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ZILtoid1991
lemmy.world
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-16 |
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one_old_coder
piefed.social
one_old_coder@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-08 |
So bad it's art. Cog suckers don't understand that the flaws in the animation makes it more human. I wish I could buy it legally, it's a great movie! |
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TheTechnician27
lemmy.world
TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-07-25 |
Left is a hallucination within a dream that you quickly forget after waking up. Right is a sleep paralysis demon that haunts you on and off for the rest of your life. |
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lobut
lemmy.ca
lobut@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-13 |
I found an article and was gonna quote it to talk about the 100 or so people over two years trying this and then quoting how they were hoping for a blockbuster to spawn more and then joke about how far it fell. However I noticed at the bottom of the article it disclosed that it was written with AI ... so, bleh. |
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Zombie
feddit.uk
Zombie@feddit.uk Joined: 2024-06-01 |
Third AI gen film. |
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BeMoreCareful
lemmy.world
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
I now want to watch a five hundred dollar animated film. |
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π DrRedOctopus ππ
lemmy.world
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-29 |
we don't watch art because it's art, we enjoy art because it's human expression and we are social animals. |
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Imgonnatrythis
sh.itjust.works
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-09-23 |
I now want to watch a five hundred dollar animated film.
I kinda want to invest in one |
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nullspace
lemmy.world
nullspace@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-06-05 |
People will watch slop-like content with poor production value because at least there is intent and purpose. |
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Axolotl.cpp
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Axolotl_cpp@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2026-10-01 |
People will watch slop-like content with poor production value because at least there is intent and purpose.
This shit is also genuinely funny to see sometimes |
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Cornbread
lemmy.blahaj.zone
Googlyman64@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-12-17 |
we don't watch art because it's art, we enjoy art because it's human expression and we are social animals.
i kinda think thats what makes art "art" in the first place. art to me is the intentional expression or evocation of emotion through a medium |
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socsa
piefed.social
socsa@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-08-20 |
Sanxingdui? Three correct paths? Three star pile? Three correct Xings? |
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socsa
piefed.social
socsa@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-08-20 |
we don't watch art because it's art, we enjoy art because it's human expression and we are social animals.
I think there's plenty of cases where neuron activation is a product of pure a aesthetic experience. I think the wrong idea here isn't that AI can make art, but that art is the only form of media humans desire. |
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Joined: 2026-06-19 |
People will watch slop-like content with poor production value because at least there is intent and purpose.
@nullspace @ZILtoid1991 #Sharknado is a prime example. Horrible cheap production but a lot of fans. |
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Rakonat
lemmy.world
Rakonat@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
How the fuck does an AI film cost 1.5 million to make? |
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CookieOfFortune
lemmy.world
CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
The original release of ηζ₯ did not do well, but Chinese netizens discovered it was created by a mother/son duo and rallied behind it. This lead to releases in more theaters and people watching it for support even though it isβ¦ not a good movie. |
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Jiral
lemmy.world
Jiral@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-06-06 |
Hey, some light sci-fi movie on some time travel, astronaut came to ancient civilisations to rescue humanity or something plot: I'd be even up for that. But that AI slop makes my eyes bleed and if the visuals are anything to go by probably the whole story is slopped as well. Isn't it? |
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Spice Hoarder
lemmy.zip
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-29 |
People will watch slop-like content with poor production value because at least there is intent and purpose.
I read that in his voice |
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Spice Hoarder
lemmy.zip
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-29 |
@nullspace @ZILtoid1991 #Sharknado is a prime example. Horrible cheap production but a lot of fans.
Since when did we get hash tags? |
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dusk
piefed.social
dusk@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-10-09 |
Judging by that pic, Niu Lai looks like having a lot of potential as a cult movie for stoners. |
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wonderingwanderer
sopuli.xyz
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-12-31 |
Sanxingdui? Three correct paths? Three star pile? Three correct Xings?
From the characters it looks like it says "three stars piled" |
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bstix
feddit.dk
bstix@feddit.dk Joined: 2023-06-09 |
i kinda think thats what makes art "art" in the first place. art to me is the intentional expression or evocation of emotion through a medium
Ideally, art should express something that words can not. Writing a prompt using words to describe what art to generate is missing the point. |
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Spice Hoarder
lemmy.zip
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-29 |
How the fuck does an AI film cost 1.5 million to make?
