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kalmosUnlisted jlai.lu kalmosUnlisted644@jlai.lu
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Interesting. Reminds me that Deezer made an algo to detect AI-made music in order to de monetize them on their streaming platform.

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eleijeep piefed.social eleijeep@piefed.social
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I've been waiting for something like this to appear. Not just a "plagiarism detector" but something that actually identifies the data in the training pool that most closely represent a particular AI model output. You could do the same for text and images too, and I'm surprised this is the first one that I've heard of.

I'm not a fan of the MAFIAA but if this type of reverse-search tech can hold AI companies to account then it's a step towards reining them in.

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GreenBeanMachine lemmy.world GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world
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ShinkanTrain lemmy.ml ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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I never thought I'd die fighting side by side with music industry DRM

What about side by side with a friend?

Fuck you

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FauxLiving lemmy.world FauxLiving@lemmy.world
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I never thought I'd die fighting side by side with music industry DRM What about side by side with a friend? Fuck you

On one hand you have a soul sucking corporation who's purpose in life is to profit off of the work of musicians and on the other side you have an AI company.

Sony isn't doing this to help artists, they're doing this so that they can demand more rent.

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Coldcell sh.itjust.works Coldcell@sh.itjust.works
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On one hand you have a soul sucking corporation who's purpose in life is to profit off of the work of musicians and on the other side you have an AI company. Sony isn't doing this to help artists, they're doing this so that they can demand more rent.

When your enemies are destroying each other, do not interrupt.

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Yerbouti sh.itjust.works Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
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Here's a trick : it sucks.

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Mika piefed.ca Mika@piefed.ca
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I've been waiting for something like this to appear. Not just a "plagiarism detector" but something that actually identifies the data in the training pool that most closely represent a particular AI model output. You could do the same for text and images too, and I'm surprised this is the first one that I've heard of. I'm not a fan of the MAFIAA but if this type of reverse-search tech can hold ...

We've heard about it before alright, some students today do deliberate mistakes in their works cause writing phrases correctly flags you as AI by university's anti-AI AI. We will get real artists flagged, I'm sure of it.

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XLE piefed.social XLE@piefed.social
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I've been waiting for something like this to appear. Not just a "plagiarism detector" but something that actually identifies the data in the training pool that most closely represent a particular AI model output. You could do the same for text and images too, and I'm surprised this is the first one that I've heard of. I'm not a fan of the MAFIAA but if this type of reverse-search tech can hold ...

When it comes to stuff like copyright lawsuits against AI companies, the only way you can fight big money (at least in the US) is with more money.

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UltraMagnus startrek.website UltraMagnus@startrek.website
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The article is 5 paragraphs long. Is it really that hard to read it and answer your question? Nevermind, I think I misread your comment. Sorry!

What Sony is specifically trying to do is see if any AI song can be traced to specific songs- e.g., if someone prompted "make me a song in the style of Lady Gaga", would Sony be able to conclusively determine this based on the outputting song?

I am a bit skeptical of this working, but then again, there were some image generators spitting out gettysburg watermarks.

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penguin lemmy.pixelpassport.studio penguin@lemmy.pixelpassport.studio
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Interesting. Reminds me that Deezer made an algo to detect AI-made music in order to de monetize them on their streaming platform.

Deezer has the only accurate indicator that I know of, I use it in a program that prevents AI generated music from being added to my library

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BreadstickNinja lemmy.world BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world
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I never thought I'd die fighting side by side with music industry DRM What about side by side with a friend? Fuck you

"You don't get to fuck over the artists! That's our job!"

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General_Effort lemmy.world General_Effort@lemmy.world
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Hmm. What are the chances that they manage to sneak such a fraudulent scheme past courts or lawmakers?

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General_Effort lemmy.world General_Effort@lemmy.world
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I've been waiting for something like this to appear. Not just a "plagiarism detector" but something that actually identifies the data in the training pool that most closely represent a particular AI model output. You could do the same for text and images too, and I'm surprised this is the first one that I've heard of. I'm not a fan of the MAFIAA but if this type of reverse-search tech can hold ...

I remember a guy about 3 years ago trying that grift with images. Went nowhere because the images it flagged as the "source" looked nothing like the generated images. In music, it might be more successful. Marvin Gaye's estate showed the way.

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oni ᓚᘏᗢ lemmy.world capuccino@lemmy.world
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I've been waiting for something like this to appear. Not just a "plagiarism detector" but something that actually identifies the data in the training pool that most closely represent a particular AI model output. You could do the same for text and images too, and I'm surprised this is the first one that I've heard of. I'm not a fan of the MAFIAA but if this type of reverse-search tech can hold ...

Cool would be that AI products have their own data as sufix in the content that they generate, something like ID3, and we get new AI file extensions, like .aijpg, .aipng, .aimp3, etc.

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