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Trump’s FBI issued ‘stand down’ order on Epstein probe just days after arrest: report
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Tony Bark pawb.social tonytins@pawb.social
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A bombshell report revealed Monday that under the first Trump administration, the FBI appeared to have issued a “stand down” order to New York Police Department investigators regarding their criminal probe into Jeffrey Epstein, an order that came just five days after the disgraced financier’s arrest in 2019.

The existence of the supposed directive was revealed by law professor and legal scholar Ryan Goodman, who found it buried within the Justice Department's recent release of around 3.5 million files on Epstein.

“The directive applied to NYPD’s Special Victims Unit – the group specially trained and equipped to handle sex crimes and child abuse cases,” Goodman wrote in a report published Monday in Just Security, a non-partisan law and policy journal.

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hopesdead startrek.website hopesdead@startrek.website
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Why is it that a real life SVU unit in New York existing makes me think Trump will confuse this for the television show Law and Order: SVU?

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shittydwarf sh.itjust.works shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works
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What an odd thing to do

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[object Object] lemmy.ca panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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It’s become very clear that states should never ever delegate to federal agencies.

Such an order sounds have never been respected.

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avg lemmy.zip avg@lemmy.zip
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What an odd thing to do

Its so surprising that then you get a democrat in power and he does fuck all to bring bullshit like this to light. I'm not a both sides suck kind of person but in this particular situation. Jesus, it was politically beneficial and the right thing to do, how can you fuck that up.

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RaoulDook lemmy.world RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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Its so surprising that then you get a democrat in power and he does fuck all to bring bullshit like this to light. I'm not a both sides suck kind of person but in this particular situation. Jesus, it was politically beneficial and the right thing to do, how can you fuck that up.

That's fake news. The fact is that Epstein was dead, and they prosecuted and sentenced Maxwell during the Biden term. They also investigated Epstein's financial ties, uncovering $billions in wire transfers to Epstein from people like Les Wexner, during the Biden administration - look up Ron Wyden's investigation, which was suddenly denied access to those records in January 2025.

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SkybreakerEngineer lemmy.world SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world
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Why is it that a real life SVU unit in New York existing makes me think Trump will confuse this for the television show Law and Order: SVU?

In the criminal justice system, some crimes are especially heinous. But not this guy, he's very legal, very cool

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krashmo lemmy.world krashmo@lemmy.world
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That's fake news. The fact is that Epstein was dead, and they prosecuted and sentenced Maxwell during the Biden term. They also investigated Epstein's financial ties, uncovering $billions in wire transfers to Epstein from people like Les Wexner, during the Biden administration - look up Ron Wyden's investigation, which was suddenly denied access to those records in January 2025.

Is it fake news that any network of poor pedophiles would have been investigated, prosecuted, and imprisoned in much less than 4 years, not even including the time before Biden took office? Why the two separate standards?

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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yeah ok, but go back to the first complaints ignored by the FBI under Clinton in the 90s.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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That's fake news. The fact is that Epstein was dead, and they prosecuted and sentenced Maxwell during the Biden term. They also investigated Epstein's financial ties, uncovering $billions in wire transfers to Epstein from people like Les Wexner, during the Biden administration - look up Ron Wyden's investigation, which was suddenly denied access to those records in January 2025.

The fact is that Epstein was dead, and they prosecuted and sentenced Maxwell during the Biden term.

but a long list of associates and accessories to the crimes were not charged. The rot is on both sides of the floor here.

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RaoulDook lemmy.world RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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Is it fake news that any network of poor pedophiles would have been investigated, prosecuted, and imprisoned in much less than 4 years, not even including the time before Biden took office? Why the two separate standards?

I certainly didn't say any of those things. Perhaps you could read what I already wrote, again.

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RaoulDook lemmy.world RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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The fact is that Epstein was dead, and they prosecuted and sentenced Maxwell during the Biden term. but a long list of associates and accessories to the crimes were not charged. The rot is on both sides of the floor here.

Yep they should have. At least they did some things, more than prior or subsequent administrations have.

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resipsaloquitur lemmy.world resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world
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Its so surprising that then you get a democrat in power and he does fuck all to bring bullshit like this to light. I'm not a both sides suck kind of person but in this particular situation. Jesus, it was politically beneficial and the right thing to do, how can you fuck that up.

Almost like they have class consciousness and we don’t.

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pelespirit sh.itjust.works pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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Its so surprising that then you get a democrat in power and he does fuck all to bring bullshit like this to light. I'm not a both sides suck kind of person but in this particular situation. Jesus, it was politically beneficial and the right thing to do, how can you fuck that up.

