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lennybird
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lennybird@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-01 |
Biased review written out of regional universities in India. These places crank out AI slop every week. All implications, no mechanism.
Tbh this comment sounds like biased AI slop. Especially when they detail the mechanisms literally in the abstract. Everyone take note their Genetic Fallacy. |
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TheObviousSolution
lemmy.ca
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-06-25 |
Still, correlation does not imply causation. It might just be that because of the nature of what tumors are, they get stuck with more microplastics. The biggest problem with this study is that there are known carcinogens in some types of plastics over others, and it seems to outright choose to dismiss any attempt at distinction for the sake of the microplastic boogieman. |
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TheObviousSolution
lemmy.ca
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-06-25 |
Notably, tumor tissue contained significantly more plastic. On average, cancerous samples had about 2.5 times the concentration found in healthy prostate tissue (about 40 micrograms of plastic per gram of tissue compared with 16 micrograms per gram). Sure, though it's to be expected that everything contains water in the body. To expect microplastics, however, is kind of different -- leaving asi...
Correlation still doesn't prove causation. Tumors process resources different than surrounding cells. The worst thing about the study is that it chooses to focus on microplastics without distinction when we know certain types of plastics have far higher carcinogenic risk than others, it would have just taken than slight bit more effort to actually make it worthwhile. |
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Xanthrax
lemmy.world
Xanthrax@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-15 |
Oh, that's just the credit card I eat sometimes. I like to go down to the fridge on the weekend and shove that shit in like an atm. My prostate makes the "munch munch" ticket feeder sound every time. |
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GreenBottles
lemmy.world
sturmblast@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
Plastic seems to I be a massive problem |
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lennybird
lemmy.world
lennybird@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-01 |
Correlation still doesn't prove causation. Tumors process resources different than surrounding cells. The worst thing about the study is that it chooses to focus on microplastics without distinction when we know certain types of plastics have far higher carcinogenic risk than others, it would have just taken than slight bit more effort to actually make it worthwhile.
Naturally, more studies need to be conducted and microplastics have only been intensively studied beginning this past decade (PFAS being separate and longer). Similar to the carnivore fad diet, odds are exceedingly-high that having microplastics is not good for us but long-term and fully causal studies have not fully identified all mechanistic linkages. Yet I recall tobacco industries rhetorically hiding behind these arguments in a similar manner despite growing concerns from scientists and medical professionals. I just take issue with the implication of the other user that this is as harmless as ubiquitous and as fearmongering as water. That in itself is absurd. Microplastics should not be in our fucking bodies. Water should. |
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sircac
lemmy.world
sircac@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-09 |
They are also found everywhere else, what does such statement try to imply? |
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phutatorius
lemmy.zip
phutatorius@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-04 |
Plastic seems to I be a massive problem
So is lab techique that allows microparticle contamination, leading to over-measurement of microplastics. |
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RememberTheApollo_
lemmy.world
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-08-26 |
Notably, tumor tissue contained significantly more plastic. On average, cancerous samples had about 2.5 times the concentration found in healthy prostate tissue (about 40 micrograms of plastic per gram of tissue compared with 16 micrograms per gram). Still, correlation does not imply causation. It might just be that because of the nature of what tumors are, they get stuck with more microplastic...
Or maybe people that have unhealthy lifestyles that generally might include more ultra-processed foods or living conditions more susceptible to microplastics intake. IOW more plastics packaged foods and drinks, living near roadways where tire particles and exhaust both add to poor health and stress, etc. |
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Avicenna
programming.dev
Avicenna@programming.dev Joined: 2025-11-07 |
%90 of human tissues probably contain microplastics. title sounds like baity. Is it significantly less or more than other tissues is the question. |
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Lost_My_Mind
lemmy.world
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-07 |
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You realize that the boomers ARE the baby boomers right? It's like saying Gen-Z, or Zoomers. Same generation. |
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wpb
lemmy.world
wpb@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-08-17 |
For those who want to give an opinion based on even a smidge more than just the title. |
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village604
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village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
%90 of human tissues probably contain microplastics. title sounds like baity. Is it significantly less or more than other tissues is the question.
It's about 2.5x more than the surrounding non-cancerous prostate tissue. |
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village604
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village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
They are also found everywhere else, what does such statement try to imply?
If you read the article, the concentration was 2.5x higher than non-cancerous tissue. That's a statistically significant increase. |
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village604
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village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
Plastic seems to I be a massive problem
I think that it'll be the final nail in humanity's coffin. Climate Change is really bad, but humans are going to survive it, although in greatly reduced numbers for a long time. But plastics currently have a measured negative impact on fertility rates. Can't survive as a species if you can't reproduce. |
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village604
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village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
You realize that the boomers ARE the baby boomers right? It's like saying Gen-Z, or Zoomers. Same generation.
Not really anymore. Boomer is just a generic term for old people standing in the way of progress now. |
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village604
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village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
In case you’re not joking, Baby Boomers = Boomers. Their parents were from the Silent Generation or the Greatest Generation. Baby Boomer refers to people born in the “baby boom” caused by the prosperity and optimism following WWII, and these days is often shortened to just Boomer.
