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return2ozma
lemmy.world
return2ozma@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-01 Banned |
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its_kim_love
lemmy.blahaj.zone
its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-10-14 |
I guess we should switch to glass disldos. |
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e8CArkcAuLE
piefed.social
e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-08-12 |
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jan/13/microplastics-human-body-doubt TL;DR: science currently has no efficient way to actually measure microplastic content with being able to control for outside contaminants edit: please read the other comments below! |
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Chozo
fedia.io
Chozo@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-03-04 |
I'm pretty sure that 90% of all biomass in general contains microplastics these days. |
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MOARbid1
piefed.social
MOARbid1@piefed.social Joined: 2025-03-24 |
We are all full of microplastics, but our tumors are too. |
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Oxysis/Oxy
lemmy.blahaj.zone
oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-04-06 |
I guess we should switch to glass disldos.
Whew good thing I only have dildos and not disldos /j |
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queerlilhayseed
piefed.blahaj.zone
queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-09-27 |
I can't find a link to the study from the article but I think this is the publication they're referring to. |
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Mighty_Appititey
lemmy.world
Mighty_Appititey@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-11 |
And this guy stuck his finger in them?! |
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DokPsy
lemmy.world
DokPsy@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-18 |
And this guy stuck his finger in them?!
That's.....how you check for prostate cancer |
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Big_Boss_77
fedinsfw.app
Big_Boss_77@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-02-22 |
We are all full of microplastics, but our tumors are too.
Take that, tumor! |
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davad
lemmy.world
davad@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jan/13/microplastics-human-body-doubt TL;DR: science currently has no efficient way to actually measure microplastic content with being able to control for outside contaminants edit: please read the other comments below!
IIRC, there's a harder, trusted process for measurement. But an easier method that has gained widespread adoption, and that method is what has been called into question. |
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Elextra
literature.cafe
Elextra@literature.cafe Joined: 2024-04-28 |
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jan/13/microplastics-human-body-doubt TL;DR: science currently has no efficient way to actually measure microplastic content with being able to control for outside contaminants edit: please read the other comments below!
Agreed. The technology is still new, evolving, or not there yet. I was at an aquarium only last month. They were showing me a machine where there are only 7 available in the US so far. The scientist only got it like 3 days before I spoke to her so she hadnt used it yet but it measures concentration of microplastics in the ocean and is specific enough to tell you what different microplastics are there and their likely sources. Really cool but this science is super new and in its infancy. |
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ImWaitingForRetcons
lemmy.world
ImWaitingForRetcons@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-30 |
I'm pretty sure that 90% of all biomass in general contains microplastics these days.
You greatly underestimate the pervasiveness of microplastics. |
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Cypher
aussie.zone
Cypher@aussie.zone Joined: 2023-06-14 |
That's.....how you check for prostate cancer
There are blood tests now. Science takes the fun out of everything |
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Calfpupa [she/her]
lemmy.ml
Calfpupa@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-01-26 |
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jan/13/microplastics-human-body-doubt TL;DR: science currently has no efficient way to actually measure microplastic content with being able to control for outside contaminants edit: please read the other comments below!
This is a hit piece, echoes of big oil & tobacco. It's picking studies that have (debatable) issues, then is casting a wide net that is encouraging doubt of all microplastics in the body studies. They take the time to explain why these can be ignored, but depend on you to go read the counter-counterarguments made by the original researchers of each study yourself. Rauert says there are absolutely nanoplastics in our bodies, but micro plastics are unlikely due to their size. It doesn't do a meta-analysis of all MNP studies and doesn't disregard bad criticisms or biased voices (Kuhlman). It's also sensationalised. Pulled from a chat about this when this was released |
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Mulligrubs
lemmy.world
Mulligrubs@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-08-11 Banned |
I'm not a scientist, but that seems kind of weird maybe even bad Ah well, fuck it I will now spend $2,000 USD on a super-detailed limited edition Batman display figurine |
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ThatGuy46475
lemmy.world
ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-01-25 |
100% of acid rain contains dihydrogen monoxide |
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Lost_My_Mind
lemmy.world
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-07 |
I'm pretty sure that 90% of all biomass in general contains microplastics these days.
