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An AI Thought Experiment on Substack Is Sending The Stock Market Spiraling
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return2ozma lemmy.world return2ozma@lemmy.world
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ButtermilkBiscuit feddit.nl ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl
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2 to 4 years out guys I'm seriously this time. Gaaaaaawwwww.

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ToTheGraveMyLove sh.itjust.works ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works
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Good, fuck the stock market. Let it all crash and get people hungry, maybe then we'll finally eat the rich, if that doesn't do it I dong know what will

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Rimu piefed.social rimu@piefed.social
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Really? Looks like a normal day at the office to me:

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morto piefed.social morto@piefed.social
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From ai 2027 to this, it seems that even hyped ai predictions are getting humbled down

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opensource1312 piefed.social wobblyunionist@piefed.social
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degenerate_neutron_matter fedia.io degenerate_neutron_matter@fedia.io
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[object Object] lemmy.ca panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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I’m pretty sure the 1% drop is attributable to Trump pushing more tariffs.

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meco03211 lemmy.world meco03211@lemmy.world
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Really? Looks like a normal day at the office to me:

Wait a minute. Is the DOW not "OVER 50,000 DOL... 50,000. IT'S OVER 50,000!" ??

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Iconoclast feddit.uk Iconoclast@feddit.uk
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Is the stock market crash in the room with us?

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KeenFlame feddit.nu KeenFlame@feddit.nu
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Good, fuck the stock market. Let it all crash and get people hungry, maybe then we'll finally eat the rich, if that doesn't do it I dong know what will

You are lazy

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Iconoclast feddit.uk Iconoclast@feddit.uk
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AI is a broad category of systems, not any one thing. "AI doesn't work" is like saying "plants taste bad"

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I Cast Fist programming.dev ICastFist@programming.dev
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Alternative title: "We found a random substack and decided to correlate with market fluctuation because it seemed like a very good idea to drive clicks!"

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Bane_Killgrind lemmy.dbzer0.com Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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AI is a broad category of systems, not any one thing. "AI doesn't work" is like saying "plants taste bad"

When they are pushing any plant, for everything, everywhere disregarding concerns for quality or appropriateness yeah plants taste bad, and will probably kill a few people

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XLE piefed.social XLE@piefed.social
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Really? Looks like a normal day at the office to me:

Do you not simply believe the assumption AI will be super powerful any day now, titled "AI 2027" "The 2028 Global Intelligence Crisis"?

It's gonna happen for real this time. Cryptocurrency NFTs AI and cryptocurrency will upend the market with how incredible they have been.

Then, agentic commerce, coupled with stablecoins, gets rid of transaction fees and upends the business models of payment processors like Mastercard and card-focused banks like American Express.

/s

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XLE piefed.social XLE@piefed.social
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AI is a broad category of systems, not any one thing. "AI doesn't work" is like saying "plants taste bad"

You know exactly what we're talking about when we look at this article and say "AI doesn't work." If you want to feign outrage, save it for the tech companies that muddy the waters.

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Iconoclast feddit.uk Iconoclast@feddit.uk
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#17 · (edited) Quote Reply

You know exactly what we're talking about when we look at this article and say "AI doesn't work." If you want to feign outrage, save it for the tech companies that muddy the waters.

Even if someone's inaccurately using "AI" as a synonym for LLMs, that claim would still be false - because LLMs work. You can use one right now.

One spitting out false information isn't a sign they're not working. That's not what LLMs are designed for. They're chatbots - not generally intelligent systems. They don't think - they talk.

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XLE piefed.social XLE@piefed.social
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Even if someone's inaccurately using "AI" as a synonym for LLMs, that claim would still be false - because LLMs work. You can use one right now. One spitting out false information isn't a sign they're not working. That's not what LLMs are designed for. They're chatbots - not generally intelligent systems. They don't think - they talk.

If you can understand the sentence "AI doesn't work" is about LLMs, surely you can also understand that not working is synonymous for returning incorrect outputs.

