It's already used in construction as a documentation device. Photos are big as a documentation tool and some inspectors already use wearable cameras as a tool.

Hat ✅

Hood ✅

Head down in my phone ✅

Perfect response. Record someone without consent, it should be the last time those glasses are wearable.

I’ve never seen an online discussion about privacy without some version of this comment. Never gets old. Is there an Android keyboard with an apathy button that I’m unaware of?

Thank you, I see this so often and it always irks me.
"oh but you're limiting your reach with this license because companies won't want to us— boo fucking hoo, maybe not everything is about market-share and having a morbillion downloads.

If it's blocked off in your switch/firewall/network config then I don't think that's possible.

The removed post is implying people with these cameras should be run over by cars. Whether that breaks any ToS or not idk but it’s pretty clear what the post is saying

Well in the tv and fridge example they piggy backed on other networks in range using a backdoor. Like cellphones and other devices.

Can you link a source please?

Yeah: they'd be pointing the phone at you.

Apathy? Not at all. Its simply a matter of established law, in the USA anyway. I can't speak to the legal systems of the other 140+ countries on planet Earth.

Can you cite a law in the USA or in your own country where you have a right to privacy making photographing you simply standing in a public park an illegal act perpetrated by another person or government entity?

I'm in the AEC industry. Almost any implementation of on site augmentation sucks ass most especially because the tech nerds making them have a really hard time truly understanding the needs OF tradespeople and installers.

Almost all of them are top down implementations meant to assess tooling and field quality rather than actually acting as an overlay aid in construction (which, like, 90% of tradespeople worth their salt don't actually need FYI).

Also, I've found, most of these tech nerds making this shit don't know how to actually put a building together and are constantly flummoxed by the methodology.

Years of privacy violations going deeper and deeper under pretend of "progress" and "pRoTeCt the cHiLdReN".
I am glad that people started rebelling against Flock, and some removed their Amazon cameras following the Superbowl's ads, but that's not even close to how much we should be mad at these mass surveillance actors.

If I can find the lawsuit sure, It was just a footnote in a suit about 5 years ago. Oddly I am having issues finding the coverage on it from before, but I do know that the suit was settled and was to include evidence of hidden backup "maintenance" networks if a smart device was offline/did not report after a set time. I remember it was a big deal at the time as it implied that device makers where building in support for these unlisted hotspots possibly across manufacturers.

There is a current case on the issue in general but not about the back door network tricks, not even sure if the backdoor was ever proven (the case was settled). But I know that these companies think they are entitled to our data and have little trust they would not do some sort of shit like this.

Is that what you're referring to?
https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/meta-facial-recognition-glasses
These people have no ethics and no moral code. They know we'll hate it, so they want to sneak it!

Yeah, but the issue is intent and actual usage. I don't want to fuck up my neck by always looking down at a 30deg angle, so I do try to view things on my phone more level with my face. I avoid pointing it directly at people, but I can't change how others would interpret that.

Using an AR display on those glasses with frames that thick is such a horrible idea. Google was on the right track with the HUD displayed on a frame-less prism that doesn't block half your vision.

Last thing I'd want is to be in the middle of something with my hands full and the display bugs out, blocking the one eye, making me screw something up.

Or playing Pokémon GO

I dislike Facebook and deleted my account even before they changed to "Meta". I also value privacy.

But what privacy violations do "smart glasses" provide that weren't already trivially available?
Tiny cameras are insanely cheap. A reasonably handy person could hide several on their person and there are plenty of "spy shops" that sell actual wearable hidden cameras.

The "I love ICE" kid was wearing Meta Ray Bans but the first video I saw of it was from someone else' camera. I can't leave the house without getting filmed from multiple angles. The only thing those glasses do is make it really obvious that the wearer is a dumbass.

Well, my glasses don't give off bluetooth signal or record but I'm afraid I'll end up caught in the crossfire with my XR glasses on trains and planes. I travel for work so it's nice to have a big screen to watch media on when I'm traveling for 20+ hours.

The difference is that meta glasses constantly upload to their creepy servers to do automatic face recognition.

I don't think so. The guy wearing the meta frames next to me on the other hand...

It's pretty easy for me to put my phone in my shirt pocket with the camera exposed and facing out

/no, I don't use this for anything nefarious

Sorry bro, I'm still calling you that if you are wearing these glasses.

It's not a stretch

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/tabloid/hyderabad-chronicle/watch-out-creeps-in-smart-eyewear-1938632

https://sfist.com/2025/10/03/here-come-the-creeps-meta-ray-ban-glasses-dudebro-stalking-women-at-usf-posting-videos-of-them-to-social-media/

https://evrimagaci.org/gpt/bbc-breakfast-exposes-secret-smart-glasses-filming-scandal-523718

I don't think highly of people that choose to partner with these companies to sacrifice both their own privacy and that of those around them.

You call them what you want to call them, but I think the negative stigma here is good.

Why?

Found the fanboy.

"HEY GUYS IT'S NO BIG DEAL NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. I DISLIKE FACEBOOK BUT DEFINITELY DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM WITH THESE ALWAYS ON SPY DEVICES THAT ARE CONSTANTLY CONNECTED TO DEMONSTRABLY EVIL PEOPLE"

Not the purpose of the thread I know but would you care to share additional information? Model, price, comfort, compatibility, are they good?