They are two different terms. Baby boomers describes a generation while Boomer is used as a pejorative term for old people out of touch with the younger generations. Boomer is basically a modern version of fogie. |
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mic_check_one_two
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mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-03-20 |
%90 of human tissues probably contain microplastics. title sounds like baity. Is it significantly less or more than other tissues is the question.
The article states that cancerous areas had ~2.5x more microplastics than the surrounding non-cancerous areas. It could be a chicken and egg/correlation≠causation situation, (is cancer caused by microplastics, or do cancerous cells attract microplastics?) but the article does outline that cancer cells clearly had more microplastics. |
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MasterNerd
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MasterNerd@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-07-01 |
The article states that cancerous areas had ~2.5x more microplastics than the surrounding non-cancerous areas. It could be a chicken and egg/correlation≠causation situation, (is cancer caused by microplastics, or do cancerous cells attract microplastics?) but the article does outline that cancer cells clearly had more microplastics.
Cancerous tumors tend to siphon more resources than healthy cells. It's not surprising that they'd have a higher concentration of microplastics |
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drunkpostdisaster
lemmy.world
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-09 |
Goddamn. This is probably why prostate cancer is sky rocketing. I am pretty sure I got it, but I doubt I can afford to get checked. Wothless fucking life anyway. |
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Lost_My_Mind
lemmy.world
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-07 |
Not really anymore. Boomer is just a generic term for old people standing in the way of progress now.
And the old people right now ARE the baby boomers. Again, same generation. |
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village604
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village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
And the old people right now ARE the baby boomers. Again, same generation.
But the term isn't only used against baby boomers. It's basically the same as 'fogie' from back in the day. I guarantee you that there are Gen X people who have been called boomer unironically |
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jaek
lemmy.world
jaek@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Goddamn. This is probably why prostate cancer is sky rocketing. I am pretty sure I got it, but I doubt I can afford to get checked. Wothless fucking life anyway.
That's horrible, I'm sorry you're going through that. Is there not any free way to get it checked out in your country? |
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Clent
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-13 |
But the term isn't only used against baby boomers. It's basically the same as 'fogie' from back in the day. I guarantee you that there are Gen X people who have been called boomer unironically
Gen X are worse than baby boomers. They gave us the antivaxx movement. Killing future children with climate change was taking too long so they went with preventable diseases. |
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GreenBottles
lemmy.world
sturmblast@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
So is lab techique that allows microparticle contamination, leading to over-measurement of microplastics.
Post a source if you are going to say things like that |
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village604
adultswim.fan
village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
Gen X are worse than baby boomers. They gave us the antivaxx movement. Killing future children with climate change was taking too long so they went with preventable diseases.
I'm not sure how that's relevant to the conversation. |
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HugeNerd
lemmy.ca
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-06 |
90% of non-cancerous prostates too. |
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Clent
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-13 |
I'm not sure how that's relevant to the conversation.
Calling them boomers insults boomers. |
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drunkpostdisaster
lemmy.world
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-09 |
That's horrible, I'm sorry you're going through that. Is there not any free way to get it checked out in your country?
I am trying. But my state is facing heavy brain drain. And honestly it's taking all I got to even care right now. My mom is sick too. She keeps denying it. And wants to visit Hawaii which we have been trying for years to set up and now is our last chance and I simply can't even live with myself if I let that chance go. |
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W98BSoD
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W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-01-30 |
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anon_8675309
lemmy.world
anon_8675309@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-01 |
Dash is all you need. |
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village604
adultswim.fan
village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
Calling them boomers insults boomers.
That's still not relevant to the discussion of whether or not the term Boomer is only used for baby boomers. |
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Zanathos
lemmy.world
Zanathos@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-06-21 |
I am trying. But my state is facing heavy brain drain. And honestly it's taking all I got to even care right now. My mom is sick too. She keeps denying it. And wants to visit Hawaii which we have been trying for years to set up and now is our last chance and I simply can't even live with myself if I let that chance go.
Dr.'s hate this one trick - tell them you're facing issues peeing and you'll get recommended to a urologist. Even with my family history of prostate cancer I couldn't get one until I started having issues with my stream. Sure enough my prostate is slightly enlarged even at 40 and am now on meds for it. |
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thejoker954
lemmy.world
thejoker954@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-01 |
I am trying. But my state is facing heavy brain drain. And honestly it's taking all I got to even care right now. My mom is sick too. She keeps denying it. And wants to visit Hawaii which we have been trying for years to set up and now is our last chance and I simply can't even live with myself if I let that chance go.
Just gotta find a doctor on grinder /s |
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Clent
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-13 |
That's still not relevant to the discussion of whether or not the term Boomer is only used for baby boomers.
k. |
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TheObviousSolution
lemmy.ca
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-06-25 |
Or maybe people that have unhealthy lifestyles that generally might include more ultra-processed foods or living conditions more susceptible to microplastics intake. IOW more plastics packaged foods and drinks, living near roadways where tire particles and exhaust both add to poor health and stress, etc.