Thanks boomers! |
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HellsBelle
sh.itjust.works
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-10-18 |
Whew good thing I only have dildos and not disldos /j
Does the extra letter increase its girth? ;) |
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Formfiller
lemmy.world
Formfiller@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-12 |
Good thing we just deregulated like everything |
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RagingRobot
lemmy.world
RagingRobot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-02 |
It looks pretty at least lol |
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Track_Shovel
slrpnk.net
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netJoined: 2023-06-13 |
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jan/13/microplastics-human-body-doubt TL;DR: science currently has no efficient way to actually measure microplastic content with being able to control for outside contaminants edit: please read the other comments below!
When you lack a control, though you should still be able to compare those with tumours and those without. One treatment (no tumour) to the other. Controls answer: what if we did nothing? And how big are the effects vs doing nothing? E: they can't get accurate measurements themselves that's the issue, not the lack of uncontaminated controls |
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Sterile_Technique
lemmy.world
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
There are blood tests now. Science takes the fun out of everything
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OriginEnergySux
lemmy.world
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-02-02 |
With everything going on in the world, i actually dont care about microplastics. If i was rich then i would care way more about my future đ |
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Tollana1234567
lemmy.today
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-04 |
correlation doesnt equal causation. CANCER cell in general have higher metabolic energy requirements, so they intake more(pump) in the surrouding environment to fuel thier uncontrolled cell division, so naturally microplastics on the outside of the cell would be pumped into the cell along with nutrients it stealing at higher than normal tissue to fuel its growth. |
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Insekticus
aussie.zone
Insekticus@aussie.zone Joined: 2025-09-13 |
correlation doesnt equal causation. CANCER cell in general have higher metabolic energy requirements, so they intake more(pump) in the surrouding environment to fuel thier uncontrolled cell division, so naturally microplastics on the outside of the cell would be pumped into the cell along with nutrients it stealing at higher than normal tissue to fuel its growth.
I agree with you, but with the carcinogenic nature of aryl compounds used in, and as by-products of, the polymerization and hardening/softening of plastics, the incidence of plastics in cells could in turn turn them cancerous, and thus increase the rate at which they draw nutrients and microplastics from the vascular system. One may not necessarily cause the other, but they are overwhelmingly correlated - beyond the point of suspicion. It would be interesting to see a study comparing other types of cancers, their microplastic levels, and the microplastic levels of other cells in progressively radiating distances from the cancerous cells. |
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SpicyLizards
reddthat.com
SpicyLizards@reddthat.com Joined: 2023-09-27 |
Now do bowel cancer as that's exploding too. We have so much toxic crap in every part of the world now... We (the richest and most moral of us) have really made the plastics index hit amazing new highs. What a success! |
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JstAnthrUsr
feddit.org
JstAnthrUsr@feddit.org Joined: 2025-12-14 |
I agree with you, but with the carcinogenic nature of aryl compounds used in, and as by-products of, the polymerization and hardening/softening of plastics, the incidence of plastics in cells could in turn turn them cancerous, and thus increase the rate at which they draw nutrients and microplastics from the vascular system. One may not necessarily cause the other, but they are overwhelmingly c...
Wouldnt it be smarter to test for cancer risk with microplastics in blood as the explaining variable. Because all that gives you is saying "wow Theres a tumor, and it contains microplastics". |
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ă¸ăł
quokk.au
Dialectical_Specialist@quokk.auJoined: 2025-10-25 |
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jan/13/microplastics-human-body-doubt TL;DR: science currently has no efficient way to actually measure microplastic content with being able to control for outside contaminants edit: please read the other comments below!
can I get a eli5 for this? it sounds scary but I'm also not sure what you meant. |
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Insekticus
aussie.zone
Insekticus@aussie.zone Joined: 2025-09-13 |
Wouldnt it be smarter to test for cancer risk with microplastics in blood as the explaining variable. Because all that gives you is saying "wow Theres a tumor, and it contains microplastics".
