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Trump Reportedly Mulling Plan to Declare ‘National Emergency’ Paving Way for Major Power Grab
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Tony Bark pawb.social tonytins@pawb.social
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The Washington Post reported that activists are working with the White House on an executive order to declare a “national emergency” over America’s elections and pave the way for a power grab.

“Pro-Trump activists who say they are in coordination with the White House are circulating a 17-page draft executive order that claims China interfered in the 2020 election as a basis to declare a national emergency that would unlock extraordinary presidential power over voting,” reported the Post‘s Isaac Arnsdorf. “President Donald Trump has repeatedly previewed a plan to mandate voter ID and ban mail ballots in November’s midterm elections, and the activists expect their draft will figure into Trump’s promised executive order on the issue.”

Peter Ticktin, a MAGA activist in favor of the executive order, told the Post that “we have a situation where the president is aware that there are foreign interests that are interfering in our election processes,” and that “the president has to be able to deal with it,” including by banning mail-in ballots and certain voting machines.

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RoidingOldMan lemmy.world RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world
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He's already declared like 30 emergencies.

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m-p{3} lemmy.ca mp3@lemmy.ca
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He's already declared like 30 emergencies.

Those are just called sharts.

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cecilkorik piefed.ca cecilkorik@piefed.ca
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Man he's really got this civil war speedrun record locked in.

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StinkyFingerItchyBum lemmy.ca Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca
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Night of the long knives in 3...2..

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Big Baby Thor sopuli.xyz thorhop@sopuli.xyz
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Man he's really got this civil war speedrun record locked in.

Speed run it all the way to the guillotines plz

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ceenote lemmy.world ceenote@lemmy.world
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Someone please lock Dem leadership in a closet somewhere so people who care can deal with this.

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Hapankaali lemmy.world Hapankaali@lemmy.world
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Man he's really got this civil war speedrun record locked in.

Without the war, and the civility.

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Tony Bark pawb.social tonytins@pawb.social
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He's already declared like 30 emergencies.

He's the boy who cried wolf of presidents.

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Zaktor sopuli.xyz Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
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#10 · Quote Reply

Another article acting like the executive has any power over elections. They portray this as a warning, but all they're doing is normalizing the idea.

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zwerg feddit.org zwerg@feddit.org
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Night of the long knives in 3...2..

This would be where they burn down the Reichstag congress.

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frustrated_phagocytosis fedia.io frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io
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Are we in the greatest American period ever, as claimed during his long-ass speech to the union, or are we in a national emergency? It can't be both.

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themeatbridge lemmy.world themeatbridge@lemmy.world
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Ironically, if he is successful, it would be a national emergency.

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in_my_honest_opinion piefed.social in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social
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Without the war, and the civility.

Without the war

says you

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JailElonMusk sopuli.xyz JailElonMusk@sopuli.xyz
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When he steals our democracy and outlaws all other political parties...I bet Schumer, Jeffries, Collins, and the useless lot will all be seriously concerned.

They're probably all sitting cross legged getting their strongly worded letter constructed.

... Is it too late to become Canadian?

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AbidanYre lemmy.world AbidanYre@lemmy.world
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This would be where they burn down the Reichstag congress.

Can we please just skip to the part where he eats a bullet in a bunker?

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ThePantser sh.itjust.works ThePantser@sh.itjust.works
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#17 · Quote Reply

Kill him now!

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robocall lemmy.world robocall@lemmy.world
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#18 · Quote Reply

Trump is so old. He looks like he's going to die any day now. And MAGA doesn't worship his administration team. Only him.

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Sciaphobia sh.itjust.works Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works
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Another article acting like the executive has any power over elections. They portray this as a warning, but all they're doing is normalizing the idea.

The billionaire owned media is normalizing this on purpose.

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Archangel1313 lemmy.ca Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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Doesn't there actually have to be a "National Emergency" before he can just "declare" one? I seem to remember the South Korean president tried something similar there. Wouldn't it be great if the consequences were the same?

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atzanteol sh.itjust.works atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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Doesn't there actually have to be a "National Emergency" before he can just "declare" one? I seem to remember the South Korean president tried something similar there. Wouldn't it be great if the consequences were the same?

