I get that voting will elect a Congress that won’t do stupid shit like this. I already voted.

But even if the Dems win most of the elections next week, what can they actually do to stop this? It’s been passed as a law, so ostensibly they’d need Trump’s signature on a bill they pass or 2/3 vote in both houses to overturn it.

And even if they win tremendously outperform the polls they won’t have 2/3 majority and Trump won’t sign anything from them.

So while I agree voting is necessary it is not sufficient to stop this. That vote had to happen two years ago, and we need to help people who will be without insurance by 2027 regardless of if we voted.

(Cue infighting about the vote two years ago.)

It really is a spectacularly awful form of government. After all, it’s the best humans can come up with.

California has Prop 40.

I called my insurance, it’s nationwide. States have no say.

what ti comes down to is how bad teh republicans lose. Some might cross the isle if they lose seats that were supposed to be safe.

I suppose the idea now is that you prevent further massive cuts to the programs. We certainly won't get a return to what they were in 2024, but I guarantee another GOP congress would bleed out these programs like they were a pregnant mistress. It's like their second favorite thing to do after harassing minorities and attacking women's rights

I can think of exactly once when a Republican crossed the aisle to do something good.

And he’s dead now.

Yeah, I get that. But OP’s pitch of “we need to vote to stop this” is just wrong.

We need to build a time machine to stop this.

I think overselling what votes can actually do makes people less likely to vote.

Prop 40 is about state funding, not national enrollment

yeah its a long shot before they realized they just needed an absolutely loyal core base of nuts and then they just need to bamboozle a good portion of the rest. I firmly believe a decade or two of losing would change them quite a bit if they survived.

It’s not about funding. It’s about what qualifies you to be able to have it. If you’re unable to work the required hours, and aren’t in the list of exemptions- you get no insurance.

Do you not know that laws can be overturned? It can be stopped.

It’s not about funding

Increased state funding would allow California to extend benefits in excess of what the Feds allow.

It’s about qualifying man. You won’t qualify for it regardless of funding.

California can operate benefits in parallel

Do you know what it takes to overturn a law? This cannot be stopped before it comes into force.

Do you not know that laws can be overturned?

Presumably Trump would be able to veto that.

But the moment it’s stopped, so too, does the millions of denials as a result.

QUALIFYING. Are you purposely ignoring this? They will be denied because they don’t qualify. Prop 40 has no say in this. It’s at the federal level. Call your insurance and ask them.

And they are unwilling to charge him with treason, and spend the last few decades giving the president as much power as possible.

Is that the case? Can Congress stop a law from coming into force without passing an additional law that requires the president or 2/3 majority?

I’m asking because politics has stupid rules that don’t make sense and I hate it.

And if it’s overturned later, can they back date those rejections so people don’t die from lack of coverage?

Again: We need a time machine to fix this.

I think they've done the calculation. the people who vote are either healthy, have insurance, or have drunk the coolaid.

they won't win votes with this. so why not make money ... 🙄

They can charge him with treason all they want. Without 2/3 of the Senate they can’t do anything about it.

And even then it’s questionable.

Okay man… so do nothing. Enjoy the outcome.

Bro I already voted.

That will not stop this.

Stop telling people it will.

"Overturning" is done by the judiciary. "Repealing" is what's done by the legislature.

No law is permanent.

Believe whatever tucks you in at night.

Historically, there are a few potential levers available to a unified Congress that are immune/mostly-immune to veto:

Edit: use spoilers for details

Enroll in an educational program at least half-time

Sounds like we need a free educational program everyone can join.

I wonder what the requirements for the program are

Also what about self employed people?

Just to clarify, this law becomes active January 1st. The new congress doesn't get sworn in until January 3rd.

As others have stated, it's being projected that Dems take back the House and possibly the Senate, which could see a new law get signed in that reappropriates funds back into social safety net programs, though it then goes to the dipshit in command for a signature. If he vetoes, it'll require 2/3rds of both chambers of Congress to override, which is a much taller order.

So as you are stating, people need to realize what's fully at stake and vote. There is a pathway to some form of normalcy, 2/3rds is .... possible.

It can be overturned in 2028, and congress can delay bills. It happens all the time.

This. Classic too little too late.