Have you seen any of this evidence? It's really interesting:

YouTube video of Katie Johnson’s testimony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRod

Full court docket: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4154484/katie-johnson-v-donald-j-trump/

PDF of the initial complaint (WARNING very graphic): https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4154484/1/katie-johnson-v-donald-j-trump/
TRIGGER WARNING - EXPLICIT DESCRIPTIONS (Tap to reveal)

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krashmo lemmy.world krashmo@lemmy.world
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I certainly didn't say any of those things. Perhaps you could read what I already wrote, again.

You heavily implied they did everything they could and that is not accurate. If that's not what you meant to imply then your response makes no sense in context.

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EightBitBlood lemmy.world EightBitBlood@lemmy.world
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The fact is that Epstein was dead, and they prosecuted and sentenced Maxwell during the Biden term. but a long list of associates and accessories to the crimes were not charged. The rot is on both sides of the floor here.

One side is far more rotted than the other, as evidenced by Trump being mentioned in the Epstein files more than even Epstein.

Trump is now 100% the entirety of the Republican party. So that side of the rot has already eaten away anyything resembling reason and replaced it with the most horrendously inhuman decisions imaginable that have increased national misery for profit.

Democrats never wasted $200 Billion on a private army that can't do their job without public executions happening weekly.

Don't make such a stupid comparison when stupid is the reason it's got this bad.

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Mo. lemmy.world Poppa_Mo@lemmy.world
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yeah ok, but go back to the first complaints ignored by the FBI under Clinton in the 90s.

Yeah ok but LET'S LOOK AT ALL OF THEM. HOW ABOUT THAT?

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Professorozone lemmy.world Professorozone@lemmy.world
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Can the FBI order the NYPD to stand down? Do they have to follow the order?

Because if that's true I'm going to have to go back and see if Biden's DOJ actually DID witch hunt Trump. I was under the assumption that his felony convictions were brought by the state of New York, through a grand jury of actual people and the convictions were rendered by a jury of actual people and that it was ALL New York. No federal government involved. Can anyone comment on that?

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Tony Bark pawb.social tonytins@pawb.social
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Can the FBI order the NYPD to stand down? Do they have to follow the order? Because if that's true I'm going to have to go back and see if Biden's DOJ actually DID witch hunt Trump. I was under the assumption that his felony convictions were brought by the state of New York, through a grand jury of actual people and the convictions were rendered by a jury of actual people and that it was ALL Ne...

Why would Biden go after Trump? I can't think of any motivation.

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Its so surprising that then you get a democrat in power and he does fuck all to bring bullshit like this to light. I'm not a both sides suck kind of person but in this particular situation. Jesus, it was politically beneficial and the right thing to do, how can you fuck that up.

BoTh SiDeS

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avg lemmy.zip avg@lemmy.zip
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That's fake news. The fact is that Epstein was dead, and they prosecuted and sentenced Maxwell during the Biden term. They also investigated Epstein's financial ties, uncovering $billions in wire transfers to Epstein from people like Les Wexner, during the Biden administration - look up Ron Wyden's investigation, which was suddenly denied access to those records in January 2025.

Gotta day i fell for it I just want more people in jail

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Professorozone lemmy.world Professorozone@lemmy.world
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Why would Biden go after Trump? I can't think of any motivation.

I have no idea. It's Trump what do you expect? He's the most beloved person in the world who is simultaneously the most victimized.

Anyway, my question was more about CAN the federal government force this or is it more of a professional courtesy kind of a thing?

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Nastybutler lemmy.world Nastybutler@lemmy.world
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In the criminal justice system, some crimes are especially heinous. But not this guy, he's very legal, very cool

Totally exonerated! Lots of people are saying it

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BarneyPiccolo lemmy.today BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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One side is far more rotted than the other, as evidenced by Trump being mentioned in the Epstein files more than even Epstein. Trump is now 100% the entirety of the Republican party. So that side of the rot has already eaten away anyything resembling reason and replaced it with the most horrendously inhuman decisions imaginable that have increased national misery for profit. Democrats never was...

It's kind of like a lot of workplaces. You might have a supervisor who's a tyrant, and makes every second at work horrible, and then there's the supervisor who respects and leads their team, and makes work feel worthwhile.

But despite their very different approaches, they still have the same objective of serving those above them. While we fight over which is the more effective supervisor, it never occurs to us to blame those at the top who are causing the conflict in the first place.

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Wataba sh.itjust.works Wataba@sh.itjust.works
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Its so surprising that then you get a democrat in power and he does fuck all to bring bullshit like this to light. I'm not a both sides suck kind of person but in this particular situation. Jesus, it was politically beneficial and the right thing to do, how can you fuck that up.

Someone who is ineffective.

Someone who rapes children.

Both sides! Airtight?