Grift |
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Goodlucksil
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-08-15 |
Since when did we get hash tags?
Since #mastodon started federating to #lemmy. You probably didn't notice, but you were answering to a mastodon.social account. |
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Goodlucksil
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-08-15 |
How the fuck does an AI film cost 1.5 million to make?
Tokens are expensive |
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Captain Aggravated
sh.itjust.works
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-20 |
People will watch slop-like content with poor production value because at least there is intent and purpose.
He's married to justice. Because only a blind girl would marry him. |
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socsa
piefed.social
socsa@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-08-20 |
From the characters it looks like it says "three stars piled"
Oh duh I didn't even look at the picture |
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tempest
lemmy.ca
tempest@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-30 |
we don't watch art because it's art, we enjoy art because it's human expression and we are social animals.
Counter point: cocomelon |
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π DrRedOctopus ππ
lemmy.world
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-29 |
Counter point: cocomelon
Humans can make slop as well, ai can only make inhuman slop |
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myyass
lemmy.world
myyass@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-09-02 |
People will watch slop-like content with poor production value because at least there is intent and purpose.
Meatler?! |
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ChicoSuave
lemmy.world
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-12 |
Even crazier is that Niu Lai was made in SketchUp. |
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seathru
quokk.au
seathru@quokk.auJoined: 2025-11-20 |
Meatler?!
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Wirlocke
lemmy.blahaj.zone
Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-07-01 |
we don't watch art because it's art, we enjoy art because it's human expression and we are social animals.
Good time to mention the movie on the right was made by a mother son duo on like no money. They couldn't even make posters for theaters but this just started a trend of theaters drawing their own amateur posters for the showings. A raw example of people creating just for creation's sake. |
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myyass
lemmy.world
myyass@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-09-02 |
Xavier
Heh I know, it was one of the episodes =P |
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uberfreeza
lemmy.world
uberfreeza@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-16 |
When a human makes garbage, it's entertaining because we (or at least I) acknowledge that as part of being human, we make mistakes, interpret thungs differently, and have our own flaws. When a computer makes garbage, that's just what it does. I would much rather every new movie to ever be created be The Room, Troll 2, Birdemic, and every other bad movie than get AI movies. |
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π DrRedOctopus ππ
lemmy.world
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-29 |
Ideally, art should express something that words can not. Writing a prompt using words to describe what art to generate is missing the point.
would consider text a form of art. literature. If you can make a compelling thing to read in a couple sentences, that's great. If you use it as a prompt to write a book, then I rather read the original 2 sentences than waste time with a book that can be summarized in 2 sentences. |
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BarneyPiccolo
lemmy.today
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-30 |
How the fuck does an AI film cost 1.5 million to make?
It's the Money Laundering part. |
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LiveLM
lemmy.zip
LiveLM@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-07-12 |
How the fuck does an AI film cost 1.5 million to make?
Set goal: Make movie. Commit no mistakes. Let it burn for months??? |
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bstix
feddit.dk
bstix@feddit.dk Joined: 2023-06-09 |
would consider text a form of art. literature. If you can make a compelling thing to read in a couple sentences, that's great. If you use it as a prompt to write a book, then I rather read the original 2 sentences than waste time with a book that can be summarized in 2 sentences.
Yes, poetry can be art too, but that's because the use of the words creates meaningful associations to something that expresses more than the words themselves describe. AI reads the prompt the same way that we read poetry and then delivers its attempts to describe the associations that it learned. At best, AI could recreate the role of a really obnoxious poetry critic, but it will never be the artist. |
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Riverview_Legal
lemmy.ca
Riverview_Legal@lemmy.ca Joined: 2024-03-28 |
Even crazier is that Niu Lai was made in SketchUp. https://youtu.be/p-5N4hdfGOE
After watching this, I am more convinced than ever that cultures all have same the qualities. Chinese audiences celebrating it's so bad it's good of Niu La is the same as American audiences doing the same thing with the Room. |
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bryndos
fedia.io
bryndos@fedia.io Joined: 2025-07-28 |
would consider text a form of art. literature. If you can make a compelling thing to read in a couple sentences, that's great. If you use it as a prompt to write a book, then I rather read the original 2 sentences than waste time with a book that can be summarized in 2 sentences.
