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B-Both sides same!

"The US is killing random people overseas and there's nothing you can do about it."

"Wow, I've heard this so many times, I've gone numb."

"Don't go numb! Don't go numb! Don't go numb!"

I mean, as far as murdering civilians goes it is a both sides thing. Basically every US president is guilty of war crimes against civilians. Trump is just bragging about his. Obama is just as guilty for his drone strikes.

The US is killing its own citizens in Mainland US right now, anyone with empathy to spare for Americans is built different. I can only feel bad for you guys for so long without you doing anything to stop your issues. To be clear I am American but I'm taking steps to completely remove myself from society, as humans suck

Read Settlers

great book.

So what you’re saying is that you aren’t taking any steps to fix this either. Gotcha.

All of us doing nothing caused this, you will not escape blame by burying your head in the sand.

Regarding meddling in Latin America?

Correct.

Exhibit B.

Exhibit A.

Oh yeah, how could americans possibly know what it's like to die of preventable illness because treatment is unavailable to them?

The number of americans sacrificed to health insurance companies every year is no small number either if it could be accurately counted.

You are blaming working americans for their government here. Like it's our fault for not overthrowing the empire, sorry, just lazy I suppose.

They said they were removing themselves. That's start

They burned medical supplies. They literally incinerated them. Disgusting.

Might want to get past the average american apathy and avarice first it would seem.

Those guillotines aren’t going to build themselves, Hector.

Wasting all my money on avocado toast and shit, fucking kids these days.

Americans are already numb. They don’t give a single shit.

EXACTLY. People in the USA need to stop thinking their country was angelic until Trump came along. It’s always been a murderous menace since before its founding. Latin America is an excellent example of this, though sadly, not the only one.

The trend line has been clear for a long long time. That country is a cancer on the world. Patriots can get touchy about it, and they will because patriots don’t tend to be all that bright in general, but their feelings aren’t worth as much as the world’s blood.

People in the USA need to know what their country truly stands for, and has always stood for—domination.

If only biden & his pick for doj and his immunity from prosecution as president and his knowledge of politics from 3+decades of experience had enabled him to prosecute and jail the child fucker ring.

If only he knew of the american media beast that lives in Washington that somehow he was not able to evade or play like an instrument given his 3+ decades of experience and lived world and access to any and all of the best marketers and strategic advisors by don't of his being president and a household name.

Were these things different, perhaps the one side could produce effects to demonstrate in the minds of even the least news-watching simpleton thst they are, indeed, different. Alas.

Oh I disagree. They give plenty of shits. It's just that the shits are ones of thunderous approval and not shocked horror and outrage.

Curious about the sourcing on number 8 there. The Wikipedia article on his removal states that the US supported the results of the election and condemned his removal and the coup overall. Once Zelaya was removed, Secretary of State Clinton tried to capitalize on the situation to strengthen Homduras' dependency on US aid. I'd say that falls in a morally gray area, but it's a far cry from an actual US backed coup.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Honduran_coup_d'état

NGL, I originally started looking into this infographic because basically every one of those incidents involves a Republican administration except that one.

basically every one of those incidents involves a Republican administration

Using military money that was allocated in the preceding year by democrats.

The pedophiles in power will do anything to distract from the fact that they raped little kids.

Tribunals for the lot of them when this shit is over. Bombing boats in the Caribbean is one thing, the starvation of Cuba is an incredible, horrific escalation. This regime is almost certainly already guilty of thousands of deaths.

Okay? The problems highlighted in the infographic have nothing to do with how much military spending was approved, and everything to do with when and more specifically, where it was used.

Would you be mad at republicans for approving more social service funding if Biden spent that money giving bailouts to corporations for "daycare"? (Purely hypothetical situation here)

You're kinder than I, I interpreted it as "I stay in my basement and don't interact with society."

Which of course is a big fat nothing.

So what are you saying? That American Imperialism is not the fault of America, but the fault of Republicans? Quite a convenient way to absolve yourself.

My main point is that American Imperialism, especially in Latin America, enjoys bipartisan support.

My main point is that historically, there has been one particular political group in the United States which consistently does the worst shit possible to the rest of the world. Not saying they've never done anything good, not saying that they are the only group that has ever done bad shit. I am saying that it's a pretty big stretch to say "both sides are the same, just look at this map" and then have 11 of the 12 listed examples being perpetrated by one group, and the 1 example by the other group is disinfo/misinfo. I think it brings serious question into the validity of saying "both sides are the same" and the validity of the document overall.

Also, map was hard to read at a glance, when I said #8, I was referring to Honduras. I thought the numbers were a key of some sort, not a count of military interventions.

Your country should stop the USA! YOU CAN DO IT

good luck

Both sides aren't the same.

They are both corrupt, anti-labor, and pro-capital though (in USA).

They're both so corrupt that they have legalized corruption. Bribery is blatant and open

and then have 11 of the 12 listed examples being perpetrated by one group

Why are you focusing on who was president?

The claim was: American Imperialism enjoys bipartisan support

Your counterpoint was: that cant be true because some of these examples were during republican POTUS.

That doesn't mean anything. American Imperialism can still enjoy bipartisan support, even if the president is a republican.

Take the DR in 1965, for example. LBJ was president, but his call to war was answered emphatically by both Democrats AND Republicans in the name of anticommunism. Do you seriously think that the fact that LBJ was president disproves that this meddling enjoyed bipartisan support?

You are kinder than me. I was enjoying thinking they might take the toaster in the bath with them.