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ruuster13 lemmy.zip ruuster13@lemmy.zip
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frazw lemmy.world frazw@lemmy.world
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Erm i think Arnie might have beaten them to the punch...

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Gladaed feddit.org Gladaed@feddit.org
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Male usually refers to biological sex. This is why you should use neither male nor female to refer to anyone or anything unless you explicitly mean just that.

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Might be my least favourite storyline. What happened to him was fucking traumatic, but he's a dude so it's funny, hurhurhur. Wtf.

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ruuster13 lemmy.zip ruuster13@lemmy.zip
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Male usually refers to biological sex. This is why you should use neither male nor female to refer to anyone or anything unless you explicitly mean just that.

Trip is a cis man and the first male human to become pregnant... a biological curiosity!

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ruuster13 lemmy.zip ruuster13@lemmy.zip
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Might be my least favourite storyline. What happened to him was fucking traumatic, but he's a dude so it's funny, hurhurhur. Wtf.

It's not a topic for levity in my all-gay fantasy universe; it's a scientific imperative! Also it happened to Deanna Troi.

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It's not a topic for levity in my all-gay fantasy universe; it's a scientific imperative! Also it happened to Deanna Troi.

That also was handled suboptimally but at least other characters didn't laugh at Troi.

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Gladaed feddit.org Gladaed@feddit.org
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Trip is a cis man and the first male human to become pregnant... a biological curiosity!

Still feels like you are struggling with saying a simple thing by using hyper specific language that excludes where it is not necessary or helpful.

Why not say "Trip is the first human male to get pregnant naturally." Them being a cis man or beeb boob 🤖 doesn't matter.

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ruuster13 lemmy.zip ruuster13@lemmy.zip
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Still feels like you are struggling with saying a simple thing by using hyper specific language that excludes where it is not necessary or helpful. Why not say "Trip is the first human male to get pregnant naturally." Them being a cis man or beeb boob 🤖 doesn't matter.

The quote from the show uses "male" which is outdated sex-based language. My caption uses the more modern gender-based "man." I used "cis" to help clear up the confusion because he is not trans.

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hOrni lemmy.world hOrni@lemmy.world
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I don't remember that episode. Which is it?

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FuglyDuck lemmy.world FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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I don't remember that episode. Which is it?

S1E5, "Unexpected".

The general plot goes that The Enterprise started have random system failures, they eventually found were being caused by a ship riding in their wake because they had some malfunction.

After some back and forth, Enterprise sends Tucker over to help fix things, and Tucker kinda sort of gets hot for the engineer lady that's taking care of him. (apparently he's into electric-eel-people who feed him jello-water.) At one point they went to a holodeck where she has him on a row boat with a sunset and whips out this "game" they play.

it's ths bowl of glass marble looking things that they both put their hands in, that lets the other person read their mind.

After that, Tucker goes back to the Enterprise, only to find out that he's got nipples growing on his wrist and the "game" was their version of sex. they have a short window of time to find them before the pregnancy can't be transferred to someone else.

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The quote from the show uses "male" which is outdated sex-based language. My caption uses the more modern gender-based "man." I used "cis" to help clear up the confusion because he is not trans.

They are two different things and 'male/female' is not outdated language what so ever.

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Wataba sh.itjust.works Wataba@sh.itjust.works
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That also was handled suboptimally but at least other characters didn't laugh at Troi.

No, they just made her sit at the far end of the table while they discussed options without asking her.

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The quote from the show uses "male" which is outdated sex-based language. My caption uses the more modern gender-based "man." I used "cis" to help clear up the confusion because he is not trans.

in what world is "male" outdated? It refers to the biological sex, defined by your genome. Being a trans man does not magically make you male, just a man. Sex and gender are two separate things

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ruuster13 lemmy.zip ruuster13@lemmy.zip
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in what world is "male" outdated? It refers to the biological sex, defined by your genome. Being a trans man does not magically make you male, just a man. Sex and gender are two separate things

It's outdated to use male as a noun.

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limelight79 lemmy.world limelight79@lemmy.world
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S1E5, "Unexpected". The general plot goes that The Enterprise started have random system failures, they eventually found were being caused by a ship riding in their wake because they had some malfunction. After some back and forth, Enterprise sends Tucker over to help fix things, and Tucker kinda sort of gets hot for the engineer lady that's taking care of him. (apparently he's into electric-ee...

T'Pol was furious at him for it, too. That always struck me. Their relationship didn't start until the 3rd season, but her reaction here is strong.

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MaggiWuerze feddit.org MaggiWuerze@feddit.org
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It's outdated to use male as a noun.

No it's not. It's a scientific term, completely unimpressed by current politics

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ruuster13 lemmy.zip ruuster13@lemmy.zip
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No it's not. It's a scientific term, completely unimpressed by current politics

If only the social world adhered to science. We would all understand that trans men are men, trans women are women, and this endless debate wouldn't take up so much of my time.

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