I guess he doesn't need my vote then.

He's explicitly anti-trans, anti-unhoused. He will never get my vote.

Sure buddy, maybe this time we'll get those hypothetical moderate votes.

If you think I’m CuLtUraLlY aBnOrMaL then don’t worry about getting my vote 🤷‍♂️

Have you considered that perhaps the problem is that people like you consider us "culturally un-normal"? We exist. We aren't going anywhere. Get the fuck over it.

Like the Republicans have ever cared about being normal. They're the weirdest motherfuckers there are. But they're proof-positive that if you give something concrete to vote for, that people will vote for you, even if it's fucking stupid. Maybe instead of campaigning on "we're not them" the Democrats can pick something to fight for; actually making an affirmative case for something rather than defaulting to the mean of the mythical "average voter" that makes no sense in reality anyway.

Gavin Newsome needs to suck the peanuts out of my poo

Man, the democrats really are trying to make the 2028 election as narrow as possible

Culturally normal like all the people in the Epstein Files?

They killed "Vote blue no matter who." when they failed to line up behind Mamdani. If it has to be Newsom or Vance, I'll vote for Vance. Not expecting better of the Democrats will do far more harm in the long run.

That's a pretty insane take given reality and observable facts.

Is it really? I think we'd be a hell of a lot better off today if Trump won in 2020 instead of 2024. I also think we'd be better off if George Bush Sr. beat Clinton in 1992. The wrong Democrat is far more damaging in the long term than any Republican.

Strategically, politically, and economically is what I was talking about. the dark folks puppeting the GOP and trump we caught off guard last time. Now they ere prepared and are making huge plays that destabilize and put the US into inexorable decline. This one wasn't one we come back from.
Now, that said, your point of view is something I did make assumptions about. If you mean just for the average citizen over the next few years, maybe a decade...then yeah, it should be okish. I wouldn't be hopeful, but it isn't end of days stuff yet. Also, if you position is as someone external to the US, then yeah, the ultimate fall of the US is absolutely a wonderful thing as larger external muntinational groups are forming in preparation for such a fall and to become self-reliant. The EU has a lot to gain from this collapse.
So, in a way, you are right.

Reps should be more culturally normal and stop promoting Nazis worldwide

Strategically, voting in the wrong Democrats is what enabled the Republicans to do all of that. The US was in decline long before this batch of Republicans, and the Clintons had a lot to do with it.

Gavin Newsom believes in nothing. I honestly don't see any reason to believe he would govern any differently than Vance. He's nothing but a political opportunist, and the opportunities he seems drawn to are all coming from the right. Having Vance in office would fire up progressive resistance. Newsom would drive progressives to despair.

Cannot be stressed enough. Neolibs like Newsom are just as mired in the Epstein files as the rest of them. Participants and protectors both. Servants of the Epstein class.

If you genuinely want to shut republicans up about trans issues I'm pretty sure countering with "why are you so fixated on transgender people? Are you a chaser or something?" Would go a long way.

If they can sacrifice queer people, what stops them from sacrificing other groups?

If you let him to win the primaries. You need to do everything within your ability to stop him from winning.