Link: https://nos.nl/artikel/2603848-in-vijf-jaar-minder-afhankelijk-van-amerikaanse-ict-reuzen-kan-denkt-dnb

Banken, verzekeraars en pensioenfondsen zouden beter moeten samenwerken, maar ook moeten de regels voor bijvoorbeeld aanbestedingen worden aangepast.

Where is this crowd sourced list? I don't have time.

It took me 11 months to move away from all US tech and services personally. I have only 2 domains at namecheap and cloudflare for one service left. Everything else is done, I started out with a list that spanned 3 DIN A4 pages last year.

Also switched from Apple to Linux and iOS to Graphene OS.

No list it seems, no study, this guy is just pulling things out of his ass.

It's a LOT different when you need uptime garuntees.

Dump all American products and services!

Even if it were true, that would be no reason not to get started. Every bit of reduced dependency is good.

AWS was down a lot more often than my private server in the last few years. And it took half the internet with it each time. Not so sure about guaranteed uptime.

Hyperscalers always boast about uptime, fail over, resilience, etc etc. The thing is, the majority of customers using the hyper scalers as is actually do not get those guaranteed at all.
If really wanted to have them, you'd need to pay a hefty premium contractually as well as on how your infra is managed, effectively tripling or more your infra cost, not accounting for additional cost for good SLA response times, getting access to real knowledgeable support staff, ...

I think I wasn't specific enough. Uptime being availability of the software or service to the government employees that use it.

There is also this FD (Financial newspaper) article that covers the press conference:

DNB: financiële sector moet binnen vijf jaar minder afhankelijk zijn van VS
(link to archived version: https://archive.is/FsnM7)

It doesn't say that much more than the NOS article, but here is their summary (translated by Deepl):

In brief

• DNB warns of the risks associated with dependence on American IT service providers.
• The regulator wants financial institutions to take responsibility.
• Flexible contracts and joint procurement, among other measures, should help to reduce dependence.

Then stop forcing google play services...

A lot of Benelux banks require magisk and hiding that you aren't using a specific google branded android version if you use a community ROM.

The feature parity and global distribution isn't there though. Sure you can make it work, but it's going to be a chunk of extra engineering on top of the switch.

Good luck to the exec pushing for that change in most financial institutions!

That said, I could see those trying to do multi cloud picking a European secondary.

I wrote to my country's competition authority but neither of us had required knowledge to fully understand the ask, they just pointed me toward the digital euro and wero whereas I was pushing for mandating alternatives to google and apple services to allow for contactless without their involvement.

Switching is how you get feature parity. Why would anyone contributing to FOSS be all "Oh I think I'll develop this one feature that no one but a few specific big banks want."

Just deal with it for now, and then put whatever money you previously put towards these expensive closed down services to developing what you need in the FOSS space. It's not complicated.

As a bank, we're currently migrating from on-prem to cloud.

Google and Azure ofc

Same in large fintech company...

5 years seems like a very long time... are these groups not aware of the impending implosion of the AI market?

Fine...

It will be EU Play Services.*

Happy Now??

*EU Play Services is a subsidiary of Alphabet in the EU for attesting apps on your Android smartphone, which is totally not funneling data to the government and USA.

They need to make sure there are enough prisons and gallows for the people who caused this shit.

It's mostly an architectural failure. Only one of the Amazon outages in the past decade was truly platform-wide. If you stood up VM's in US-West, Singapore and Ireland, stood up dedicated HA storage clusters in each zone, you'd be sitting at 5x9s.

You just really need to stay out of managed services, the upside them is you can stand up HA/FT in any provider.

i hated it so much. I wasn't able to pay few times because my phone couldn't pass integrity checks whenever Google pushed updates

thankfully, the EU is a bit better than that at making regulations