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LePoisson
lemmy.world
LePoisson@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-02 |
"Here's a list of reasons why all hope is lost and you too should bend the knee." That's all I read. C.O.W.A.R.D.
You're a silly person, aren't ya. Yeah fuck me for acknowledging AR glasses or other AR tech could be very useful but it's being limited by our privacy concerns that are basically theater at this point. Truly I am so cowardly Mr big internet man. |
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pemptago
lemmy.ml
pemptago@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-08-11 |
There's a window of attention for public discourse and there's fatigue. We, as a group, can only be upset about so much. It's a tried tactic to just try to distract us with some crazy shit, like Trump did with the alien files. If one crazy thing comes up in the news, other stuff will drop from our radar. And that's why people try shit again and again and again. Always in the hope that this time...
Windows Recall has re-entered the chat. |
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kent_eh
lemmy.ca
kent_eh@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-06 |
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It might also help find lost puppies, but that's not a good enough reason to give up any additional amounts of privacy to the megacorporations or to a police state. |
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kent_eh
lemmy.ca
kent_eh@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-06 |
Years of privacy violations going deeper and deeper under pretend of "progress" and "pRoTeCt the cHiLdReN". I am glad that people started rebelling against Flock, and some removed their Amazon cameras following the Superbowl's ads, but that's not even close to how much we should be mad at these mass surveillance actors.
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dariusj18
lemmy.world
dariusj18@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-01-21 |
now if i could get that app without a phone, and with a warning of nearby phones too...
Prolly use a Flipper Zero |
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HalfSalesman
lemmy.world
HalfSalesman@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-30 |
It apparently works with the bluetooth signals which I found really smart.
Couldn't people who specifically want to stealthily record people just turn off the bluetooth? |
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HalfSalesman
lemmy.world
HalfSalesman@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-30 |
I mean, eventually there are going to be people with camera's stealthily integrated directly into their eyeballs recording non-stop. Like that black mirror episode letting people relive any moment from their past. |
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SkyeStarfall
lemmy.blahaj.zone
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-06-12 |
I'm just being realistic about the future. You already are carrying around a machine that's listening and watching. You're walking into and out of stores where you're on camera. Hell you're driving past however many cameras in your car or walking past them on the street, every business, every office, every space has cameras now. Thus, I think eventually more and more augmented reality devices w...
While I agree that AR glasses will become widespread, there's still time to advocate for and implement privacy focused regulations. Especially early on as people are upset about the technology While not perfect solutions, enforcing stuff such as recording LEDs and such are steps in the right direction |
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Donkter
lemmy.world
Donkter@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
I agree with the core of your point. I'd like to assert, though, that all people exert some level of self-censorship in public on the basis of the opinions of their neighbors and peers. Having to worry about powerful organizations like governments and megacorps also always being there (instead of just sometimes, or usually) adds a new degree of reason to self-censor, for sure.
Yes. You should have to censor yourself for neighbors and peers to have a functioning society. You should not have to do it for corporations. The line is pretty cut and dry and we should fight to keep it. |
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_haha_oh_wow_
sh.itjust.works
_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-12 |
See, I don't really want full AR. I want a HUD, a very small number of rudimentary AR features, like floating windows for text documents or videos, physical buttons on the arms of the glasses, small drivers by the ears for audio, and battery life that will last most of the day. I already have to wear glasses and if I'm paying more for extra features I want ones that will last the whole time I m...
If that's all you want, making something that just clips onto your existing glasses might be pretty viable. |
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scott_anon_21
lemmy.ca
scott_anon_21@lemmy.caJoined: 2025-03-08 |
I picked up the Viture Luma Cyberpunk edition for like $550 USD, they're sold out now but so far I think they're okay. They definitely don't fully live up to the hype but that's part of being an early adopter in the enthusiast space I guess. The app kinda sucks and it's seriously limited, so if you're looking for that 3DoF or lightweight use on the 180VR you'll be out of luck there. The immersi...
Not incoherent at all and I appreciate you taking the time to interrupt your beauty sleep to respond. ;) This technology space has a lot of promise but knowing when it is really ready for prime time is difficult to discern with all the hype. Sounds like it is close, or fully useable depending on use case. You hit all the key points so no follow up questions. Thanks! |
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doingthestuff
lemy.lol
doingthestuff@lemy.lol Joined: 2024-11-01 |
Breaking someone's legs requires excessive force, so no, you would not be within your rights to break someone's legs for punching you in the face. That would absolutely be an escalation of force and not legally defendable. In order to shoot someone in self defense, you have to prove that you feared for your life. Its not a get out of jail free card.
