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cm0002
no.lastname.nz
cm0002@no.lastname.nz Joined: 2025-11-13 |
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mercano
lemmy.world
mercano@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-18 |
If the download is 210 GB, I hate to think what the install size will be after everything is unzipped. |
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tacosanonymous
lemmy.blahaj.zone
tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2026-07-31 |
Jbfc |
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CompGenius
lemmy.world
CompGenius@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-30 |
I know this may sound ignorant to modern game development, but do we optimize anymore? I know storage is not an issue most developers worry about these days, but God. I don't like to play the old card, because I'm by no means "old", but I remember when I wanted to install a game, I had to choose what I needed to uninstall first. A game being 500MB to 1GB was mind boggling. |
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Dyskolos
lemmy.zip
Dyskolos@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-10-01 |
A "news" telling people the download-size of some game...wow. And it's slightly bigger than other AAA. Astonishing. Download-siizes rose for the last 3 decades, who would have ever expected that... |
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chicken
lemmy.dbzer0.com
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-30 |
A "news" telling people the download-size of some game...wow. And it's slightly bigger than other AAA. Astonishing. Download-siizes rose for the last 3 decades, who would have ever expected that...
Yeah but until recently that tracked the decreasing cost of storage, so you might think devs would be prioritizing lower filesizes now |
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Dyskolos
lemmy.zip
Dyskolos@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-10-01 |
Yeah but until recently that tracked the decreasing cost of storage, so you might think devs would be prioritizing lower filesizes now
Compared to the 3000,- a 20MB drive cost said decades ago, storage is cheap π |
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FridaVermercury
discuss.tchncs.de
FridaVanMercury@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2026-09-16 |
I know this may sound ignorant to modern game development, but do we optimize anymore? I know storage is not an issue most developers worry about these days, but God. I don't like to play the old card, because I'm by no means "old", but I remember when I wanted to install a game, I had to choose what I needed to uninstall first. A game being 500MB to 1GB was mind boggling.
Given prices of hardware these days devs should definitely be better at this. |
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filcuk
feddit.uk
filcuk@feddit.uk Joined: 2026-06-23 |
I know this may sound ignorant to modern game development, but do we optimize anymore? I know storage is not an issue most developers worry about these days, but God. I don't like to play the old card, because I'm by no means "old", but I remember when I wanted to install a game, I had to choose what I needed to uninstall first. A game being 500MB to 1GB was mind boggling.
On consoles, developers still duplicate assets for HDD optimization (faster loading, more storage). Often they don't bother to 'fix' that for PC when ported. |
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Seralth
piefed.seralth.com
Seralth@piefed.seralth.comJoined: 2026-10-04 |
If the download is 210 GB, I hate to think what the install size will be after everything is unzipped.
Likely around 280-300 gigs. Most games don't unpack their files nowadays. They decompress them on the fly. So the install size tends to not be that much bigger then the download. Even still that's like a third of a ps5s storage iirc If they unpack things more for the pc release tho... It could readily balloon to almost a terabyte if they wanted to be assholes. |
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boonhet
lemmy.zip
boonhet@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-08-12 |
On consoles, developers still duplicate assets for HDD optimization (faster loading, more storage). Often they don't bother to 'fix' that for PC when ported.
Current gen consoles have NVMe thankfully so that bullshit is now obsolete at least |
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boonhet
lemmy.zip
boonhet@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-08-12 |
I know this may sound ignorant to modern game development, but do we optimize anymore? I know storage is not an issue most developers worry about these days, but God. I don't like to play the old card, because I'm by no means "old", but I remember when I wanted to install a game, I had to choose what I needed to uninstall first. A game being 500MB to 1GB was mind boggling.
They throw in massive poly count models with high resolution textures and ever bigger game worlds, then (on PC) let you scale down the quality. Only real solution is having high res textures as a separate download which some games do but if the console can handle them anyway, there's less reason, compared to PC where you might have a lower end graphics card that can't handle 4K textures anyway |
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boonhet
lemmy.zip
boonhet@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-08-12 |
Compared to the 3000,- a 20MB drive cost said decades ago, storage is cheap π But you say that as if the big studios care about such things. People will pay full price (or probably higher) anyway. Even if it'd be 1TB download.
Yeah but compared to 1.5 years ago, storage is up 2x at least. Even HDDs are more expensive than same size NVME SSDs used to be, it seems. |
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filcuk
feddit.uk
filcuk@feddit.uk Joined: 2026-06-23 |
Current gen consoles have NVMe thankfully so that bullshit is now obsolete at least
I stand corrected! |
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Joined: 2023-06-09 |
On consoles, developers still duplicate assets for HDD optimization (faster loading, more storage). Often they don't bother to 'fix' that for PC when ported.
The PS5 was supposed to have fixed that duplication issue with it's SSD and how data from it is retrieved and cached |
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jeff
lemmy.zip
jeff@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-06-15 |
I'm not buying it and most of my existing games are 40gb or smaller. Many of my games are actually under 20gb |
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the16bitgamer
programming.dev
the16bitgamer@programming.devJoined: 2023-06-16 |
The more and more I learn about GTA 6 the less and less I want to play it. I do hope it is fun for those who want to play it, this is no longer my cup of tea. |
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Dyskolos
lemmy.zip
Dyskolos@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-10-01 |
Yeah but compared to 1.5 years ago, storage is up 2x at least. Even HDDs are more expensive than same size NVME SSDs used to be, it seems.
