Digg's officially launched now for about a month and it's... really underwhelming.

The "Most Dugg" posts by upvotes as of this post:

+110, +107, +89, +86, +84, +84, +79, +79 (roughly in the last 24 hours)

As compared to Lemmy/Piefed/Mbin as seen on Lemmy.world (Top in last 24 hours):

+1.22k, +952, +855, +751, +669, +646, +620, +612

That's really poor from Digg honestly.

Keeping in mind that I didn't use Digg much back in the day, I don't really understand the idea of re-launching a service that fell out of use in the first place.

Or if MySpace (etc) was to relaunch with modern features, could it expect to succeed out of nostalgia, or something..?

I think the hype is propped up by money and astroturfing, I don't expect it will last

You halfway answered your own question there. Just like in games and movies, they are lazily leaning on nostalgia in the hopes that it will magically generate some money.

Nostalgia and hoping to grab users as they abandon reddit, which is where the users originally moved in the first place.

You think? With those things you mention, you can make a product that pushes the right buttons, hits the right notes, and be done with it, letting it sell itself on its own from that point forward.

Now compare that to relaunching a major social media platform and keeping it alive with investor money until it eventually and hopefully 'makes it.' Seems like a considerably different thing to me.

I'm reminded of the Arsenio Hall Show which ran from '89-94, did well for its time, but whose shelf life kind of naturally expired. They tried to bring it back in 2013, but cancelled it after a single season, because... nostalgia could only prop it up for so long. Or something like that.

What hype? I was only barely aware it relaunched itself.

Reddit users lol

There is a myspace clone I saw about 2 years ago. I was new to the fediverse. I THOUGHT the myspace clone was part of the fediverse. It wasn't.

I was going to join, but turns out this service was not open source. It's not part of the fediverse. It's essentially just some guy running the service, and can freely read anyones messages.

So I didn't join. But if there were an open source federated version of myspace? Yes. I would join.

Oh right, I forgot I had a Digg account. It's so boring and non-consequential I really forgot that I signed up back before the beta came out. I just spent a couple minutes looking at it and there is so little interesting content it's embarrassing. I don't know if it's being sanitized but there is literally nothing interesting there.

Really? What about it do you miss? (presuming)

Friendica says "hello".

Ah, ok. I don't use reddit any more.

I thought that was facebook?

Yup. I think I've only visited twice since I signed up. There's no reason.

I'm surprised they're not just lying on their metrics and vote counts tbh

that ship has long sailed to REDDIT, and they arnt going back.

Fuck Digg fuck Reddit

Heard of digg, tried it, huge NFT and ai thumpers there. Wouldn’t recommend

I honestly haven't even gone to look at it yet. I'm totally satisfied with Lemmy, why bother?

Despite that my niche community is doing better on digg with the same level of effort

Isn't the new Digg significantly younger though?

I totally forgot about that.

Good!

Yes, it's relaunched.

They wanna differenciate themselves from reddit ;)

I can't believe people are still selling NFTs!

The problem was that they launched with barely any mod or curation tools, and haven't really added anything since. Rimu, just one guy, should not be having a better development cycle than something like Digg after launch - especially when most of the things they need to add are pretty basic currently.

Because if something exists in a vacuum, without challenge, then theres no motivation for betterment and no repercussions for enshitification.

Yeah I like the whole thing I've been on there for a couple months and it just is repetition after repetition not very many posts it's worse than here.

fair enough but I'm not a Lemmy dev and Digg is still dead to me from the last time they died, which was for a good reason

I was here when lemmy was mostly reposts of reddit shit. Now we've grown so much

And then I found out: The cohost of Diggnation is Alex Albrecht. His father is a fellow at the Heritage Foundation and one of the authors of Project 2025.

It had a large following back in the day. They haven't attracted hardly anyone back. So they did have a potential jumpstart with previous users that they have failed to energize and capture.

and can freely read anyones messages.

You do realize this is true of any service, yes? Unless there is 1:1 end-to-end encryption, perhaps. Even there, unless you're pasting in encrypted data into the app, the app can potentially send your unencrypted data somewhere.

Too young to actually exist (or gain consciousness ig) when Myspace was popular, but ain't Facebook just Myspace but "better"? So therefore Frendica is "Fediverse Better Myspace"?

ain’t Facebook just Myspace but “better”?

furious

Get.

Out!

That may all be true and all, but other services aren't one guy.

It would be like signing up for a fediverse instance, which uses closed source software, and it's just one guy running the service for a small amount of people.

I don't know who runs Lemmy.world, but at no point do I think the admins are targeting me, to read through my inbox. My judgement says that's not what the admins are doing with their time.

But this myspace clone had 300ish registered members on a single centralized closed source platform being run and created by one guy with zero oversight. I can't say that he created the service specifically to spy on people, but it certainly doesn't pass the sniff test.

*actively stirs

It’s interesting hearing “There’s nothing on Digg it’s dead, fediverse is more active” because when I joined Lemmy people were using the same comparison of reddit vs the fediverse. Things take time to build and they are still in beta. Lemmy is way more active and settled than when I first joined (hell I originally joined kbin instead). It’s good to have competition. I am active on both and I believe they will have different demographics.

This is really good to know. Are you aware if this has ever been addressed by them or anyone else ever?

wonder if someone's made a map of all p2025/heritage foundation connections

My niche community already works better on digg

Are you just suggesting Lemmy needs competition? It has plenty of competition with PieFed and Mbin. Also in a way, every instance is competing with the others. Especially when talking about enshitification, the competition of instances is a big deal. Even if the software goes bad, good instances can just stay on the old good version, and fork it together.

Some things will definitely work better over there.

IKR it was weird and ridiculous

I understand how probable things can be, but good lord, I would be so aggravated if people judged me based on my father's politics

You'd think this was a safe prediction, yet here we are.

Better to close the doors and redo it before ending up like reddit. In reddit’s case they welcome it.