Doesn't there actually have to be a "National Emergency" before he can just "declare" one?

Yes, but here's the problem. Both the courts and Congress in their truly finite and limited wisdom have decided that only the president can determine what is an emergency.

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Tony Bark pawb.social tonytins@pawb.social
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Trump is so old. He looks like he's going to die any day now. And MAGA doesn't worship his administration team. Only him.

And MAGA doesn’t worship his administration team. Only him.

Yup. MAGA doesn't have something similar to North Korea's Juche to save them because all Trump thinks about is himself.

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killea lemmy.world killea@lemmy.world
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#23 · Quote Reply

Another article acting like the executive has any power over elections. They portray this as a warning, but all they're doing is normalizing the idea.

That's a good point; think of all the other things they're normalizing this way as well.

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PapstJL4U lemmy.world PapstJL4U@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
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As an outsider I can only hope that

a) Trump would never do something that benefits others

and

b) That Trump is that unpopular, that he would lose a third term

and

c) Americans become a more french when being unhappy with the ruling party

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Zephorah discuss.online Zephorah@discuss.online
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The billionaire owned media is normalizing this on purpose.

Well yes. That’s the idea. They’re special and deserve more than one vote. Democracy is foul, to them. One vote per person undermines what they believe regarding themselves.

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Zephorah discuss.online Zephorah@discuss.online
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#26 · (edited) Quote Reply

Doesn't there actually have to be a "National Emergency" before he can just "declare" one? I seem to remember the South Korean president tried something similar there. Wouldn't it be great if the consequences were the same?

For there to be consequences we would have to have a legislature not working for billionaires.

All of this comes down to billionaires buying their way out of having just one vote.

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Zephorah discuss.online Zephorah@discuss.online
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Trump is so old. He looks like he's going to die any day now. And MAGA doesn't worship his administration team. Only him.

The idea that this ends with Trumps death is no different than leaning on the hope that someone else who isn’t you is going to stop any of this.

Yes, he looks terrible. Yes, it’s entirely possible we wake up tomorrow to news that he died in bed.

But consider what happens next. Peter Theil assumes the presidency through Vance. And Theil hates democracy.

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Voroxpete sh.itjust.works Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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Another article acting like the executive has any power over elections. They portray this as a warning, but all they're doing is normalizing the idea.

This is absolutely the most important thing to keep in mind here.

Remember, this is a memo being circulated by Trump supporters. It's actual legal basis likely sits somewhere around "political fan-fiction."

The same thing happened in 2020. Trump supporters invented completely nonsensical legal justifications for how Trump could sieze power. None of them held water.

Can Trump just ignore the law and declare shit anyway? Sure. Self-coup is always an option in any democracy. But he is deeply unpopular; I don't really see that working out for him, although the process of it not working out certainly might be a very violent one.

Trump tried to self-coup in 2020, and the result absolutely fizzled. It was violent, and messy, and innocent people died, but in the grand scheme of attempted insurrections it was pretty fucking pathetic. He's got a cult of personality, but he's never actually done the work to build the kind of organized support he'd need for something like that.

I'm never going to tell Americans that the danger is over and everything is fine. There has probably never been a more dangerous time for American democracy. But don't mistake that danger for inevitability. While Trump is carving a path of destruction through your government, norms and institutions, he's also bleeding power every single day. You can win this.

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JasonDJ lemmy.zip JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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#29 · (edited) Quote Reply

As an outsider I can only hope that a) Trump would never do something that benefits others and b) That Trump is that unpopular, that he would lose a third term and c) Americans become a more french when being unhappy with the ruling party

Never underestimate the DNCs ability to run a candidate that the moderates couldn't even hold their nose for.

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kryptonianCodeMonkey lemmy.world kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-13
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Even if it were true that China stole the election, how is "something happened 6 years ago" an emergency? He won in 2024, so it can't be that effective anymore.

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peopleproblems lemmy.world peopleproblems@lemmy.world
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#31 · (edited) Quote Reply

Can we please just skip to the part where he eats a bullet in a bunker?

That only happened when it was clear to him that he wasn't going to win.

I sort of wonder if Trump has that foresight.

