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GM Allegedly Spied On Drivers And Sold Their Data, Now It’s Paying A $220M Settlement
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Low Profile lemmy.world lowprofilestudio@lemmy.world
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If you had a suspicion your modern car is spying on you, you’re probably right. Vehicles these days are connected to the Internet of Things, able to feed data back to the cloud in real time. Once it’s there, what happens next may not be something you explicitly agreed to. Now the tide is starting…

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Tempus Fugit lemmy.world Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world
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Just one more reason to never buy garbage american cars. I learned my lesson after my first. Never trust american companies, ever.

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milbyte lemmy.ml milbyte11@lemmy.ml
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that $220M is pennies compared to what they got from selling that data

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SitD lemy.lol SitD@lemy.lol
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that $220M is pennies compared to what they got from selling that data

yep just an information sales tax 😂 basically another government endorsed trade channel

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nosuchanon lemmy.world nosuchanon@lemmy.world
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#5 · Quote Reply

that $220M is pennies compared to what they got from selling that data

General Motors reported a net income attributable to stockholders of $2.7 billion for the year 2025, which was a significant decline from $6 billion in 2024.

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Helix 🧬 feddit.org helix@feddit.org
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Just one more reason to never buy garbage american cars. I learned my lesson after my first. Never trust american companies, ever.

Other companies from other countries do this as well. You shouldn't trust any car maker.

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lemming741 lemmy.world lemming741@lemmy.world
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Other companies from other countries do this as well. You shouldn't trust any car maker.

I only want my data extracted by honorable japanese capitalists, not american pig capitalist

https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/

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Tempus Fugit lemmy.world Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world
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Other companies from other countries do this as well. You shouldn't trust any car maker.

I'd much rather have my info taken by a foreign company than an american one.

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surewhynotlem lemmy.world surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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General Motors reported a net income attributable to stockholders of $2.7 billion for the year 2025, which was a significant decline from $6 billion in 2024.

That doesn't address his point. Just because they suck in every other part of their business doesn't mean they failed to make lots of money off your data.

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phineas1134 reddthat.com phineas1134@reddthat.com
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Just one more reason to never buy garbage american cars. I learned my lesson after my first. Never trust american companies, ever.

Serious question, what new car can I buy that won't spy on me and send all my data to the manufacturer? I'll be in the market for a new car in a couple of years, and I've had a hard time finding anything where this wasn't an issue.

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Helix 🧬 feddit.org helix@feddit.org
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I only want my data extracted by honorable japanese capitalists, not american pig capitalist https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/

That's the spirit!

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Helix 🧬 feddit.org helix@feddit.org
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I'd much rather have my info taken by a foreign company than an american one.

I'd much rather have my info taken by neither a US-American one, nor another foreign one. I want my info to be taken exclusively by Swiss bankers! Their extortion letters look better than the others'.

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Tempus Fugit lemmy.world Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world
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Serious question, what new car can I buy that won't spy on me and send all my data to the manufacturer? I'll be in the market for a new car in a couple of years, and I've had a hard time finding anything where this wasn't an issue.

I genuinely don't know. I drive a 2017 Japanese car that I don't believe collects telemetry or data of any kind. I plan to drive this car until the wheels fall off.

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lazymoose lemmy.world lazymoose@lemmy.world
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I only want my data extracted by honorable japanese capitalists, not american pig capitalist https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/

I prefer the VW. Yeah, they are clearly trying to collect everything they can, but I think their software corrupts the data. I mean something is happening that they can't seem to make money off anything. Waiting until the battery warrenty is up to mess with anything that could take it off their grid.

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eldavi lemmy.ml eldavi@lemmy.ml
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Serious question, what new car can I buy that won't spy on me and send all my data to the manufacturer? I'll be in the market for a new car in a couple of years, and I've had a hard time finding anything where this wasn't an issue.

a car that's not meant to be sold anywhere in the western world. there's too much profit in collecting and sell all of your data for any corporation to pass up -- just like w phones.

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phineas1134 reddthat.com phineas1134@reddthat.com
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I genuinely don't know. I drive a 2017 Japanese car that I don't believe collects telemetry or data of any kind. I plan to drive this car until the wheels fall off.

You might be surprised. I have a 2017 chevy and it definitely does report data back to GM. I have a close friend that works there and was able to confirm this. I thought there was no way since it was old, and it has no internet access of any kind that I can see. But it uses the cell network to report back data. I suspect it reports alot less interesting data than new cars. But for sure, it is sending data back to GM over the cell network.

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☂️- lemmy.ml umbrella@lemmy.ml
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Serious question, what new car can I buy that won't spy on me and send all my data to the manufacturer? I'll be in the market for a new car in a couple of years, and I've had a hard time finding anything where this wasn't an issue.

protip: the modem on some cars can be disabled by pulling the fuse.

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boonhet lemmy.zip boonhet@lemmy.zip
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a car that's not meant to be sold anywhere in the western world. there's too much profit in collecting and sell all of your data for any corporation to pass up -- just like w phones.

Which car is that? Because I guarantee Asian manufacturers spy on you just the same.

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Buddahriffic lemmy.world Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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Just one more reason to never buy garbage american cars. I learned my lesson after my first. Never trust american companies, ever.

Honestly, I'd suggest first finding which cars have guides to remove or disable that shit and go from there.

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