I have literally no idea what else you'd be arguing. Its ability to generate words? Everybody knows it can do that

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Iconoclast feddit.uk Iconoclast@feddit.uk
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If you can understand the sentence "AI doesn't work" is about LLMs, surely you can also understand that not working is synonymous for returning incorrect outputs. I have literally no idea what else you'd be arguing. Its ability to generate words? Everybody knows it can do that

The vast majority of people aren't educated on the correct terminology here. They don't know the difference between AI, LLM, AGI, ASI, etc. That makes it near impossible to have real discussions about AI - everyone's constantly talking past each other and using the same words to mean completely different things.

My original comment wasn't even challenging their claim that "AI doesn't work." I was just pointing out that AI and LLM aren't synonymous. It's my one-man fight against sloppy, imprecise use of language. I'd rather engage with what people are actually saying, not with what I assume they're saying.

When it comes to LLMs, it's not just a "word generator." It's a system that generates natural-sounding language based on statistical probabilities and patterns. In other words: it talks. That's all. Saying an LLM "doesn't work" because it spits out inaccurate info is like saying a chess bot doesn't work because it can't play poker. No - that's user error. They're trying to use the tool for something it was never designed to do.

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XLE piefed.social XLE@piefed.social
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The vast majority of people aren't educated on the correct terminology here. They don't know the difference between AI, LLM, AGI, ASI, etc. That makes it near impossible to have real discussions about AI - everyone's constantly talking past each other and using the same words to mean completely different things. My original comment wasn't even challenging their claim that "AI doesn't work." I w...

To belabor the chess analogy: I would say a chessbot didn't work if it randomly caused pieces to appear. Or if it made exceedingly lousy moves. You'd apparently say it was working because it technically changed the board.

Literally nobody is saying the token predictor isn't predicting token. It's just predicting wrong token, which normal people call "not working," while tech evangelists prefer to call it "hallucination" or "misalignment" depending on the narrative they're aiming for.

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Iconoclast feddit.uk Iconoclast@feddit.uk
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To belabor the chess analogy: I would say a chessbot didn't work if it randomly caused pieces to appear. Or if it made exceedingly lousy moves. You'd apparently say it was working because it technically changed the board. Literally nobody is saying the token predictor isn't predicting token. It's just predicting wrong token, which normal people call "not working," while tech evangelists prefer ...

The goal of the token predictor is to produce coherent language - not factual information. If you can understand what it's saying, it's working - even if the content of what it says is factually inaccurate.

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criss_cross lemmy.world criss_cross@lemmy.world
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Wait a minute. Is the DOW not "OVER 50,000 DOL... 50,000. IT'S OVER 50,000!" ??

Aw shit does this mean crime isn’t legal anymore?

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XLE piefed.social XLE@piefed.social
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The goal of the token predictor is to produce coherent language - not factual information. If you can understand what it's saying, it's working - even if the content of what it says is factually inaccurate.

Accuracy is the only thing people want, and the only thing AI companies talk about. The text has already legible, and it's been that way for years. I think you're alone on your quest to lower the bar for the word "works"

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Phoenixz lemmy.ca phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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Alternative title: "We found a random substack and decided to correlate with market fluctuation because it seemed like a very good idea to drive clicks!"

Ding ding ding

Yay for clickbait bullshit articles

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IratePirate feddit.org IratePirate@feddit.org
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#25 · Quote Reply

Do you not simply believe the assumption AI will be super powerful any day now, titled "AI 2027" "The 2028 Global Intelligence Crisis"? It's gonna happen for real this time. Cryptocurrency NFTs AI and cryptocurrency will upend the market with how incredible they have been. Then, agentic commerce, coupled with stablecoins, gets rid of transaction fees and upends the business models of payment pr...

It’s gonna happen for real this time. Cryptocurrency NFTs AI and cryptocurrency will upend the market with how incredible they have been.

You forgot the Metaverse. (Like you should.)

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