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mrmaplebar fedia.io mrmaplebar@fedia.io
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Discord cut ties with its age-verification partner after exposed code fueled federal-reporting concerns, months after a breach hit 70,000 users.

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Lembot_0006 programming.dev Lembot_0006@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-12-08
#2 · Quote Reply

Discord: Sorry, we spied and report on you through software from a bad company. Be assured, we will spy and report on you through good company software from now on!

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Bahnd Rollard lemmy.world Bahnd@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-26
#3 · (edited) Quote Reply

[Insert South Park "We're Sorry" scene here]

Also, given the state of affairs and the lack of trust, I dont believe they are cutting them off. Assume the worst and do what you can to decouple from the platform I dont expect people to quit cold-turkey, but put in the effort, it takes a long time to degoogle yourself and given how ubiquitous discord was during the plague, I dont fault people for making sure lines of communication and contacts arnt broken.

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aramis87 fedia.io aramis87@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-03-07
#4 · Quote Reply

We should pretty much assume that all age verification efforts either currently are feeding into surveillance efforts, or will be bought out by surveillance companies.

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73rdNemesio infosec.pub 73rdnemesio@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-06-12
#5 · Quote Reply

Reminder: this changes nothing in their age verification requirements or telemetry gathering and training off your data/habits. They’re just going to use another invasive third party.

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new lemmy.world HollowedFleshwalker@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-24
#6 · Quote Reply

Reminder: this changes nothing in their age verification requirements or telemetry gathering and training off your data/habits. They’re just going to use another invasive third party.
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its_kim_love lemmy.blahaj.zone its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-10-14
#7 · Quote Reply

Whoops we accidentally picked something that will give the government your data. That wasn't our intention. Instead we're going to use an independent service so the government will have to buy it from us.

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potoooooooo 🥔 lemmy.world ivanafterall@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#8 · Quote Reply

Discord is fucked. You love to see it.

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not_so_handsome_jack sh.itjust.works not_so_handsome_jack@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-10-17
#9 · Quote Reply

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Where did you move? We're planning on stoat for our little server

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real_squids sopuli.xyz real_squids@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-03-08
#10 · Quote Reply

[Insert South Park "We're Sorry" scene here] Also, given the state of affairs and the lack of trust, I dont believe they are cutting them off. Assume the worst and do what you can to decouple from the platform I dont expect people to quit cold-turkey, but put in the effort, it takes a long time to degoogle yourself and given how ubiquitous discord was during the plague, I dont fault people for ...

I tried hosting my own TS server recently and it's easy as shit. Not as many features sure, but it's so snappy and it just works. Ideally I'd move to mumble and host it on some old laptop but as a backup thing I can't complain

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Wammityblam lemmy.world Wammityblam@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-08
#11 · Quote Reply

Too fuckin bad Discord. Damage is done.

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chunes lemmy.world chunes@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-04-08
#12 · Quote Reply

I went back to IRC a couple of weeks ago and it's been such a breath of fresh air to use good technology again.

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-12
#13 · Quote Reply

Thiel is in the Epstein files, literally is funding the destruction of our democracy and all democracies worldwide everyone Thiel should be arrested and charged with treason and sent to the hauge and be tried for crimes against humanity

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popcar2 piefed.ca popcar2@piefed.ca
Joined: 2025-11-30
#14 · Quote Reply

I tried hosting my own TS server recently and it's easy as shit. Not as many features sure, but it's so snappy and it just works. Ideally I'd move to mumble and host it on some old laptop but as a backup thing I can't complain

Teamspeak requires you to pay for a license to host a community of greater than 32 people though. I have much more faith in Fluxer, which just came out recently and has its servers getting hammered right now. It will have true self-hosting and federation. Also it looks exactly like Discord which probably makes moving to it easier.

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popcar2 piefed.ca popcar2@piefed.ca
Joined: 2025-11-30
#15 · Quote Reply

A nothingburger apology that follows the same patterns every company does

  1. Introduce outrageous thing

  2. Apologize

  3. delay outrageous thing by a few months and hope people forgot about it, then do it again

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kn0wmad1c programming.dev kn0wmad1c@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-21
#16 · Quote Reply

I dunno. The current state of the world might be making me more conspiracy-minded, but this feels like it was always part of the plan.

Introduce surveillance tech that Peter Thiel can use to spy/sell/whatever, announce that you're using it, expecting people to get angry, and now in the 11th hour, after harvesting all the data they get to announce "we're removing the evil software! We're the good guys again!"

I recognize that the current state of affairs is having me see demons everywhere, but I just can't bring myself to give discord a pat on the back.

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Typhoon lemmy.ca Typhoon@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-08-13
#17 · (edited) Quote Reply

We should pretty much assume that all age verification efforts either currently are feeding into surveillance efforts, or will be bought out by surveillance companies.

