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ummthatguy lemmy.world ummthatguy@lemmy.world
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Enough time has passed that the 1st episode from season 4 of Strange New Worlds is now open for memery goodness. Episode 2 "The Griffin Incident" on the 30th, just in time for Hallow Hemmer-ween!

TNG s6e16 "Starship Mine" aka "Star Trek Does a Die Hard" and SNW s4e1 "Valles Marineris"

Edit: Season 6 of TNG, not 7

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A_Union_of_Kobolds lemmy.world A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
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Well theyre not gonna ride their subordinates 🤷‍♂️

At least Sisko and Janeway had good old fashioned working class hobbies (baseball and coffee)

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Archangel1313 lemmy.ca Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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What I want to know is, why is everyone obsessed with old black and white era films? They sucked...but apparently in the future, they're still considered "classics of cinema". Like nothing between then and the future has been able to improve on that campy, overacted garbage?

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ummthatguy Moderator ummthatguy@lemmy.world
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Well theyre not gonna ride their subordinates 🤷‍♂️ At least Sisko and Janeway had good old fashioned working class hobbies (baseball and coffee)

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ummthatguy Moderator ummthatguy@lemmy.world
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What I want to know is, why is everyone obsessed with old black and white era films? They sucked...but apparently in the future, they're still considered "classics of cinema". Like nothing between then and the future has been able to improve on that campy, overacted garbage?

Eh, there's legitimate reasons that Casablanca still sits up there on most lists.

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LillyPip lemmy.ca LillyPip@lemmy.ca
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BooBees fedinsfw.app BooBees@fedinsfw.app
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What I want to know is, why is everyone obsessed with old black and white era films? They sucked...but apparently in the future, they're still considered "classics of cinema". Like nothing between then and the future has been able to improve on that campy, overacted garbage?

It’s like everything else you don’t like - some of it is because you can recognize something is terribly made, some of it is because you werent trained or brought up in a way or time that let you appreciate the art for what it was in its original context. I hated bw films until my 40s, and I didn’t grow to like many of them out of nostalgia for the most part, I grew to enjoy them because I studied and participated in film making and learned how to view them, learned how they’re made, how to understand the language of film makers, and that unlocked an ability and willingness to enjoy them.

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bitteroldcoot piefed.social bitteroldcoot@piefed.social
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Probably just horsing around.

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Whelks_chance lemmy.world Whelks_chance@lemmy.world
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What's the largest thing they can replicate?

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TotallyNotSpez lemmy.world AbsolutelyNotSpez@lemmy.world
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Eh, there's legitimate reasons that Casablanca still sits up there on most lists.

Buster Keaton movies are also still a great watch these days.

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nightwatch_admin lemmy.world nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world
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Or, with a touch of mr. Bester, The Coffee is Mother, The Coffee is Father.

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ummthatguy Moderator ummthatguy@lemmy.world
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#12 · (edited) Quote Reply

Buster Keaton movies are also still a great watch these days.

From the time before safety standards, many of which were made because of his antics. But yes, love his work.

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ummthatguy Moderator ummthatguy@lemmy.world
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What's the largest thing they can replicate?

There are industrial replicators, only ever shown on Prodigy.

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cattywampas lemmy.world cattywampas@lemmy.world
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What I want to know is, why is everyone obsessed with old black and white era films? They sucked...but apparently in the future, they're still considered "classics of cinema". Like nothing between then and the future has been able to improve on that campy, overacted garbage?

Same with music. Everyone loves classical and opera from the 19th century and earlier. You're telling me not one member of the Enterprise crew got down on some Beatles or Pink Floyd?

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SpaceNoodle lemmy.world SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
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Same with music. Everyone loves classical and opera from the 19th century and earlier. You're telling me not one member of the Enterprise crew got down on some Beatles or Pink Floyd?

It's canon that Kirk loved the Beastie Boys

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b34k lemmy.world b34k@lemmy.world
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That’s not the captain, that’s Mott, the barber.

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Sundray lemmus.org sundray@lemmus.org
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Because you never know when you'll get the call.

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DarkCloud lemmy.world DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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If Brave Worlds... Or Strange World's is set in TOS times, the walls should really be greenish with rainbow lighting. That set they're on looks anachronistic, and a little CGI.

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ummthatguy Moderator ummthatguy@lemmy.world
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That’s not the captain, that’s Mott, the barber.

