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Trump advisers ‘would prefer if Israel bombs Iran first as the politics are better’
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supersquirrel sopuli.xyz supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
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“There’s thinking in and around the administration that the politics are a lot better if the Israelis go first and alone and the Iranians retaliate against us, and give us more reason to take action,” one of the sources told Politico under the condition of anonymity.

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flamingo_pinyata sopuli.xyz flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz
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Emotional support Israel

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village604 adultswim.fan village604@adultswim.fan
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Emotional support Israel

They can cower behind the antisemitism shield where we can't.

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supersquirrel sopuli.xyz supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
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Emotional support Israel

Except we are clearly setting up our emotional support Israel to take all of the blame when this goes south, which it will....and Israel will deserve blame for it, they are foaming at the mouth for regional war but the US will spin around and say "we've been deceived by the jews again!" to get out of admitting to itself how fucked up the US is all by itself.

Cue history repeating itself in the same violent, xenophobic, stupid ways...

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pelespirit sh.itjust.works pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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No one wants you to bomb Iran idiots.

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supersquirrel sopuli.xyz supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
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No one wants you to bomb Iran idiots.

Yes well it will be a pre-emptive strike in terms of legality and public approval in the sense that the strike pre-empts anyone in their right mind supporting it or there being any non-bullshit legal basis for it.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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Israel already tried this with their 12-Day War and ate shit when their David's Sling and Arrow system got riddled with ballistic buckshot.

Do they have an appetite for another active engagement? Idk. Seems like they prefer to go after softer targets

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John Richard lemmy.world timewarp@lemmy.world
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Democrats would prefer Israel bombs Iran first.

Fixed it for you.

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Rhaedas fedia.io Rhaedas@fedia.io
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So the same strategy they're trying with ICE at home. Do little actions to get a reaction that gives an excuse to hit back harder. Sounds fascist. Because it is.

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supersquirrel sopuli.xyz supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
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So the same strategy they're trying with ICE at home. Do little actions to get a reaction that gives an excuse to hit back harder. Sounds fascist. Because it is.

Exactly!

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supersquirrel sopuli.xyz supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
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Israel already tried this with their 12-Day War and ate shit when their David's Sling and Arrow system got riddled with ballistic buckshot. Do they have an appetite for another active engagement? Idk. Seems like they prefer to go after softer targets

No but Trump has an appetite for firing off all the air defenses that the US and Europe could use to resist Russia/give in aid to Ukraine and the air defense missile companies would love to have their buy orders full for the next 10 years from dumping the entire interceptor stock in an intense war with Iran.

If US service members die in missile strikes on bases in the middle east, all the better for underlining the stock market value of air defense missile companies.

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LifeInMultipleChoice lemmy.world LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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They can cower behind the antisemitism shield where we can't.

It really has been used as anti-Israel actions is anti-Semitism, which is a load of horseshit. If the U.S. bombs Iran and people criticize it, it's Anti-U.S. sentiment, not Anti-christian sentiment, unless all Christians suddenly say bombing Iran is what God wants.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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No but Trump has an appetite for firing off all the air defenses that the US and Europe could use to resist Russia/give in aid to Ukraine and the air defense missile companies would love to have their buy orders full for the next 10 years from dumping the entire interceptor stock in an intense war with Iran. If US service members die in missile strikes on bases in the middle east, all the bette...

US and Europe could use to resist Russia

Grizzlies owner Robert Pera's tech company linked to Russia in war, per report

Telecommunications equipment made by the company of Memphis Grizzlies owner Robert Pera is being used by the Russian military in its war against Ukraine, according to a report from Hunterbrook Media.

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In the report, Hunterbook Media revealed video where Wi-Fi equipment made by Ubiquiti is being shown on the front lines in the Russia-Ukraine war. The equipment reportedly has helped Russia use drones that have targeted civilians in Ukraine.

"Without Ubiquiti, these drones in Russia, the ones leading to massacres, would not work," Hunterbrook reporter Sam Koppelman said on the "Pablo Torre Finds Out" podcast on Jan. 27. "They would be flying blind."

The US and Europe are profiting massively off this conflict. They don't want it to end.

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crusa187 lemmy.ml crusa187@lemmy.ml
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Except we are clearly setting up our emotional support Israel to take all of the blame when this goes south, which it will....and Israel will deserve blame for it, they are foaming at the mouth for regional war but the US will spin around and say "we've been deceived by the jews again!" to get out of admitting to itself how fucked up the US is all by itself. Cue history repeating itself in the ...

Clearly Israel is the only one who wants this war, the US is just following orders.

This is why US shouldn’t allow its politicians to be up for sale, but alas, hard to fix stupid.