I dont know how one would reasonably test for a specific 'risk' of cancer from plastics considering the plethora of plastic and non-plastic causes of cancer as variables (both chemical and physical). One would have to go further and define specifically which mechanism(s) we're talking about (Microplastic? Nanoplastics? Macroplastics? Physical contact/cellular damage from plastics? Amount of cancerous chemicals leeching out of the microplastics that entered the cell passively (considering theoretically it only takes a single molecule of a cancerous substance, to damage a specific oncogene whose reparation was simply overlooked by cellular gene repair chanisms thus causing cancer))? Do we differentiate between cancers caused by different plasticizers leeching out of different materials? And at what rate?) As infinitely reductive as the thought experiment may be, ultimately, it's almost unnecessary when you consider that any size of microplastics leeching any amount of carcinogenic chemicals inside cells is too much, and should be treated with as much disdain as drinking from leaded pipes. More specifically, given the ubiquity of plastics in all humans, good luck finding a control group. |
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Slashme
lemmy.world
Slashme@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-24 |
All tumours, no exception, contain dihydrogen monoxide. |
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iopq
lemmy.world
iopq@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
I dont know how one would reasonably test for a specific 'risk' of cancer from plastics considering the plethora of plastic and non-plastic causes of cancer as variables (both chemical and physical). One would have to go further and define specifically which mechanism(s) we're talking about (Microplastic? Nanoplastics? Macroplastics? Physical contact/cellular damage from plastics? Amount of can...
How? You test the variables separately. For example, if smoking increases risk by 50%, combine the smoker and non-smoker groups with that in mind |
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elucubra
sopuli.xyz
elucubra@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-03 |
All tumours, no exception, contain dihydrogen monoxide.
You know, I've never understood why there are no warning labels on the bottles of the stuff. |
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Opisek
piefed.blahaj.zone
Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-09-24 |
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Not only for the hospital. You can help your homies out for free, too. |
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e8CArkcAuLE
piefed.social
e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-08-12 |
This is a hit piece, echoes of big oil & tobacco. It's picking studies that have (debatable) issues, then is casting a wide net that is encouraging doubt of all microplastics in the body studies. They take the time to explain why these can be ignored, but depend on you to go read the counter-counterarguments made by the original researchers of each study yourself. Rauert says there are abso...
iâm not too knowledgeable which is why i didnât bother to read the counter-counter arguments (case solved, problem in between seat and screen). you appear to be way more knowledgeable, do you have more conclusions from that chat? |
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e8CArkcAuLE
piefed.social
e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-08-12 |
I guess we should switch to glass disldos.
i read glass diodes and imagined a cyberpunk future lol |
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grue
lemmy.world
grue@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
i read glass diodes and imagined a cyberpunk future lol
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lennybird
lemmy.world
lennybird@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-01 |
All tumours, no exception, contain dihydrogen monoxide.
Sure, though it's to be expected that everything contains water in the body. To expect microplastics, however, is kind of different -- leaving aside their showing a legitimate difference in microplastic quantity between healthy and unhealthy prostates. |
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lennybird
lemmy.world
lennybird@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-01 |
correlation doesnt equal causation. CANCER cell in general have higher metabolic energy requirements, so they intake more(pump) in the surrouding environment to fuel thier uncontrolled cell division, so naturally microplastics on the outside of the cell would be pumped into the cell along with nutrients it stealing at higher than normal tissue to fuel its growth.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12505851/ (October, 2025)
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alonsohmtz
feddit.uk
alonsohmtz@feddit.uk Joined: 2026-02-17 |
Thanks boomers!