I'm always getting those 2 mixed up.

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BasedMaquisEddington lemmy.dbzer0.com BasedMaquisEddington@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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What I want to know is, why is everyone obsessed with old black and white era films? They sucked...but apparently in the future, they're still considered "classics of cinema". Like nothing between then and the future has been able to improve on that campy, overacted garbage?

I felt that way too until I took a cinema class for easy gen ed credits.

Some Like It Hot is surprisingly, genuinely funny after all this time. High Noon is probably timeless.

But ya many “classics” are garbage. We don’t need to slog through Lawrence of Arabia ever again.

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A_Union_of_Kobolds lemmy.world A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
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Same with music. Everyone loves classical and opera from the 19th century and earlier. You're telling me not one member of the Enterprise crew got down on some Beatles or Pink Floyd?

Missed opportunity with Tom Paris, supposedly a huge 20th century junkie but all he cared about was cars and pulp sci-fi

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cattywampas lemmy.world cattywampas@lemmy.world
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It's canon that Kirk loved the Beastie Boys

One version of him anyway. Thanks, movie production budgets!

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arotrios kbin.earth arotrios@kbin.earth
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Clearly no one here is familiar with the last phase of Klingon mating rituals, in which you saddle your dominated mate and ride them into battle as a final declaration of your vows. After the battle is won and the vows consummated, one of the pair heads back into battle, while the other lovingly cares for the saddle as a symbol of their eternal blood bond.

Clearly Picard is caring for Worf's saddle, but who's the mystery warrior in Pike's life?

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thefluffiest feddit.nl thefluffiest@feddit.nl
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It’s perfectly normal. You know, most serious riders do have their own saddles.

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usernamefactory lemmy.ca usernamefactory@lemmy.ca
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It's canon that Kirk loved the Beastie Boys

And clearly, Chekov was a Beatles fan.

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ummthatguy Moderator ummthatguy@lemmy.world
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Clearly no one here is familiar with the last phase of Klingon mating rituals, in which you saddle your dominated mate and ride them into battle as a final declaration of your vows. After the battle is won and the vows consummated, one of the pair heads back into battle, while the other lovingly cares for the saddle as a symbol of their eternal blood bond. Clearly Picard is caring for Worf's sa...

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quediuspayu lemmy.dbzer0.com quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Same with music. Everyone loves classical and opera from the 19th century and earlier. You're telling me not one member of the Enterprise crew got down on some Beatles or Pink Floyd?

All that became lost media during the copyright troll wars of the late 21st century.

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ummthatguy Moderator ummthatguy@lemmy.world
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#28 · Quote Reply

It’s perfectly normal. You know, most serious riders do have their own saddles.

Pictured: serious riders

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arotrios kbin.earth arotrios@kbin.earth
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#29 · Quote Reply

None

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thefluffiest feddit.nl thefluffiest@feddit.nl
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#30 · Quote Reply

Pictured: serious riders

Lacking saddles, it seems

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Ceruleum lemmy.wtf Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf
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When they run out of shuttles they revert back to horses.

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ummthatguy Moderator ummthatguy@lemmy.world
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#32 · Quote Reply

And clearly, Chekov was a Beatles fan.

Somehow not the Monkees.

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Archangel1313 lemmy.ca Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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#33 · Quote Reply

Buster Keaton movies are also still a great watch these days.

Ok. You got me there. Those really are "classics".

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Jay lemmy.ca Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca
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#34 · Quote Reply

Because to be a Captain you have balance when it's time to be serious and when it's time to horse around.

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FuglyDuck lemmy.world FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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#35 · (edited) Quote Reply

What's the largest thing they can replicate?

if an engineer was even remotely clever, it would be a trivial, if tedious matter to replicate entire starships. there's absolutely no reason that the Enterprise or any other SF ship could use replication technology to regenerate the same way borg cubes do.

Even ignoring that application, you could still build a replication platform in space and just nudge things out of the build envelope for an infinite-z type set up, building off the end. at which point you would only be constrained by physical material limits, supplying the energy/matter necessary; and the X-Y size of the build envelope. and lets be clear, there's no reason they can't 'tile' the envelope to expand that as necessary. As for the resources necessary, park an asteroid off the other face of the platform and convert that to energy to power and supply the fabrication station.