I reckon, the medium of literature is probably more like the author or reader's (shared?) imagination, the words are just the chisel used to shape what you imagine, and if it works you get something like the experience they wanted. The ai can copy the tools, but does it think about how it is shaping your imagination with them? I doubt, probably not current LLMs, only in as far as they might choose to plagiarise work of someone who had some vision, but how can we know? I mean, thatβs basically what Shakespeare did with his monkey farm, isn't it? Or did he sell that to Jorge Luis Borges to fill the worlds most useless library? Same is probably true of an art photograph, you'd think flock, or google street cams , or anpr cams would create loads of art photos. But they're not aiming to captures something extra that isn't technically in the image (feelings, mood, , culture ) but that the audience can read into it, based on style, lighting , colouring or context. |
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psx_crab
lemmy.zip
psx_crab@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-01-11 |
Sanxingdui? Three correct paths? Three star pile? Three correct Xings?
Probably 3 star pile, like the rating 3 out of 100. Also apparently it's an actual archaeological site of the same name in China of a culture in bronze age. Site is called Three Star Mound |
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heartSagan5
lemmy.zip
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-05-27 |
After watching this, I am more convinced than ever that cultures all have same the qualities. Chinese audiences celebrating it's so bad it's good of Niu La is the same as American audiences doing the same thing with the Room.
Imperfect and flawed is human. This AI crap is a facscimile at best; it has no heart. |
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underscores
lemmy.zip
underscores@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-05 |
People will watch slop-like content with poor production value because at least there is intent and purpose.
it was yooo hoo killed me ! |
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Equinox1289
sh.itjust.works
Equinox1289@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-05-14 |
Yes, poetry can be art too, but that's because the use of the words creates meaningful associations to something that expresses more than the words themselves describe. AI reads the prompt the same way that we read poetry and then delivers its attempts to describe the associations that it learned. At best, AI could recreate the role of a really obnoxious poetry critic, but it will never be the artist.
Yeah, LLMs cannot learn and that is fundamental to their base algorithms of diffusion and backpropagation. Instead, they can only be trained to asymptotically approach human communication thru the use of latent space, a method of algorithmically abstracting concepts. They can only ever combine concepts they have been trained on, but cannot continue to build upon those compositions like actual artists do. |
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Wispy2891
lemmy.world
Wispy2891@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-13 |
How the fuck does an AI film cost 1.5 million to make?
Because you need to prompt 500 times to get one scene the way you wanted For example "the 8 bit guy" on YouTube got an existential crisis and made an awful "movie" and in the behind the scenes he complained that he had to prompt like 30 times per scene and chose the better of the worst to create his unwatchable abomination If someone wants to watch his 50 minutes of mashed up slop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ7j7XIW1zo |
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techt
lemmy.world
techt@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-02 |
Because you need to prompt 500 times to get one scene the way you wanted For example "the 8 bit guy" on YouTube got an existential crisis and made an awful "movie" and in the behind the scenes he complained that he had to prompt like 30 times per scene and chose the better of the worst to create his unwatchable abomination If someone wants to watch his 50 minutes of mashed up slop: https://www....
Solid. |
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nullpotential
lemmy.dbzer0.com
nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-11-14 |
Things aren't looking up for Cool Cat Topia. |
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ZILtoid1991
lemmy.world
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-16 |
How the fuck does an AI film cost 1.5 million to make?
The compute cost would be more, but a lot of it is getting the AI to generate something semi-passable, which the AI is not designed for. It is instead designed like a slot machine. But let's assume it had the ability to generate not only semi-passable slop, but real art. It would require a lot more interactions than just prompting, and that would immediately take away the power fantasy of AI bros being able to feel like Steve Jobs or any other CEO, who were called "creators" for being nothing more than the idea guys. |
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