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baatliwala
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Ulrich
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Ulrich@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-12-22 |
This is a great example of why mAh is a stupid metric. Double the voltage and you have the same capacity but through the power of marketing you can mislead people into thinking the battery life is increased. The proper metric is Wh. |
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mcSlibinas
lemmy.world
mcSlibinas@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-02-18 |
This is a great example of why mAh is a stupid metric. Double the voltage and you have the same capacity but through the power of marketing you can mislead people into thinking the battery life is increased. The proper metric is Wh.
chinesium phones have 20000mAh with the same voltage as usual 5000mAh phone batteries. Wh will be better, yet now we have what we have - the same voltage batteries for most phones. |
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brillotti
lemmy.world
brillotti@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-08 |
This is a great example of why mAh is a stupid metric. Double the voltage and you have the same capacity but through the power of marketing you can mislead people into thinking the battery life is increased. The proper metric is Wh.
Is this not measured at a standard 3.7V for phone batteries? Edit: In the article it's measured at 4.53V. |
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Ulrich
feddit.org
Ulrich@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-12-22 |
Is this not measured at a standard 3.7V for phone batteries? Edit: In the article it's measured at 4.53V.
Usually yes, but it doesn't have to be. |
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Markaos
discuss.tchncs.de
Markaos@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2024-11-20 |
This is a great example of why mAh is a stupid metric. Double the voltage and you have the same capacity but through the power of marketing you can mislead people into thinking the battery life is increased. The proper metric is Wh.
Absolutely agree with the fact that mAh should never have been used as a measurement of battery capacity, but increasing the voltage (while keeping the same actual capacity in Wh) makes the mAh rating lower, not higher. 1 Wh 1 V battery can provide 1 A (1000 mA) for an hour (1 V * 1 A = 1 W, 1 Wh / 1 W = 1 h) - that would be 1000 mAh. 1 Wh 2 V battery can only provide 1 A for half an hour (2 V * 1 A = 2 W, 1 Wh / 2 W = 0.5 h), and that gives you only 500 mA. |
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emergencyfood
sh.itjust.works
emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Good. Now make it replaceable. |
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Ulrich
feddit.org
Ulrich@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-12-22 |
Absolutely agree with the fact that mAh should never have been used as a measurement of battery capacity, but increasing the voltage (while keeping the same actual capacity in Wh) makes the mAh rating lower, not higher. 1 Wh 1 V battery can provide 1 A (1000 mA) for an hour (1 V * 1 A = 1 W, 1 Wh / 1 W = 1 h) - that would be 1000 mAh. 1 Wh 2 V battery can only provide 1 A for half an hour (2 V ...
lower, higher, whatever, it's manipulation of pointless numbers. |
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JustEnoughDucks
feddit.nl
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nlJoined: 2023-06-12 |
This is a great example of why mAh is a stupid metric. Double the voltage and you have the same capacity but through the power of marketing you can mislead people into thinking the battery life is increased. The proper metric is Wh.
Not in electronics. Wh is a pretty difficult metric in electronics design (and thus, speccing the time a battery will last). I have said this before because all ICs use mA as their power consumption rating because they might have a range of 1.8V-3.6V of operation or 4.5-10V or something and they consume about the same amount of current across that spectrum but vary in power. This is why low power systems often use 1.8V. Batteries also vary in delivered power at a constant load. They can pull 100mA continuously, but a lithium ion cell delivers 420mW first and then continually falls until it delivers only 250mW, almost half as much. What is easier to calculate?
"get starting SoC from memory and voltage" "measure current once" Again, not saying it is "correct", but significantly easier on all levels. For the consumer. Why does it matter? There is absolutely no specs every given for actual power used. Does your phone use 1W or 5W or 100mW on average? Never given. Batteries are literally just "bigger = better". Using Wh instead mAh would not change this at all. The only thing it would do is expose the 1% that try to fudge the numbers while everyone else just fudges power consumption. Oh you got X phone because Y phone only had a 13Wh battery instead of 18Wh. Oh too bad, phone X uses an average of 9W and only lasts for 2 hours. Phone Y used 0.5W. |
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