Replicators are one of the things they never really thought all they way through. it was a TNG-era answer to explain away some tedium. but seriously. Imagine a federation ship equipped with a quantum singularity core instead of relying on antimatter. Voyager would have been trivial. Even if you don't want to power your ship with a blackhole, you could use some inert super-dense material to store the energy as mass, and that energy density would likely be way better than the antimater/matter reactors.

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OberonSwanson sh.itjust.works OberonSwanson@sh.itjust.works
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#36 · Quote Reply

Because to be a Captain you have balance when it's time to be serious and when it's time to horse around.

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usernamefactory lemmy.ca usernamefactory@lemmy.ca
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#37 · Quote Reply

Somehow not the Monkees.

Well, the Monkees were American, while the Beatles were clearly a Russian Inwention.

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CapuccinoCoretto lemmy.world CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world
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#38 · Quote Reply

Lacking saddles, it seems

They had something else to strap on, but it wasn't TV friendly at the time.

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crandall lemmy.today crandall@lemmy.today
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#39 · Quote Reply

It’s perfectly normal. You know, most serious riders do have their own saddles.

Glad someone said it

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crandall lemmy.today crandall@lemmy.today
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#40 · Quote Reply

SNW one was just an homage to Picard

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grue lemmy.world grue@lemmy.world
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if an engineer was even remotely clever, it would be a trivial, if tedious matter to replicate entire starships. there's absolutely no reason that the Enterprise or any other SF ship could use replication technology to regenerate the same way borg cubes do. Even ignoring that application, you could still build a replication platform in space and just nudge things out of the build envelope for a...

Imagine a federation ship equipped with a quantum singularity core instead of relying on antimatter.

Found the secret Romulan

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ummthatguy Moderator ummthatguy@lemmy.world
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#42 · (edited) Quote Reply

SNW one was just an homage to Picard

He also rides a horse in the first episode, when he'd first retired and had a scraggly beard.

Edit: Pike's love of horses was established in the first pilot during one of the illusion scenes.

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samus12345 sh.itjust.works samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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#43 · (edited) Quote Reply

Jonathan Frakes was the only one in the same room as both those saddles!

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Maxxus sh.itjust.works Maxxus@sh.itjust.works
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I’d bet dollars to donuts you could trace horseback riding recurring throughout the series to DeForest Kelley. DeForest was a well established actor in the Western genre before his role in Star Trek. And at a certain point he was getting screwed on the royalties of the Star Trek films, so William and Leonard pushed to get him a producer credit on the next film. That film also had a camping in wilderness tribute to DeForest at the beginning. I think the first horse scenes were Kirk and then Kirk and Picard.

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ummthatguy Moderator ummthatguy@lemmy.world
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#45 · (edited) Quote Reply

I’d bet dollars to donuts you could trace horseback riding recurring throughout the series to DeForest Kelley. DeForest was a well established actor in the Western genre before his role in Star Trek. And at a certain point he was getting screwed on the royalties of the Star Trek films, so William and Leonard pushed to get him a producer credit on the next film. That film also had a camping in w...

While I don't doubt Kelly's influence further down the line, credits to navy beans horses were a passion of Gene's from the get go.

Not to mention, Bones wasn't in "The Cage."

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Maxxus sh.itjust.works Maxxus@sh.itjust.works
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#46 · (edited) Quote Reply

While I don't doubt Kelly's influence further down the line, credits to navy beans horses were a passion of Gene's from the get go. Not to mention, Bones wasn't in "The Cage."

I know shamefully little about Gene, so that makes sense too if he was a horse guy.

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Ganbat lemmy.dbzer0.com Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#47 · Quote Reply

Picard looks like a kid at show-and-tell.

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ummthatguy Moderator ummthatguy@lemmy.world
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#48 · Quote Reply

Picard looks like a kid at show-and-tell.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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Or, with a touch of mr. Bester, The Coffee is Mother, The Coffee is Father.

janeway doesnt need to ride horses, her coffee makes her move faster than one.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#50 · (edited) Quote Reply

Imagine a federation ship equipped with a quantum singularity core instead of relying on antimatter. Found the secret Romulan

except romulans still need to feed the black hole with some kind of material, so its not a true blackhole that can be used to generate power indefinitely, like in stargate. apparently thier power source is less efficient than federation warp cores.

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OwlPaste lemmy.world OwlPaste@lemmy.world
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um... I have forgotten my klingon... <3

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