I second this

If I don’t hear about women being arrested because some creep got immolated for catcalling them, I am going to be disappointed.

And yet somehow I feel this might not be the best path forward.

Well... let's try it out for a little and see what happens.

That bear isn't gonna know what it hit.

Typically without solid training what happens is the weapon gets turned on the wrong person.

But, for the sake of a good time we can imagine some asshole pervs getting lit up like a cigar. Heh heh. Awesome.

Well with women having these on hand at least the incels will finally achieve one of their objectives:

Women thinking they're smokin' hot.

Over catcalling? That seems somewhat insane though no?

Unwanted touching or stalking or threatening and such i could see of course, but reciprocating men trying to get a womans attention (in a crappy and rude fashion) with literally death and/or permanent disfigurement and pain is a little drastic.

We rightly abhor the insane acid attacks committed on women over some minor transgression out of some fucked sense of honor, sometimes happening in certain countries; how is this a viable position to hold just because the genders are reversed?

Honestly, I hope it is more deterrent than anything else

Selling something to anyone that can shoot flames up to 20 feet seems like a bad idea. Predators should probably be set on fire, but this sounds like it would take the entire block down with it.

It's all about peer pressure: don't bother her or they will suffer the consequences.

/s

Idk, having something that could melt metal from a safe distance as a deterrent seems a bit overkill. But don't take my word for it, I might be overreacting.

Well, that's the issue I find with this device, the same as guns or general physical force used against harasment and violence against women: it just leads to the woman getting arrested because the issue in the first place is that law enforcement and courts DO NOT take harasment and violence against women seriously

What do you have against weevils? :(

It's just running on butane - it won't have enough heat mass to melt metal (and produce any notable flames). Probably it won't do much more to a person than startle the hell out of them and maybe ignite their hair.

Beans for the bean gods! /j

I hope you’re able to keep your beans safe in the future, anyhow.

Handing out weapons to the population and expect them to use them responsibly has worked so fucking well so far...

Great, create more fear in society and pit people against each other and give them weapons, too. Winning concept.

I too hope that anyone using this shit gets prosecuted and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

This is just a way to market extraneous fire to all genders.

You can get one that attaches to one of those small camping propane tanks for under $30.

Also, fire doesn't just stay put. Yes, you might burn the attacker, but catch the building on fire killing people.

Needs a green flame.

Avada Kedavra!

It's been tried against white bullshit, but quickly got outta hand

3300°C seems a bit much for butane but it could be farenheit which I would assume is still quite hot.

Do you think it burns wasp and mosquito wings fast enough?

Abusers should be afraid. 🤷‍♂️

Cool idea but that thing needs a bigger fuel tank, looks like it'll be empty after 30 seconds of use

Bingo. This isn't a solution to the problem, it’s a response. The actual problem isn’t being addressed in the slightest. People defending themselves will continue to get blamed for standing their ground. The only solace to be had from that is that women being arrested for “assault” will serve as external confirmation that these things are being used and that they work.

I think even oxy-butane tops out at 2,000°C (which is 50,000°F or something idk). 3,300°C is around the max for oxy-acetylene, which is I'm assuming what the person writing this was looking at.

https://xkcd.com/322/

Depends on if you're going for shock or efficiency.

Hmm, that sounds like something a velociraptor would say.

Theres catcalling, and then theres catcalling. Someone shouting something across the street should probally be ignored if possible.

Someone coming up behind you to tell you they are going rape you? Fire time.

I hope the QA is good. Training or no training, these aliexpress specials will probably just self immolate in your bag.

I am a man. I am buying six of these, a pair of rollerskates, a hockey stick, a mini fire extinguisher, and some string.

See you guys on TV later!

Market it however you want, people want wizard powers

So, a worse pepper spray?

I can be trusted with this, I promise

The European age of mass human sacrifice in the form of witch burning (1450 to 1750) is certainly something we don't want to bring back.

If someone's physical safety is under threat then this seems like a reasonable tool for self protection.

Let's hope someone doesn't abuse it.

I somehow knew instantly

TFW the party's mage casts fireball in a small room...

Pit people against whom? Their active attacker? Who are you worried about making afraid?

By that logic, shouldn't everyone carry a gun too? If it's theoretically only going to be used against an active attacker, what's the big deal?

(Note: this isn't an argument for carrying guns)

A lot of people carry guns specifically for that reason. I’m not saying it’s a perfect solution, but it speaks of a bigger issue that is being ignored. If people are forced to look out for themselves then the options become very limited and outside of the possibility of anything approaching ideal. I’m not choosing to worry about the attackers getting set on fire in this situation, my concerns and those of the people who have a need for things like this have already been outright ignored entirely. People don’t have a better option, it was taken from them already.

And has easy access to guns never caused problems? Possibly more problems than they've solved?

My problem isn't with people deterring potential attackers or fighting off actual attackers. My concern is with the potential for misuse, and the fact that labeling this as some innocent means of self-defense is covering up the fact that it wouldn't be limited to being used exclusively by victims. That's just marketing. Any psycho could buy one of these.