Exactly. Even if a smaller company is running ID verification now there's a very good chance they'll be bought up by a monster later and take all that data with them.

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mrmaplebar fedia.io mrmaplebar@fedia.io
Joined: 2025-09-27
#18 · (edited) Quote Reply

I went back to IRC a couple of weeks ago and it's been such a breath of fresh air to use good technology again.

Matrix might be worth a try too. It's kind of like a modernized IRC with limited discord-like functionality.

Stoat also seems pretty good, though it's more centralized than I'd like.

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paul lemmy.org paul@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-02-24
#19 · Quote Reply

I dunno. The current state of the world might be making me more conspiracy-minded, but this feels like it was always part of the plan. Introduce surveillance tech that Peter Thiel can use to spy/sell/whatever, announce that you're using it, expecting people to get angry, and now in the 11th hour, after harvesting all the data they get to announce "we're removing the evil software! We're the goo...

It's worse than that. They've said what they want to do and they want to get rid of democracy in place of a technocracy surveillance state.

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paul lemmy.org paul@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-02-24
#20 · Quote Reply

Thiel is in the Epstein files, literally is funding the destruction of our democracy and all democracies worldwide everyone Thiel should be arrested and charged with treason and sent to the hauge and be tried for crimes against humanity

Not just in them, good friends with Epstein and conspired with him to destabilise the west.

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DarkCloud lemmy.world DarkCloud@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-05-19
#21 · (edited) Quote Reply

Trump, thiel, musk - all their dads were Nazis.

Trump's dad hated black people and sheltered Nazis and the KKK, Thiel's dad is from a Nazi town in South Africa, Musk's father and grandfather went to South Africa just for the racism.

They're all stuck in that, and catching feelings because of it.

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melroy kbin.melroy.org melroy@kbin.melroy.org
Joined: 2023-06-20
#22 · Quote Reply

Too late Discord. I will never come back.

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FlashMobOfOne lemmy.world FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#23 · Quote Reply

This reminded me a whole lot of OnlyFans deciding to ban porn.

Just... stupid.

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paequ2 lemmy.today paequ2@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-01-21
#24 · Quote Reply

Too late! I'm moving to Fluxer!

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NotAnonymousAtAll feddit.org NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-22
#25 · Quote Reply

Teamspeak requires you to pay for a license to host a community of greater than 32 people though. I have much more faith in Fluxer, which just came out recently and has its servers getting hammered right now. It will have true self-hosting and federation. Also it looks exactly like Discord which probably makes moving to it easier.

https://matrix.org/ has been around for years and has had true self-hosting and federation from the start.

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ToTheGraveMyLove sh.itjust.works ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-29
#26 · Quote Reply

Discord publicly cut ties. What could they possibly do to convince us that it was legit?

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duncan_bayne lemmy.world duncan_bayne@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-10-10
#27 · Quote Reply

What a load of shit.

"Company cuts ties with leopard after customers notice leopard".

At this point, as a tech industry insider, you don't partner with the likes of Thiel or Karp without fully understanding who you're getting into bed with, or why.

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popcar2 piefed.ca popcar2@piefed.ca
Joined: 2025-11-30
#28 · Quote Reply

https://matrix.org/ has been around for years and has had true self-hosting and federation from the start.

Matrix is lacking all sorts of features and proper UX. I used it through multiple front-ends and every time it's just not good enough yet.

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Pappabosley lemmy.world Pappabosley@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#29 · Quote Reply

*after people found out it was tied to USA surveillance

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masterofn001 lemmy.ca masterofn001@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-12
#30 · Quote Reply

Peter thiel is everything wrong with the world.

He is a plague, a cancer, a curse.

He is in the Epstein files.

He likely had his gay lover killed for revealing he was gay.

Peter thiel is the enemy of humanity.

Peter thiel is an antichrist

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SippyCup lemmy.world SippyCup@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-01-26
#31 · Quote Reply

This reminded me a whole lot of OnlyFans deciding to ban porn. Just... stupid.

What uhh... What did they expect people to use it for?

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madmantis24 lemmy.wtf madmantis24@lemmy.wtf
Joined: 2026-01-14
#32 · Quote Reply

https://youtu.be/XwrJUn4ViaU

These corporations just keep giving me new reasons to reference this bit from Pat Boivin!

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PoopingCough lemmy.world PoopingCough@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#33 · (edited) Quote Reply

What uhh... What did they expect people to use it for?

Conceptually, it's always supposed to have been something akin to Patreon, where creators can be supported by fans via a subscription model. A combination of lax rules around nudity and probably sheer inertia meant that "creators" ended up being pretty much only sex workers. OF then tried to pivot away from that and we all knows how well that went.