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minorkeys lemmy.world minorkeys@lemmy.world
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I can understand an administration wanting to handle Epstein carefully and at the administration level, just wish it wasn't to help him.

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D_C sh.itjust.works D_C@sh.itjust.works
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Its so surprising that then you get a democrat in power and he does fuck all to bring bullshit like this to light. I'm not a both sides suck kind of person but in this particular situation. Jesus, it was politically beneficial and the right thing to do, how can you fuck that up.

You've been downvoted but I'm with you on this.
There was so much more going on (such as insurrection, and the top secret documents) but it all stumbled along.
It doesn't matter who died, or when, there were so many obvious crimes happening that there should've been numerous investigations happening almost immediately.

"But, but, biden didn't want it to look like a political witchhunt."
Firstly, bullshit. He was just slow and couldn't give a shit once he was in power.
Secondly, the fat orange child rapist could've stabbed a baby on live TV and then would still have yelled "fake news" and "political hit job" if he were to be arrested for it. It was fucking obvious.
Instead everyone waited and waited and then it was too late.

Investigations of crimes of that magnitude shouldn't stop just because one person died.
Furthermore if biden had have pushed for Donvict Drumpf's arrest and imprisonment earlier the whole world would be a better place. And I'm not being dramatic, literally the whole world. Not figuratively, literally.

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EightBitBlood lemmy.world EightBitBlood@lemmy.world
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It's kind of like a lot of workplaces. You might have a supervisor who's a tyrant, and makes every second at work horrible, and then there's the supervisor who respects and leads their team, and makes work feel worthwhile. But despite their very different approaches, they still have the same objective of serving those above them. While we fight over which is the more effective supervisor, it ne...

There's not a single oligarch who champions Democrats or liberal policies for a reason.

The people at the top put the tyrant who's a supervisor in place against all laws and reason. Your analogy only works if it's a workplace instead of a government that's been crippled to be as inefficiently nepotistic as a workplace. Entirely done by the one and only party that's been campaigning for running the country like a business for decades.

Absolutley none of that is the same as managers (Democrats) and workers (every US citizen) now stuck employed somewhere they can't leave because the whole company was sold to a team that gutted everything we all built together over a century to instead maximize our suffering for where it can be most profitable. Something the left has fought against for decades, and now gets blamed for "going too far."

They clearly didn't go far enough. That's the only thing rotten about them. They didn't rot as fast as the rest of the ship, and are literally the only ones now doing anything to at least try to stop the rot from spreading.

Not a single GOP member cares about this country more than they care about Trump and his donors money. That rot is far more visible and obviously worse.

We wouldn't even have an Epstein class if Reagan didn't cut their taxes so that wealth could instead be spent on setting up international child sex trafficking rings.

If you want to compare this country to a business then please stop pretending like that is something anyone but republicans have wanted for decades for the very reasons we're now discussing as bad.

Both sides are now rotten, and that rot has almost exclusively come from only one of those sides.

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Yeah ok but LET'S LOOK AT ALL OF THEM. HOW ABOUT THAT?

That's the point that you are replying to, yes.

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It’s become very clear that states should never ever delegate to federal agencies. Such an order sounds have never been respected.

Definitely not never since local agencies can be equally corrupt.

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One side is far more rotted than the other, as evidenced by Trump being mentioned in the Epstein files more than even Epstein. Trump is now 100% the entirety of the Republican party. So that side of the rot has already eaten away anyything resembling reason and replaced it with the most horrendously inhuman decisions imaginable that have increased national misery for profit. Democrats never was...

Trump being mentioned in the Epstein files more than even Epstein

Wait, is that true? Do you recall a source?

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paul lemmy.org paul@lemmy.org
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Why would Biden go after Trump? I can't think of any motivation.

Every accusation...

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EightBitBlood lemmy.world EightBitBlood@lemmy.world
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Trump being mentioned in the Epstein files more than even Epstein Wait, is that true? Do you recall a source?

https://newrepublic.com/post/206023/how-often-donald-trump-mentioned-epstein-files

Donald Trump was mentioned more than 38,000 times in the latest batch of Epstein files, according to a New York Times review of the Justice Department’s Friday public release of some three million pages from the sprawling investigation into child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.

The references include documents pertaining to Trump, his wife Melania, and their residence in Florida, Mar-a-Lago.

The president’s name appears in an FBI tip sheet several times in abuse allegations, including one in which an unknown source accuses Trump of forcing one of Epstein’s victims, presumed to be 13 or 14 years old, to perform oral sex on him.

38,000 times is more than Jesus is mentioned in the Bible BTW.

And thats just in the documents made public.

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Donald Trump is a pedophile and human trafficker. We all know it, his whole cabinet knows it, but they all are too power hungry to care.