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supersquirrel sopuli.xyz supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
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Clearly Israel is the only one who wants this war, the US is just following orders. This is why US shouldn’t allow its politicians to be up for sale, but alas, hard to fix stupid.

There is no clearly delineating the idea of US and Israel in this foreign policy context, it is a continuous enmeshed concept, Israel is a vassal state of the US, I don't say that condescendingly, that is what it is.

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unexposedhazard discuss.tchncs.de unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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No one wants you to bomb Iran idiots.

Israel does...

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grimpy lemmy.myserv.one grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one
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“Actually, I’d prefer not” - Bartleby the Scrivener by Herman Melville

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yucandu lemmy.world yucandu@lemmy.world
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They can cower behind the antisemitism shield where we can't.

I don't think people care about anti semitism so much anymore. Or any of the other isms for that matter.

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village604 adultswim.fan village604@adultswim.fan
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I don't think people care about anti semitism so much anymore. Or any of the other isms for that matter.

They absolutely do

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village604 adultswim.fan village604@adultswim.fan
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It really has been used as anti-Israel actions is anti-Semitism, which is a load of horseshit. If the U.S. bombs Iran and people criticize it, it's Anti-U.S. sentiment, not Anti-christian sentiment, unless all Christians suddenly say bombing Iran is what God wants.

If I were a practicing Jew I'd be furious if people kept conflating my faith with the state of Israel.

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Wataba sh.itjust.works Wataba@sh.itjust.works
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Democrats would prefer Israel bombs Iran first. Fixed it for you.
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dream_weasel sh.itjust.works dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works
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Democrats would prefer Israel bombs Iran first. Fixed it for you.

Have the day your vote gave us.

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dan69 lemmy.world dan69@lemmy.world
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#23 · (edited) Quote Reply

Israel: we will if US gives us the bombs

US: 👀

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NorskSud piefed.social NorskSud@piefed.social
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No one wants you to bomb Iran idiots.

There are literally dozens of Iranians asking for it on European streets. Demonstrations every week, often very explicitly asking for that.

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John Richard lemmy.world timewarp@lemmy.world
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You don't fit the extremist type at all. I hope you have a great day & possibly check in with your psychiatrist.

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
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#26 · (edited) Quote Reply

The new Axis of Evil. Shitler and pedolini. I’d say more than likely Israel is going to bomb a us ship as a false flag operation so pedolini can justify a regime change war.

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
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There are literally dozens of Iranians asking for it on European streets. Demonstrations every week, often very explicitly asking for that.

Sounds like a mossad psyop

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mrdown lemmy.world mrdown@lemmy.world
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No one wants you to bomb Iran idiots.

I saw a couple on lemmy unfortunatly

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altphoto lemmy.today altphoto@lemmy.today
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The cuck wars!

I like it when they start my war! Grrrr! Yeah baby!

C'mon and drop'em! We love to see you guys doing it! We should take video so we can replay it later.... Alone.... In the dark.

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harmbugler piefed.social harmbugler@piefed.social
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Yes well it will be a pre-emptive strike in terms of legality and public approval in the sense that the strike pre-empts anyone in their right mind supporting it or there being any non-bullshit legal basis for it.

But Trump totally obliterated their nuclear capability

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Aqarius lemmy.world Aqarius@lemmy.world
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Sounds like a mossad psyop

Not necessarily. It could also be the MEK.

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Aqarius lemmy.world Aqarius@lemmy.world
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Scratch a liberal...

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CrypticCoffee lemmy.ml CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml
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Should have give him the peace prize...

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NorskSud piefed.social NorskSud@piefed.social
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Sounds like a mossad psyop

When a regime kills 30.000 protestors in a few days don't be surprised that their exiled family members ask the regime to be bombed. I fully understand them.

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Basic Glitch sh.itjust.works AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works
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Probably the first time Trump has ever said "You go first, I insist." in his entire life.

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
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When a regime kills 30.000 protestors in a few days don't be surprised that their exiled family members ask the regime to be bombed. I fully understand them.