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rektdeckard
lemmy.world
rektdeckard@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-08 |
Couldn't people who specifically want to stealthily record people just turn off the bluetooth?
I believe Bluetooth is always on with the Meta glasses, at least the last gen. They offload everything to the phone. I got a pair as a work gift and only use them as sunglasses with headphones built-in so I can listen to podcasts on walks. |
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ToTheGraveMyLove
sh.itjust.works
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-01-29 |
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Again though, its not a get out of jail free card. There needs to be a clear threat to life and limb. Just being punched is not an invitation to shoot somebody. Stop spreading false and dangerous information. |
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partial_accumen
lemmy.world
partial_accumen@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
There's a difference between taking a picture of a person and taking a picture of scenery or event with a person in it in Germany. It's a subtle but significant difference. And relevant when talking about do you have to expect for your picture to be taken. You may not care when your in the background or not identifiable but at the same time care when someone knows you and takes photography of y...
With your comments I found additional German legal guidance that mostly matches what you said. It appears that Germany does indeed have a portion of privacy from someone intentionally walking up to you and taking your picture. I don't think this invalidates my original point because it doesn't appear that expectation of privacy extends to installed surveillance cameras in public. However, I appreciate having a better understanding of German law. Thank you. |
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Schadrach
lemmy.sdf.org
Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-07-11 |
would these help lead to more arrest if assaults were captured on the cameras It might also help find lost puppies, but that's not a good enough reason to give up any additional amounts of privacy to the megacorporations or to a police state.
Everyone around you has a phone with a camera. Businesses and the government have additional cameras looking all over. The phone camera being less obvious and handsfree seems like an arbitrary choice of where to draw the line |
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moebiusstrop
piefed.social
moebiusstrop@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-17 |
Github (APK) link, if you're on a privacy phone: https://github.com/yjeanrenaud/yj_nearbyglasses |
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Truscape
lemmy.blahaj.zone
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-06-20 |
I mean, eventually there are going to be people with camera's stealthily integrated directly into their eyeballs recording non-stop. Like that black mirror episode letting people relive any moment from their past.
The wireless communication protocol will still be able to be intercepted. A physical port for data transfer will probably be too dangerous to the subject and prone to contamination (and infection). |
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AxExRx
lemmy.world
axexrx@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-06 |
Is unsolved assault cases currently a problem? That sounds like an answer looking for a problem to me.
And I think it just means anyone deciding to commit assault just also steals/ destroys the victims phone and glasses as a default |
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AxExRx
lemmy.world
axexrx@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-06 |
Admittedly, this is cyberpunk as fuck. Should not be neededโฆ but itโs a fucking cool solution.
Next step is for someone makes a version that hijacks the Bluetooth headphones and makes them play a loud shrill noise that makes the glasses too uncomfortable to wear in your pressence. |
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iglou
programming.dev
iglou@programming.dev Joined: 2025-05-12 |
The wireless communication protocol will still be able to be intercepted. A physical port for data transfer will probably be too dangerous to the subject and prone to contamination (and infection).
But not necessarily interpreted. |
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anomnom
sh.itjust.works
anomnom@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-11-09 |
I remember Google Glass itself receiving a ton of outrage actually: People hated it and anyone wearing one was made fun of ("glassholes" was a popular insult at the time).
Iโll still use it for the meta garbage, but I think the reason is that the glasses are just inconspicuous enough for most normies to not notice they are being recorded. Till the moron wearing them starts staring off into space while reading tweets at least. |
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nednobbins
lemmy.zip
nednobbins@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-20 |
In reply to an earlier post
If I understand your response correctly, you're arguing that the glasses themselves aren't the issue, it's the shifts that come with accepting the glasses. They may ironically have the reverse effect. I guarantee that corporations are already cataloging your facial expressions. Between Ring, Flock, Apple, Google, Netflix, Samsung, etc. there are many pictures of all our faces with rich annotation. Currently most people don't even think about how thoroughly they're being watched. These douchy glasses may actually draw attention to the matter. |
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nednobbins
lemmy.zip
nednobbins@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-20 |
In reply to an earlier post
They can produce better video than some cameras but not as good as others. 12MP ultrawide is pretty standard on security cameras and they're already all over the place. Do you think that the current smart glasses are making surveillance more normalized or do you think that they're getting more common because we've already normalized constant surveillance? I'd point out that the PATRIOT act passed a quarter century ago with only one "No" and one abstention. |
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nednobbins
lemmy.zip
nednobbins@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-20 |
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As does Ring, Flock, Samsung, Apple, Google and so on. Steve Mann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Mann_(inventor) has been doing that for a long time. |
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Imgonnatrythis
sh.itjust.works
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-09-23 |
In reply to an earlier post
'people like you' don't give consumers enough credit. They aren't ignorant to the privacy concerns. That's nonsense. They just don't care about them. People buying these glasses take it a step further though by disrespecting the privacy of others. For that, I will ostracize them and their apologists. |
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privatepirate
lemmy.zip
privatepirate@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-02-12 |
'people like you' don't give consumers enough credit. They aren't ignorant to the privacy concerns. That's nonsense. They just don't care about them. People buying these glasses take it a step further though by disrespecting the privacy of others. For that, I will ostracize them and their apologists. Also what so "cool" exactly to you about strapping an ip camera to your face?