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Bahnd Rollard lemmy.world Bahnd@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-26
#34 · Quote Reply

I tried hosting my own TS server recently and it's easy as shit. Not as many features sure, but it's so snappy and it just works. Ideally I'd move to mumble and host it on some old laptop but as a backup thing I can't complain

Ive hosted my own TS3 server for well over a decade and matrix was spooled up this past year. They both are good products and server their roles, but they dont line up 100% with Discord and its user reach.

I am hopefull TS6 gets the funding it needs to get out of beta and I wish the Fluxer dev the best (they are going to need it).

What this whole discord debacle needs to teach people is how to be independent regarding your communications, data and their storage.

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plz1 lemmy.world plz1@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-11
#35 · Quote Reply

What a load of shit. "Company cuts ties with leopard after customers notice leopard". At this point, as a tech industry insider, you don't partner with the likes of Thiel or Karp without fully understanding who you're getting into bed with, or why.

Yeah, they are only cutting ties due to the attention. They'll replace it with something just as bad, or worse.

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Gammelfisch lemmy.world Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-05
#36 · Quote Reply

I deleted Discord and will not return.

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village604 adultswim.fan village604@adultswim.fan
Joined: 2025-09-27
#37 · Quote Reply

A nothingburger apology that follows the same patterns every company does Introduce outrageous thing Apologize delay outrageous thing by a few months and hope people forgot about it, then do it again

Also governments.

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curbstickle anarchist.nexus curbstickle@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2025-08-25
#38 · Quote Reply

Teamspeak requires you to pay for a license to host a community of greater than 32 people though. I have much more faith in Fluxer, which just came out recently and has its servers getting hammered right now. It will have true self-hosting and federation. Also it looks exactly like Discord which probably makes moving to it easier.

https://github.com/fluxerapp/fluxer

Neat

Maybe I can spin something up for family to use instead of SMS.

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Pumpkin Escobar lemmy.world PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#39 · Quote Reply

What a load of shit. "Company cuts ties with leopard after customers notice leopard". At this point, as a tech industry insider, you don't partner with the likes of Thiel or Karp without fully understanding who you're getting into bed with, or why.

Yeah, they’re doing the right thing here as a PR move, they may have known about the shady bullshit or they might not have but if they didn’t I bet they didn’t even ask or care in any way.

Still time to find discord alternatives, luckily the landscape of alternatives seems a bit better than I expected.

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FlashMobOfOne lemmy.world FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#40 · Quote Reply

What uhh... What did they expect people to use it for?

No idea. :D

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jaykrown lemmy.world jaykrown@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-20
#41 · Quote Reply

I'm absolutely deleting my discord account once they update it with the age verification. The matrix protocol is a reasonable alternative https://joinmatrix.org/

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eddyizm lemmy.world eddyizm@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-10-14
#42 · Quote Reply

Am I the only going back to IRC? I'm not a gamer so I just use it for chat and setting up my own irc was straight forward. Even set up a webui for my friends who don't know how navigate irc through regular clients.

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sqauffle slrpnk.net sqauffle@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2026-02-05
#43 · Quote Reply

Too late hahahaha

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inclementimmigrant lemmy.world inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
#44 · Quote Reply

Matrix might be worth a try too. It's kind of like a modernized IRC with limited discord-like functionality. Stoat also seems pretty good, though it's more centralized than I'd like.

I think stoat would be viable of they had voice chat working with their self hosting option but yeah, right now it's a no for me because of that.

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AngryRobot lemmy.world AngryRobot@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-08
#45 · Quote Reply

I'm absolutely deleting my discord account once they update it with the age verification. The matrix protocol is a reasonable alternative https://joinmatrix.org/

I saw a report earlier today that they've "postponed" the age verification due to public backlash. If they DO implement it, I'm gone.

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motruck lemmy.zip motruck@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-23
#46 · Quote Reply

Too little too late fuck you discord.

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BoJackHorseman lemmy.world BoJackHorseman@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-11
#47 · (edited) Quote Reply

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DudeImMacGyver kbin.earth DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth
Joined: 2025-01-11
#48 · Quote Reply

Cut ties huh? Isn't he their main VC investor?

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The D Quuuuuill slrpnk.net Quill7513@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-06-26
#49 · Quote Reply

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America has been a surveillance state since 2002. also America controls Israel, not the other way around

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howler lemmy.world howler@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#50 · Quote Reply

Deleted my discord rooms, left every room i was in, requested my acct deleted, uninstalled from every device. Moved to matrix & fluxer.

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Earthman_Jim lemmy.zip Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-12-28
#51 · Quote Reply

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Peter Theil doesn't seem driven by religion to me... He sees religion as a tool, like all powerful people.

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