Where did that number come from? That’s a propaganda narrative and a made up number. The United States and Israel are rogue fascist regimes ignoring international law at this point. Our media has been actively and publicly consolidated into pro Israel hands like Larry Ellison’s recent acquisition of tic toc and abc. I don’t believe it and I don’t believe we are doing this for liberation. We have imposed harsh sanctions on Iran for decades. With everything that is happening inside of our own country it is very hard to believe that human rights is the agenda for this administration. Mossad and the cia were in the protests killing people or funding and arming opposition because that is our playbook for regime change. Bombing or an Invasion of Iran would not be for the benefit of the Iranian people. Over a million people died in Iraq and the fabricated document stating that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction given to Colin Powell to present to the UN was from Israel. There’s countless footage of Bibi stating that Iran is manufacturing nukes and is a threat since the 80’s trying to instigate American military intervention. This is being done for the greater Israel project only. The greater Israel project is a settler colonialist expansion project that replaces the indigenous population with settlers through land grabs and genocide. Israel is by far the most dangerous and violent country on earth at this point they are constantly bombing their neighbors and annexing territory. Israel killed at least 70k (but probably way more) in Gaza to steal their land and they still aren’t letting journalists or humanitarian aid into Gaza to get an accurate assessment of the reality. We do know that the UN has determined that it was a genocide and over 100 countries have issued arrest warrants for Netanyahu. We need to stand down and completely divest from Israel and allow the un to do a full investigation of Gaza. The United States has threatened the EU, Canada, Mexico and several others at this point in pedogate and were starving Cuba to install disastrous American capitalism that is failing here in our own country so the pedo class can have more.

https://www.resistusledwarmovement.com/uploads/1/1/0/0/110020547/full_series_-_iran_hybrid_warfare_weapons_watch_compressed.pdf

https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/newswire/man-cried-bomb-netanyahu-spent-30-years-warning-irans-nuclear-weapons-imminent/

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Hemingways_Shotgun lemmy.ca Adderbox76@lemmy.ca
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#37 · Quote Reply

I don't think people care about anti semitism so much anymore. Or any of the other isms for that matter.

Or any of the other isms for that matter

I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me." Good point there. After all, he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off people.”

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redsand infosec.pub redsand@infosec.pub
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No one wants you to bomb Iran idiots.

Ghislaine Maxwell does and she's Queen of the world. The US and UK shall bend to her will.

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MrFinnbean lemmy.world MrFinnbean@lemmy.world
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Probably the first time Trump has ever said "You go first, I insist." in his entire life.

Dont know. Some things he have said makes me think he likes to walk behind his daughters.

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GreenBeanMachine lemmy.world GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world
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Probably the first time Trump has ever said "You go first, I insist." in his entire life.
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yucandu lemmy.world yucandu@lemmy.world
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They absolutely do

Yeah but it's going away. There's an entire generation of people who grew up seeing terms like racism and sexism and anti-semitism being used to deflect against legitimate arguments.

Like you can't get 12 people to sit in a jury when the cops have beat up on the whole town, right?

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NorskSud piefed.social NorskSud@piefed.social
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Where did that number come from? That’s a propaganda narrative and a made up number. The United States and Israel are rogue fascist regimes ignoring international law at this point. Our media has been actively and publicly consolidated into pro Israel hands like Larry Ellison’s recent acquisition of tic toc and abc. I don’t believe it and I don’t believe we are doing this for liberation. We hav...

I'm going to a demonstration here in Brussels next Sunday, organized by Iranian exiles, I'll show them your input.

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nonius lemmy.zip nonius@lemmy.zip
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One of my biggest problems with the past 8-9 years is the amount of blame Trump gets compared to his army of cronies making all of the policy decisions. He is a demonstrably terrible person, but he's clearly not the brains behind these policies

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Bloomcole lemmy.world Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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There are literally dozens of Iranians asking for it on European streets. Demonstrations every week, often very explicitly asking for that.

they are traitor rats, fans of the US/UK installed shah regime.
Or shitraelis
they should get bombed, not Iran

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Bloomcole lemmy.world Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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When a regime kills 30.000 protestors in a few days don't be surprised that their exiled family members ask the regime to be bombed. I fully understand them.

lies, you're probably a hasbara tool

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Bloomcole lemmy.world Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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Not necessarily. It could also be the MEK.

known terrorists, even the US had them on their list

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Bloomcole lemmy.world Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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I'm going to a demonstration here in Brussels next Sunday, organized by Iranian exiles, I'll show them your input.

I'll spit on them if I see them

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aeration1217 lemmy.org aeration1217@lemmy.org
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scrote pelican is harkonnen

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
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I'm going to a demonstration here in Brussels next Sunday, organized by Iranian exiles, I'll show them your input.

Please talk to multiple people and see what they think about the regime change document and how the sanctions have affected their people. Thanks I’m actually interested in the response. One of my professors is Iranian I’m interested in his opinion too

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phutatorius lemmy.zip phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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When a regime kills 30.000 protestors in a few days don't be surprised that their exiled family members ask the regime to be bombed. I fully understand them.

The pro-democracy movement has made it very clear that they want no US involvement. It'll get civilians killed and will make it harder to dislodge the mullahtocracy.

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incompetent programming.dev incompetent@programming.dev
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Or any of the other isms for that matter I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me." Good point there. After all, he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off people.”

"The question isn't 'what are we going to do,' the question is 'what aren't we going to do?'"

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