I hope we can send them all to prison in a year.

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https://newrepublic.com/post/206023/how-often-donald-trump-mentioned-epstein-files Donald Trump was mentioned more than 38,000 times in the latest batch of Epstein files, according to a New York Times review of the Justice Department’s Friday public release of some three million pages from the sprawling investigation into child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein. The references include documents pe...

Epstein was obviously suffering bigly from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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law professor
Goodman

goddamn it

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CharlesDarwin lemmy.world CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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Most transparent administration in history.

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Jax sh.itjust.works Jax@sh.itjust.works
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#38 · (edited) Quote Reply

Its so surprising that then you get a democrat in power and he does fuck all to bring bullshit like this to light. I'm not a both sides suck kind of person but in this particular situation. Jesus, it was politically beneficial and the right thing to do, how can you fuck that up.

You're right, Biden should have done more.

Biden didn't rape kids and cover it up. Why are you talking about Biden?

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SnarkoPolo lemmy.world SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world
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Anyone really surprised?

Anyone really think the Republican elite will ever face justice?

Bullshit. The United States is a Fascist country. They rule. We serve.

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Reginald_T_Biter lemmy.world Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world
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You're right, Biden should have done more. Biden didn't rape kids and cover it up. Why are you talking about Biden?

Because they seen SUSPICUOUSLY unable to capitalise on the fact their opponents are all pedophiles.

But yes, DEFLECTORS AT 100% CAPTAIN also

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paul lemmy.org paul@lemmy.org
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yeah ok, but go back to the first complaints ignored by the FBI under Clinton in the 90s.

Trump is protecting Clinton by not releasing the unredacted files. Why would he do that?

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Jax sh.itjust.works Jax@sh.itjust.works
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Because they seen SUSPICUOUSLY unable to capitalise on the fact their opponents are all pedophiles. But yes, DEFLECTORS AT 100% CAPTAIN also

This is a post about something that happened during Trumps first term. Biden was not president then, and given what we've seen during Trump's second term, why would you think Trump's cronies in place would do anything other than obfuscate?

I'm not an expert, but I will say — the Fox news is strong in you for bringing up Biden in a post about something Trump's admin did in his first term. Like seriously, you have a future at that network.

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#43 · Quote Reply

This is a post about something that happened during Trumps first term. Biden was not president then, and given what we've seen during Trump's second term, why would you think Trump's cronies in place would do anything other than obfuscate? I'm not an expert, but I will say — the Fox news is strong in you for bringing up Biden in a post about something Trump's admin did in his first term. Like s...

I took the message to mean that Dems had the chance to break the law and release ALL files when Biden was in office. I don't agree with the take tho

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You're right, Biden should have done more. Biden didn't rape kids and cover it up. Why are you talking about Biden?

Biden didn't rape kids and cover it up.

He's is a bit too hair sniffy for me to support such a definitive statement. There are some weird videos out there of him in photocalls.

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https://newrepublic.com/post/206023/how-often-donald-trump-mentioned-epstein-files Donald Trump was mentioned more than 38,000 times in the latest batch of Epstein files, according to a New York Times review of the Justice Department’s Friday public release of some three million pages from the sprawling investigation into child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein. The references include documents pe...

According to Jamie Raskin, who viewed the unredacted files, the figure is over a million.

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Donald Trump is a pedophile and human trafficker. We all know it, his whole cabinet knows it, but they all are too power hungry to care. I hope we can send them all to prison in a year.

Prison? A celebrity? In america??

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LoafedBurrito lemmy.world LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world
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#47 · Quote Reply

Prison? A celebrity? In america??

A man can dream. A man can dream...

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#48 · Quote Reply

law professor Goodman goddamn it

It's all good, man!

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Levsgetso lemmy.zip Levsgetso@lemmy.zip
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#49 · Quote Reply

Trump is protecting Clinton by not releasing the unredacted files. Why would he do that?

I’d assume it’s because Clinton could drag him down if he does expose him.

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#50 · Quote Reply

Donald Trump is a pedophile and human trafficker. We all know it, his whole cabinet knows it, but they all are too power hungry to care. I hope we can send them all to prison in a year.

In a year? What do you think will happen in a year?

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Jax sh.itjust.works Jax@sh.itjust.works
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#51 · (edited) Quote Reply

I took the message to mean that Dems had the chance to break the law and release ALL files when Biden was in office. I don't agree with the take tho

I wholeheartedly agree that Biden could have done more. I even said as much. He was a terribly ineffective (or effective, if you're a billionaire or billionaire adjacent) president and I hate that he was the only reasonable option to vote for against Trump.

He didn't. Move on, vote for people to ensure it never happens again.

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