Everything is closing in at 2x of 1.5yrs ago, so what? Besides, my initial post explicitly said "last 3 decades", so the reference frame was fitting. Despite not being totally serious... |
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NigelFrobisher
aussie.zone
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone Joined: 2023-08-07 |
Do you still drive somewhere then do some basic snap-to-aim from cover shooting and then drive some more? Is cousin Roman back? |
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glimse
lemmy.world
glimse@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
Yeah but until recently that tracked the decreasing cost of storage, so you might think devs would be prioritizing lower filesizes now
Can't believe I'm defending Rockstar here but... ...it's been in development for over a decade. How would they have planned around this recent surge in prices |
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DupaCycki
lemmy.world
DupaCycki@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-08-17 |
That's about a third of a base PS5's drive. Technically it's 850GB, but only around 650 is usable, as shown in the console's storage settings. |
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M137
lemmy.today
M137@lemmy.todayJoined: 2026-04-17 |
Likely around 280-300 gigs. Most games don't unpack their files nowadays. They decompress them on the fly. So the install size tends to not be that much bigger then the download. Even still that's like a third of a ps5s storage iirc If they unpack things more for the pc release tho... It could readily balloon to almost a terabyte if they wanted to be assholes.
than* |
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Yggnar
lemmy.world
Yggnar@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
A "news" telling people the download-size of some game...wow. And it's slightly bigger than other AAA. Astonishing. Download-siizes rose for the last 3 decades, who would have ever expected that...
When you consider the fact that Rockstar has made it clear they aren't putting this out on a disc, and the PlayStation hard drive can be as little as 1TB, this is definitely news worth discussing. They're asking for one fourth of your entire storage space if you're a PlayStation player. |
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possumparty
lemmy.blahaj.zone
possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-06-05 |
That's about a third of a base PS5's drive. Technically it's 850GB, but only around 650 is usable, as shown in the console's storage settings.
why is their shovelware os 200ish gb |
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possumparty
lemmy.blahaj.zone
possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-06-05 |
I'm not buying it and most of my existing games are 40gb or smaller. Many of my games are actually under 20gb
okay ππ» |
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crystalmathadept
lemmy.zip
crystalmathadept@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-08-15 |
Do you still drive somewhere then do some basic snap-to-aim from cover shooting and then drive some more? Is cousin Roman back?
Most accurate description of single player offline |
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Sina
beehaw.org
Sina@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-07-02 |
In an ideal world the studios would care & you could optionally not download high-rez textures, immediately cutting the download in half, or less than. |
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Dyskolos
lemmy.zip
Dyskolos@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-10-01 |
When you consider the fact that Rockstar has made it clear they aren't putting this out on a disc, and the PlayStation hard drive can be as little as 1TB, this is definitely news worth discussing. They're asking for one fourth of your entire storage space if you're a PlayStation player.
And you think they give a rat's ass about your Playstation-storage? :-) So. Will you buy it? if yes, then what are you even talking about? If no, then welcome to the boat, where is the actual problem? When I will maybe buy this in 3-7yrs, i would not care for the 0,2tb it wants anymore. I would not care today, but that's not really the point. |
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Undearius
lemmy.ca
Undearius@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-06-05 |
Can't believe I'm defending Rockstar here but... ...it's been in development for over a decade. How would they have planned around this recent surge in prices
They could have spent that last year or two optimizing the game. But considering it took some random person on the internet to reverse-engineer the code for GTA V to figure out why online loading times took so long, an issue they left alone for years, I doubt they even spent a minute trying to get file size down. |
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BjΓΆrn
swg-empire.de
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deJoined: 2023-07-08 |
I know this may sound ignorant to modern game development, but do we optimize anymore? I know storage is not an issue most developers worry about these days, but God. I don't like to play the old card, because I'm by no means "old", but I remember when I wanted to install a game, I had to choose what I needed to uninstall first. A game being 500MB to 1GB was mind boggling.
Ugh, installing World of Xeen was tough. Needed to free up a whopping 50 MB of space or so. But at least the install of Darkside of Xeen had some dancing stick figures you could look at while swapping floppies. |
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Herbal Gamer
sh.itjust.works
HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-10-30 |
I know this may sound ignorant to modern game development, but do we optimize anymore? I know storage is not an issue most developers worry about these days, but God. I don't like to play the old card, because I'm by no means "old", but I remember when I wanted to install a game, I had to choose what I needed to uninstall first. A game being 500MB to 1GB was mind boggling.
Add to that the fact that they all need SSD's so whatever HDD storage you have is useless now. |
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flameleaf
lemmy.zip
flameleaf@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-12-08 |
I'm not buying it and most of my existing games are 40gb or smaller. Many of my games are actually under 20gb
The only game I have installed right now that's over 20GB is Team Fortress 2 |
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87Six
lemmy.zip
87Six@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-09-19 |
Are they just shipping the whole fucking dev project or what the fuck? Christ |
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joeschmoe
lemmy.world
joeschmoe@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-10 |
The more and more I learn about GTA 6 the less and less I want to play it. I do hope it is fun for those who want to play it, this is no longer my cup of tea.
Same. Besides, it will probably only act as a vehicle to sell GTA: Online, more precisely, shark cards. To me, this isn't more than already shipping the assets for GTA:O. They showed that they don't care about singleplayer. Not a single SP DLC came for 5, can't even use all the GTA:O cars in SP w/o a trainer. |
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joeschmoe
lemmy.world
joeschmoe@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-10 |
GTA 6? Ah, the preload for the GTA:Online, because that's what they ultimately care about: selling shark cards. |
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