

We have to ride it for long enough so that a microkernel inevitably becomes the better option.

Maybe L4? IDK, but it's something that makes this kind of choice irrelevant.

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floofloof lemmy.ca floofloof@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-16
#18 · Quote Reply

This reads like Haiku

Oh, that reminds me: is Haiku still a slop-free OS?

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Vik lemmy.world vikingtons@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#19 · Quote Reply

I've been using linux for 18 years, but since reviewing the Open Slopware list I've been making a lot of changes. FreeBSD ticks almost every box I need it to. It runs Plasma, it runs Steam/Proton (through a thin compatibility layer that enables a lot of other linux software), it can be set up immutably and has superior containerization natively via jails. It even supports XDG compliance. But th...

can you elaborate on the recent fiasco you mentioned? I totally missed the news on that

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BlonksClown lemmy.world BlonksClown@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-07
#20 · Quote Reply

It’s not just Linux, it’s GNU + Linux

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/home/pineapplelover lemmy.dbzer0.com pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-30
#21 · Quote Reply

It’s not just Linux, it’s GNU + Linux

It says Linux Kernel

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QuantumEraser fedia.io QuantumEraser@fedia.io
Joined: 2026-09-07
#22 · Quote Reply

It’s not just Linux, it’s GNU + Linux

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as GNU + Linux, is in fact, Linux

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grue lemmy.world grue@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#23 · Quote Reply

As an actual human who uses em dashes --- or usually, two or three hyphens that turn into an em dash in Markdown --- I feel personally attacked.

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lobut lemmy.ca lobut@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-13
#24 · Quote Reply

As an actual human who uses em dashes --- or usually, two or three hyphens that turn into an em dash in Markdown --- I feel personally attacked.

aren't those regular dashes? em dashes seem just a bit longer

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Shadow Glider piefed.blahaj.zone Shadow_Glider@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-09
#25 · Quote Reply

It says Linux Kernel

It's a joke about common LLM-gen-AI text patterns

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paraphrand lemmy.world paraphrand@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-12
#26 · (edited) Quote Reply

aren't those regular dashes? em dashes seem just a bit longer

N dashes. They are as wide as an n. M dashes are as wide as an m.

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JusticeForAll lemmy.world JusticeForAll@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-10-26
#27 · Quote Reply

And one solution would be to just turn off all grammar and spell check and let people’s fat fingers and inability to spell let them stand out as the human. Oh boy.

Ya except the internet called everyone grammar nazis for caring.

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rklm lemmy.dbzer0.com rklm@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-02
#28 · Quote Reply

can you elaborate on the recent fiasco you mentioned? I totally missed the news on that

Linus introduced a race condition and a regression with a AI generated code, then handed off fixing the problem to someone else because he was going on vacation.

Fiasco might have been an exaggeration, but it's still pretty lame.

https://lkml.iu.edu/2610.1/13698.html

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Blibittyblah futurology.today Blibittyblah@futurology.today
Joined: 2026-10-25
#29 · Quote Reply

On the plus side, drunk people would have a MUCH harder time starting arguments..

So, I’m guessing you don’t meet too many drunk people…

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Blibittyblah futurology.today Blibittyblah@futurology.today
Joined: 2026-10-25
#30 · Quote Reply

Oh, that reminds me: is Haiku still a slop-free OS?

Slop and driver free

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soupcon lemmy.blahaj.zone soupcon@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-10-12
#31 · (edited) Quote Reply

As an actual human who uses em dashes --- or usually, two or three hyphens that turn into an em dash in Markdown --- I feel personally attacked.
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TrickDacy lemmy.world TrickDacy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-27
#32 · Quote Reply

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No.

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recursive_recursion piefed.ca recursive_recursion@piefed.ca
Joined: 2025-06-06
#33 · (edited) Quote Reply

Linus introduced a race condition and a regression with a AI generated code, then handed off fixing the problem to someone else because he was going on vacation. Fiasco might have been an exaggeration, but it's still pretty lame. https://lkml.iu.edu/2610.1/13698.html

Great
This doesn't make me nervous at all...