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12505851/ (October, 2025) Microplastics as emerging carcinogens: from environmental pollutants to oncogenic drivers ABSTRACT: The widespread environmental pollution of microplastics (MPs) and nanoplastics (NPs) has become a major public health issue, with increasing evidence associating their bioaccumulation with cancer onset. This review offers a thorou...
Biased review written out of regional universities in India. These places crank out AI slop every week. All implications, no mechanism. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
I agree with you, but with the carcinogenic nature of aryl compounds used in, and as by-products of, the polymerization and hardening/softening of plastics, the incidence of plastics in cells could in turn turn them cancerous, and thus increase the rate at which they draw nutrients and microplastics from the vascular system. One may not necessarily cause the other, but they are overwhelmingly c...
Lymph nodes with cancer also contain dust and plant fibers. Mouse studies use stupid amounts of select plastic injected into susceptible strains. This is junk until we see mechanism. Remember the BPA will give you tits scare? Shit science. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
Wouldnt it be smarter to test for cancer risk with microplastics in blood as the explaining variable. Because all that gives you is saying "wow Theres a tumor, and it contains microplastics".
It's no different than seeing amyloid plaques in brains with dementia and concluding they caused the dementia. That story has been going on for 30 years supported entirely by fraudulent manuscripts because it has to be true. We have been implanting plastics in medicine with stents, prosthetics etc for 75 years. No one ever saw tumors at those implanted sites. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
Now do bowel cancer as that's exploding too. We have so much toxic crap in every part of the world now... We (the richest and most moral of us) have really made the plastics index hit amazing new highs. What a success!
Bowel cancer is only a problem in the US under 50. It's the shit you eat you call food. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
That's.....how you check for prostate cancer
Turns out, the finger test was never accurate. |
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Thunderbird4
lemmy.world
Thunderbird4@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
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In case youâre not joking, Baby Boomers = Boomers. Their parents were from the Silent Generation or the Greatest Generation. Baby Boomer refers to people born in the âbaby boomâ caused by the prosperity and optimism following WWII, and these days is often shortened to just Boomer. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
There are blood tests now. Science takes the fun out of everything
US does PSA testing, but the rest of the world knows PSA can only track the cancer, not detect it. |
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alonsohmtz
feddit.uk
alonsohmtz@feddit.uk Joined: 2026-02-17 |
In case youâre not joking, Baby Boomers = Boomers. Their parents were from the Silent Generation or the Greatest Generation. Baby Boomer refers to people born in the âbaby boomâ caused by the prosperity and optimism following WWII, and these days is often shortened to just Boomer.
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Rusty
lemmy.ca
Rusty@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
You greatly underestimate the pervasiveness of microplastics.
The other 10% contains macroplastic. |
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Calfpupa [she/her]
lemmy.ml
Calfpupa@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-01-26 |
iâm not too knowledgeable which is why i didnât bother to read the counter-counter arguments (case solved, problem in between seat and screen). also i didnât realize itâs a hit piece, by no means would i like to propagate denialism. you appear to be way more knowledgeable, do you have more conclusions from that chat? also can you do an eli5 what is meta-analysis?
My wife is the more knowledgeable one, but a meta-analysis is basically when you combine all the data of similar studies on a subject. It can expose studies that are bad within the data set and better assess the efficacy of the techniques used in a study. Compare that to what was done here, which was mostly just cherrypicking and highlighting the issues of a handful of studies. I encourage you to give a peek at the counter counter-arguments! There is some jargon, but there is decipherable stuff in it (moreso than the original papers imo). One of them says something to the effect of "we had to skip the standard control because the control was in a container that was releasing microplastics" which I would consider reasonable. I called this a hit piece because the person they quote about it being a "bombshell" works for DOW Chemical. |
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BeardededSquidward
lemmy.blahaj.zone
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-12-04 |
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You're one of the 10K today! |
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