I'm not going to argue with you anymore. Let's agree to disagree ๐ |
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EtherWhack
lemmy.world
EtherWhack@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-23 |
In reply to an earlier post
I mean, that was sorta the point of the comment... I don't like them and therefore, I won't be using them, ever. I'd get a less obstructing headset instead. And, I wouldn't get a headset just to play around with it, I'd actually want to use it and try to get to it help me doing things. |
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Kissaki
feddit.org
Kissaki@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-07-14 |
With your comments I found additional German legal guidance that mostly matches what you said. It appears that Germany does indeed have a portion of privacy from someone intentionally walking up to you and taking your picture. I don't think this invalidates my original point because it doesn't appear that expectation of privacy extends to installed surveillance cameras in public. However, I app...
Regarding security cameras, you can't point your private security camera off your property. If you put it above your entrance, you can't point it to record the entire street. Afaik anyway. Parking spaces or business must visibly disclose that there's cameras, at least where they would not be generally expected. I'm not too sure about the specifics there though. |
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kent_eh
lemmy.ca
kent_eh@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-06 |
Everyone around you has a phone with a camera. Businesses and the government have additional cameras looking all over. The phone camera being less obvious and handsfree seems like an arbitrary choice of where to draw the line
Spy glasses are much less obvious than using a phone camera. |
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jaaake
lemmy.world
jaaake@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
I believe Bluetooth is always on with the Meta glasses, at least the last gen. They offload everything to the phone. I got a pair as a work gift and only use them as sunglasses with headphones built-in so I can listen to podcasts on walks.
My partner got a pair for work when they first came out (her job involves creating social media content). I was impressed by the speakers and itโs the same style of sunglasses that I normally wear daily, so I got a pair for myself. It was so nice to be able to listen to stuff and take calls without carry around headphones or putting them in when the phone rang. I was already uncomfortable with the association with meta, but was able to isolate that aspect at first. As they continued to add features, Iโve started being less comfortable with them. I accidentally left them somewhere a couple months ago and decided not to replace them. Itโs such a bummer that all the cool tech is now not just spying on you, but on everyone around you. Fuckin capitalism ruins everything. |
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m3t00๐๐บ๐ฆ
lemmy.world
m3t00@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-01 |
needs a disrupter to ignite it's batteries. js. what good is detection w/o counter measures |
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Imgonnatrythis
sh.itjust.works
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-09-23 |
I'm not going to argue with you anymore. Let's agree to disagree ๐
Technically one of us is supposed to call the other a cunt at this point, but will accept your breach of protocol. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
Spy glasses are much less obvious than using a phone camera.
Back to the 1960s....these were marketed to look at kids and girls.
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
In reply to an earlier post
you must be in the US, where everyone wears these
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
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ok, but they don't try and hide them do they?
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
I mean, that was sorta the point of the comment... I don't like them and therefore, I won't be using them, ever. I'd get a less obstructing headset instead. And, I wouldn't get a headset just to play around with it, I'd actually want to use it and try to get to it help me doing things.
It's only a matter of time before someone is arrested on suspicion of voyerism and there is evidence of him staring at some girl's boobs. Every guy does this, but "Looking at cleavage is like looking at the sun. You don't stare at it. It's too risky. Ya get a sense of it and then you look away!" -Jerry Seinfeld. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
While I agree that AR glasses will become widespread, there's still time to advocate for and implement privacy focused regulations. Especially early on as people are upset about the technology While not perfect solutions, enforcing stuff such as recording LEDs and such are steps in the right direction
I was picking up my new prescription glasses this week at a large mall. They had Ray Ban and Oakley Meta glasses and the clerk said they have not sold a single pair. |
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HobbitFoot
thelemmy.club
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club Joined: 2023-06-16 |
I know one engineer who bought the Meta glasses due to the form factor. For others with the Go Pro, they usually mount the cameras on their hard hat, which makes it easy to see since black hard hats are rare. |
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m3t00๐๐บ๐ฆ
lemmy.world
m3t00@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-01 |
are you filming this? ๐ |
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