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Quilotoa
lemmy.ca
Quilotoa@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-04-01 |
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cattywampas
lemmy.world
cattywampas@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-30 |
Well...yeah |
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freagle
lemmy.ml
frisbird@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-11-24 |
Incomplete. There are also rythmic and non-grammatical timing variations. |
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Bluegrass_Addict
lemmy.ca
Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-10-21 |
Incomplete. There are also rythmic and non-grammatical timing variations.
choooooeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaahaahhoooooooooooowwwwwww fundeeeeeeeedeeeeeee bogoooooooooooooooo choooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahahahhhhaaaaaaa |
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Pommes_für_dein_Balg
feddit.org
mech@feddit.org Joined: 2025-10-06 |
It's actually not. When you talk, you translate thoughts and meaning into words in real time. |
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supersquirrel
sopuli.xyz
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-12-09 |
I found William Shatner's lemmy account. |
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WastedJobe
feddit.org
Jobe@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-23 |
It's actually not. People with a bad stutter can often sing fluently. And with enough training, you can sing like a native speaker without understanding any of the words. When you talk, you translate thoughts and meaning into words in real time. When you sing, you reproduce words you've memorized and trained into muscle memory. It's a completely different neural pathway.
It goes further than that. Different singing techniques use more or entirely different muscle groups than talking. Some more extreme metal vocal techniques bypass the vocal cords almost entirely. Y'all should watch the Charismatic Voice videos where they stuck cameras and stuff down Will Ramos' throat. |
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AbouBenAdhem
lemmy.world
AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Everything else we do is just breathing with more motor activity. |
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7uWqKj
lemmy.world
7uWqKj@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-27 |
Take singing lessons and you’ll very soon understand that it’s absolutely not. |
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😈MedicPig🐷BabySaver😈
lemmy.world
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-04 |
No |
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village604
adultswim.fan
village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
It goes further than that. Different singing techniques use more or entirely different muscle groups than talking. Some more extreme metal vocal techniques bypass the vocal cords almost entirely. Y'all should watch the Charismatic Voice videos where they stuck cameras and stuff down Will Ramos' throat.
I don't think metal is bypassing the vocal chords so much as it's using what are essentially vestigial vocal chords. I'm able to do throat singing, and it definitely feels different from normal talking or singing. I can occasionally sing polyphonically doing it, but it requires a perfect storm of allergies cooperating and warming up to the point that my throat muscles start gassing out. |
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village604
adultswim.fan
village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
It's actually not. People with a bad stutter can often sing fluently. And with enough training, you can sing like a native speaker without understanding any of the words. When you talk, you translate thoughts and meaning into words in real time. When you sing, you reproduce words you've memorized and trained into muscle memory. It's a completely different neural pathway.
Iirc completely different regions of the brain are activated too. There was a case of a woman years back who had some sort of brain damage and lost the ability to speak, but could still sing. |
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Mantzy81
aussie.zone
Mantzy81@aussie.zone Joined: 2025-03-09 |
It's actually not. People with a bad stutter can often sing fluently. And with enough training, you can sing like a native speaker without understanding any of the words. When you talk, you translate thoughts and meaning into words in real time. When you sing, you reproduce words you've memorized and trained into muscle memory. It's a completely different neural pathway.
This also explains why you can sing songs without actually hearing or understanding the lyrics e.g. all the right-leaning folks who were shocked RATM were singing political songs, or anyone who sings anything in a language they don't know (which, as a former choir singer, was common) |
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ParlimentOfDoom
piefed.zip
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip Joined: 2025-09-26 |
I found William Shatner's lemmy account.
He just wants to live like common people. |
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MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown
fedia.io
MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-03-07 |
Everything else we do is just breathing with more motor activity.
Except free diving |
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CombatWombat
feddit.online
CombatWombat@feddit.onlineJoined: 2025-09-09 |
It's actually not. People with a bad stutter can often sing fluently. And with enough training, you can sing like a native speaker without understanding any of the words. When you talk, you translate thoughts and meaning into words in real time. When you sing, you reproduce words you've memorized and trained into muscle memory. It's a completely different neural pathway.
If you’re comparing freestyling (assuming it’s fully improvised) is this still the case? What about reciting a memorized poem? (I agree with you, I’m just curious if you know where the boundaries are because I sure don’t) |
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FreshParsnip
lemmy.ca
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-07-02 |
It's actually not. People with a bad stutter can often sing fluently. And with enough training, you can sing like a native speaker without understanding any of the words. When you talk, you translate thoughts and meaning into words in real time. When you sing, you reproduce words you've memorized and trained into muscle memory. It's a completely different neural pathway.
I once danced with a friend while we both sang along with "love the way you lie". I was surprised to discover, a few minutes later in conversation, they had no idea what the lyrics were about |
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YeahIgotskills2
lemmy.world
YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-09-22 |
Of course, there are also tonal languages. I find it quite interesting that in some parts of the world the same written sentence can have an entirely different meaning depending on the inflection of the words. |
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gandalf_der_12te
discuss.tchncs.de
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2024-01-12 |
No i think there's also rhythm to it. Fun fact: Many people who stutter can sing just fine. I attribute it to the fact that music enforces a certain rhythm and that makes you move on with your speech more fluently than you would otherwise do. I think i should know that because i also used to stutter a bit earlier in my life. I never got the hang of talking. I started adding a bit of rhythm to my speech, so when i talk it always has a certain rhythm in its background. If you actually listen, you could notice. It's subtle, though. It helps me stutter far far less. :-) |
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gandalf_der_12te
discuss.tchncs.de
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2024-01-12 |
Everything else we do is just breathing with more motor activity.
Nope. there's three domains that are typically distinguished: the biochemical, mechanical, and neural level. You wouldn't call a thinking process a "motor activity" since the ideal neural net has practically no moving parts, similar to an ideal computing machine. |
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