Hide_the_Pain_Harold_András_Arató

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TrickDacy lemmy.world TrickDacy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-27
#34 · Quote Reply

Linus introduced a race condition and a regression with a AI generated code, then handed off fixing the problem to someone else because he was going on vacation. Fiasco might have been an exaggeration, but it's still pretty lame. https://lkml.iu.edu/2610.1/13698.html

Not what happened. I'm not digging it up but this story has been debunked repeatedly

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whelk retrolemmy.com whelk@retrolemmy.com
Joined: 2025-06-04
#35 · Quote Reply

Man, I miss when Linux felt like a refuge. It's always been flawed of course but now it feels like everyone in positions of influence are embracing the awful

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abbadon420 sh.itjust.works abbadon420@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-28
#36 · Quote Reply

Soom we'll all be on omarchy

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filcuk feddit.uk filcuk@feddit.uk
Joined: 2026-06-23
#37 · Quote Reply

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Confidently incorrect. Read a book now and then.

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6️⃣9️⃣4️⃣2️⃣0️⃣ lemmy.world 69420@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-28
#38 · Quote Reply

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What does this say about how LLMs plan their sentences?

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𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝙼𝚎𝚘𝚠 programming.dev ChairmanMeow@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-08-16
#39 · Quote Reply

Linus introduced a race condition and a regression with a AI generated code, then handed off fixing the problem to someone else because he was going on vacation. Fiasco might have been an exaggeration, but it's still pretty lame. https://lkml.iu.edu/2610.1/13698.html

This was caught during review, so nothing was "introduced" quite yet. And there's no indication that Linus wouldn't have produced a race condition (a notoriously more easy to miss kind of bug) without the use of AI tools.

It's only being exaggerated so much because he used AI.

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ThirdConsul lemmy.zip ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-01-03
#40 · Quote Reply

Not what happened. I'm not digging it up but this story has been debunked repeatedly

Literally you got hit with an linux mailing list saying this is what happened?

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AwesomeLowlander sh.itjust.works AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-07-12
#41 · (edited) Quote Reply

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Bless your — illiterate — heart.

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Axolotl.cpp lemmy.dbzer0.com Axolotl_cpp@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-10-01
#42 · Quote Reply

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Read a book ✨

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bort sopuli.xyz bort@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2024-02-19
#43 · (edited) Quote Reply

when using a monotype font, shouldnt n and m dashes look the same even?

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14th_cylon lemmy.zip 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-29
#44 · (edited) Quote Reply

when using a monotype font, shouldnt n and m dashes look the same even?

The graphical representation does not matter, they are still different character

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Ooops feddit.org Ooops@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-07-06
#45 · Quote Reply

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Sure. You can totally avoid them. Just by using very basic sentences. The same is true for a lot of puctuation.

But that doesn't make your sentences planned better but is simply a sign of limiting yourself by avoiding any complexity.

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spankysalmon fedinsfw.app spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app
Joined: 2026-02-28
#46 · Quote Reply

So, I’m guessing you don’t meet too many drunk people…

Ypu think I cant spell drunk amd anget huh bitcj!?

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nehal3m lemmy.zip nehal3m@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-04-14
#47 · Quote Reply

Man, I miss when Linux felt like a refuge. It's always been flawed of course but now it feels like everyone in positions of influence are embracing the awful

It’s getting harder to justify the inconvenience of going off the beaten path if that path is turning into the same slop as the commercial ones.

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sudoer777 lemmy.ml sudoer777@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-02-18
#48 · Quote Reply

It says Linux Kernel

🟥 Linux Kernel — CORRECTED: NOT GNU/Linux

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Ooops feddit.org Ooops@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-07-06
#49 · Quote Reply

Recursive self—emprovement

No, that's just using an em dash wrong in the place where a hyphen belongs.

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SapphironZA sh.itjust.works SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-02-24
#50 · Quote Reply

Personally the only part I have seen is documentation is now vibe coded, where in the past, it was autism coded.

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spankysalmon fedinsfw.app spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app
Joined: 2026-02-28
#51 · Quote Reply

N dashes. They are as wide as an n. M dashes are as wide as an m.

But what is em?

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