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Watching AI companies complain that their intellectual property is not being respected will never stop being hilarious
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cm0002 infosec.pub cm0002@infosec.pub
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Tar_Alcaran sh.itjust.works Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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Also pictured here: Anthropic stating out loud their models will just give out all the "secret" and "secured" internal data to anyone who asks.

Of course, that's by design. LLMs can't have any barrier between data and instructions, so they can never be secure.

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Hackworth piefed.ca Hackworth@piefed.ca
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Here's the Anthropic post.

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mindbleach sh.itjust.works mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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In undue fairness, there is a difference between turning text files into a chatbot, and exfiltrating that chatbot. One is transformative, and the other is making a megaphone out of some string, a squirrel, and a megaphone.

But if I don't give a shit about companies doing math on Disney DVDs I'm not about to give a shit about them hoarding their big pile of numbers. I'm jazzed when source code leaks for things written by people.

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Hackworth piefed.ca Hackworth@piefed.ca
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Also pictured here: Anthropic stating out loud their models will just give out all the "secret" and "secured" internal data to anyone who asks. Of course, that's by design. LLMs can't have any barrier between data and instructions, so they can never be secure.

Distillation is using one model to train another. It's not really about leaking data.

Claude was used to generate censorship-safe alternatives to politically sensitive queries like questions about dissidents, party leaders, or authoritarianism, likely in order to train DeepSeek’s own models to steer conversations away from censored topics

But you're right, prompt injection/jailbreaking is still trivial too.

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Mika piefed.ca Mika@piefed.ca
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0_o7 lemmy.dbzer0.com 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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When they steal: Innovative approach to knowledge acquisition

When others steal: A threat to free market by IP violation

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