Yeah, I remember reading that tires are the biggest microplastic contributors. Those are some good points. |
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TheObviousSolution
lemmy.ca
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-06-25 |
Naturally, more studies need to be conducted and microplastics have only been intensively studied beginning this past decade (PFAS being separate and longer). Similar to the carnivore fad diet, odds are exceedingly-high that having microplastics is not good for us but long-term and fully causal studies have not fully identified all mechanistic linkages. Yet I recall tobacco industries rhetorica...
It shouldn't, but as a problem it is no longer preventable, at least for most people not able to be born into a socioeconomic bubble now that it has been identified as a problem. Lumping them altogether into microplastics is like lumping all addictive substances - coffee, alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, cocaine - into the same category. Sure, you'd be a lot better not being addicted to anything, but some addictions are worse than others, and for different reasons. It also lumps carcinogenic agents under the same smoke screen as, say, biodegradable microplastics which have considerably lower ecotoxicity. |
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NotMyOldRedditName
lemmy.world
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-24 |
Goddamn. This is probably why prostate cancer is sky rocketing. I am pretty sure I got it, but I doubt I can afford to get checked. Wothless fucking life anyway.
I saw someone else in another thread post they weren't too expensive (relatively) to get checked. I think someone said something like $1500 uninsured in USA, and googles AI answer says on average $2400. Not cheap, but it's not some crazy $20,000 bill kinda thing. |
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AoxoMoxoA
lemmy.world
AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-02-12 |
I saw someone else in another thread post they weren't too expensive (relatively) to get checked. I think someone said something like $1500 uninsured in USA, and googles AI answer says on average $2400. Not cheap, but it's not some crazy $20,000 bill kinda thing.
To me $2400 is some crazy bill kinda thing. I'm gonna die soon too I guess , I'd rather not even know at this point. Hope I can figure it out in time to try crack and heroin which are at least somewhat affordable |
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JennyLaFae
lemmy.blahaj.zone
JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-03-14 |
That's horrible, I'm sorry you're going through that. Is there not any free way to get it checked out in your country?
In the US the process is to become too sick to work so you qualify for government assistance and hope some part of your safety net can keep you out of homelessness and cross your fingers for filling out paperwork correctly. |
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ScoffingLizard
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ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-05-04 |
With everything going on in the world, i actually dont care about microplastics. If i was rich then i would care way more about my future 😂
No shit. Give me a pool if micro plastics and I'll go for a swim. I have insurance and will not take medicine that could save my life because living is scarier than dying at this point. Fuck it. |
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ScoffingLizard
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ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-05-04 |
But the term isn't only used against baby boomers. It's basically the same as 'fogie' from back in the day. I guarantee you that there are Gen X people who have been called boomer unironically
That's because people are stupid. I've been called a boomer and I'm millineal. |
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OriginEnergySux
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OriginEnergySux@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-02-02 |
No shit. Give me a pool if micro plastics and I'll go for a swim. I have insurance and will not take medicine that could save my life because living is scarier than dying at this point. Fuck it.
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village604
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village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
That's because people are stupid. I've been called a boomer and I'm millineal.
That's because Boomer isn't generation specific. It gets its name from them, but it's just another iteration of what kids call old people when they're being dismissive. And really, you're pulling a Principal Skinner "No, it's the kids who are wrong," which is kinda the definition of Boomer. |
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Treczoks
lemmy.world
Treczoks@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
And 100% contain dihydrogen monoxide. |
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Jännät
sopuli.xyz
jaennaet@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2025-06-28 |
I think that it'll be the final nail in humanity's coffin. Climate Change is really bad, but humans are going to survive it, although in greatly reduced numbers for a long time. But plastics currently have a measured negative impact on fertility rates. Can't survive as a species if you can't reproduce.
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SaneMartigan
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SaneMartigan@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-11-12 |
I saw someone else in another thread post they weren't too expensive (relatively) to get checked. I think someone said something like $1500 uninsured in USA, and googles AI answer says on average $2400. Not cheap, but it's not some crazy $20,000 bill kinda thing.
$2400 every few years. |
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NotMyOldRedditName
lemmy.world
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-24 |
$2400 every few years.
Ya that's not good for routine checks which is what should be normal, but if you think something is actively wrong its an option, or at least on the lower end of the scale price wise if that's where you happen to live. That doesn't count for what happens if its positive and you're uninsured either. |
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SaneMartigan
lemmy.world
SaneMartigan@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-11-12 |
Ya that's not good for routine checks which is what should be normal, but if you think something is actively wrong its an option, or at least on the lower end of the scale price wise if that's where you happen to live. That doesn't count for what happens if its positive and you're uninsured either.
American healthcare sucks. I'm in Australia which is much better but I wouldn't say it's good. |
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yabbadabaddon
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yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-02-02 |
Although this is a scary number, it is worth considering this comes from one hospital and 10 patients. It is a strong hint to pursue research in this area but I wouldn't call it a proof yet |
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