Not actually what they said, though.

EDIT: For all of you downvoting, this isn't conspiracy or speculation. Just a few days ago the FBI publicized footage in the Guthrie case that was acquired illegally.

True, but understand, every wireless-connected smart device you wear or interact with in any way is doing the same.

Meta's nonsense isn't unique, and should be regulated into nonexistence, but unless you're keeping your phone in a Faraday bag you too are being constantly filmed, tracked, and snooped upon.

It's a huge stretch. Most of the people buying these glasses are just interested in technology, see this cool new thing, and are ignorant to privacy because they already use social media and whatnot. Creeps use phones to take underskirt pictures of girls too, so are you going to go around calling every phone owner a creep? People like you who see ignorant "normies" as malicious enemies are what's wrong with the privacy community. Like I said earlier, we should educate, not name call.

Downplaying in the war for privacy is vouching for the enemy.

I picked up the Viture Luma Cyberpunk edition for like $550 USD, they're sold out now but so far I think they're okay. They definitely don't fully live up to the hype but that's part of being an early adopter in the enthusiast space I guess. The app kinda sucks and it's seriously limited, so if you're looking for that 3DoF or lightweight use on the 180VR you'll be out of luck there. The immersive 3d is a neat party trick and seems to work well enough. I like that function for showing off videos that I've taken while traveling or at work. They have built in diopters so you can get the focus right while you're using them as a follow screen. For watching movies or playing games on your tablet while traveling, I think they'll be hard to beat. They have apps for android, windows, ios, and mac. I haven't tried them on PC yet but I'm hoping the pc app is far more flushed out. So far, comfort is pretty good and it seems like they'll be okay for burning a few hours. I also work in a remote location with frequent weather days, so having a private method of watching big screen content in my cabin was a big selling point for me.

Overall, neat little device, but it's definitely quite early in the product development cycle and I'm excited to see what the next few years hold.

Sorry for the incoherent bits and poor formatting, I'm actively falling asleep while typing this out. I'll be more than happy to answer any additional follow-up questions you may have when I'm fully awake.

No, my iPhone is not doing that because they give you a switch to turn it off and encrypt anything Apple touches. It disables some handy features but it’s a worthwhile trade off in my opinion.

I've worked in construction, and now work as a CAD specialist, so I know your pain, but the problem with "how to actually put a building together" is a very wide issue, also present with engineers and architects.

meta is all about surveillance cant expect anything less

The main differences I can think of are:

• Better video quality
• More normalized
• Easier to get your hands on
• They look like raybans and are brand name
• They're debatibly "cool"
• Also Facebook is involved

Basically they produce better video and are more normalized in society.

There's a window of attention for public discourse and there's fatigue. We, as a group, can only be upset about so much. It's a tried tactic to just try to distract us with some crazy shit, like Trump did with the alien files. If one crazy thing comes up in the news, other stuff will drop from our radar. And that's why people try shit again and again and again. Always in the hope that this time people are distracted by other stuff or are finally worn down enough.

See, I don't really want full AR. I want a HUD, a very small number of rudimentary AR features, like floating windows for text documents or videos, physical buttons on the arms of the glasses, small drivers by the ears for audio, and battery life that will last most of the day. I already have to wear glasses and if I'm paying more for extra features I want ones that will last the whole time I might want them, not just the six or so hours a day that the current offerings have.

If you dont want corpos to exploit it, you go with GPL. Then they are forced to share back.

There is a big difference between available and normalized. Buying a tiny camera to film people without consent makes you a creep in a way buying a social media corporation's product doesn't. Pulling out a camera to film someone is a signal to them that they are being filmed in a way looking at them while wearing camera glasses isn't.

These glasses could change the landscape of our social reality. If they catch on, corporations will know your facial expressions, your location, and what you are looking at whenever you are in public, even if you have no account.

They will learn the face you make when you are too tired to argue and tell the shops you're heading towards that you're an easy mark today.

They will see a flash of defiance on your face when you hear someone say Nazi shit and change the video advertisements you walk by to ones that will make you feel powerless.

And so the net is pulled ever-tighter. All we can do is try to cut our way out.

Alternative android OSes also not withstanding.

I'm sure that switch disables it and isn't just a presentation, but if you haven't, get a faraday bag and keep your phone in it when you're not using it.

Cheers.

but an open-hardware device running a FOSS AR system?
Until these display my health, ammo and the direction to my next objective, I'll pass.

It still isn't OK.

It is just that the technology became so small, you can't differentiate with regular sunglasses anymore.

Pretty sure that already exists.

But it is mainly used for solving hardware problems where a technician can film whatever they are working on with their phone, and a remote technician can "draw" in AR on the image in real time to point towards the things that need manual interventions.

What about a camera that is covered by a cap that can only be lifted if they press the mechanical button on the side of the glasses?

You could still film things like posters to get more information about the event, while not filming everyone all the time.

I'm not the other commenter, and it's not all encompassing, but I'll link this one here for DE https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recht_am_eigenen_Bild_(Deutschland)

This is fantastic, but from what I understand they use randomized OUIs, so wouldn't they be undetectable or at least unreliable in detection?

I don't really see anything wrong with making an app for the purpose. Bit of a different target audience and probably easier setup. Also raises awareness via news coverage and by getting people to talk about it.