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peopleproblems lemmy.world peopleproblems@lemmy.world
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#32 · Quote Reply

And none of that actually gives him any power to do anything like that.

He is not the States.

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ZoopZeZoop lemmy.world ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world
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#33 · Quote Reply

Speed run it all the way to the guillotines plz

No clipping and straight to the end, please.

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chaogomu lemmy.world chaogomu@lemmy.world
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Speed run it all the way to the guillotines plz

The French didn't exactly speed run it themselves.

I'm currently listening to old episodes of the Revolutions podcast, and am midway through the French and it bares no resemblance to what's going on now. Which, when it gets to the reign of terror, might be a good thing... But that's the one part of it that I could see happening again.

A lot of the terror was fueled by a murderous little shit with a bootleg newspaper. There's a reason why lible and slander laws are so powerful in that part of Europe.

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CharlesDarwin lemmy.world CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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Even if it were true that China stole the election, how is "something happened 6 years ago" an emergency? He won in 2024, so it can't be that effective anymore.

He will just never get over the fact that he lost in 2020. And he's willing to make all of America suffer for his butthurt.

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watson sopuli.xyz watson387@sopuli.xyz
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Another article acting like the executive has any power over elections. They portray this as a warning, but all they're doing is normalizing the idea.

This is exactly the Project 2025 playbook. Doing things by the law takes time. In that time, they do as they please.

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darkdemize sh.itjust.works darkdemize@sh.itjust.works
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#37 · Quote Reply

Never underestimate the DNCs ability to run a candidate that the moderates couldn't even hold their nose for.

I've always preferred "Never underestimate the DNC's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory."

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Wataba sh.itjust.works Wataba@sh.itjust.works
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#38 · Quote Reply

Someone please lock Dem leadership in a closet somewhere so people who care can deal with this.

Where are these people who can deal with it?

Please, show some evidence that they actually exist. I don't need names and addresses, thats just opening them up as targets.

Do they exist? Because all I've seen is a lot of bitching and whining and declaring that no-one is good enough to do that.

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anon_8675309 lemmy.world anon_8675309@lemmy.world
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#39 · Quote Reply

He’ll be aged out by midterms.

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GalacticSushi piefed.blahaj.zone GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#40 · Quote Reply

Probably should've done it before shit talking the supreme court. I have little faith in them to act in a timely manner, but who knows?

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Ulvain sh.itjust.works Ulvain@sh.itjust.works
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#41 · Quote Reply

Oh I'm shocked, shocked i tell you.

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UsernameHere lemmy.world UsernameHere@lemmy.world
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#42 · Quote Reply

Someone please lock Dem leadership in a closet somewhere so people who care can deal with this.

Both sides are the same so we should just not vote and let Trump win.

-Leftists

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Phoenixz lemmy.ca phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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#43 · Quote Reply

He'll probably be dead by the mid terms, as "healthy" as he currently is. Why even bother?

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Catma lemmy.world Catma@lemmy.world
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#44 · Quote Reply

Even if it were true that China stole the election, how is "something happened 6 years ago" an emergency? He won in 2024, so it can't be that effective anymore.

It hurt hurt his feelings bigly. And if anyone, anywhere has ever hurt Donny's feelings then it is a national emergency.

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Typhoon lemmy.ca Typhoon@lemmy.ca
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Even if it were true that China stole the election, how is "something happened 6 years ago" an emergency? He won in 2024, so it can't be that effective anymore.

It's an emergency because if he leaves it alone Republicans are going to tank hard in the midterms which will mean he loses power and might even be held accountable for his crimes.

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
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#46 · Quote Reply

Help

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CainTheLongshot lemmy.world CainTheLongshot@lemmy.world
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#47 · Quote Reply

That only happened when it was clear to him that he wasn't going to win. I sort of wonder if Trump has that foresight.

It could be argued that even Hitler lacked the foresight until that last hour when it was discovered his armies were not coming to his rescue.

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FenrirIII lemmy.world FenrirIII@lemmy.world
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#48 · Quote Reply

He's already declared like 30 emergencies.

Because "emergencies" are the Wild cards given to the Executive Branch by Congress and SCOTUS. There's no clear definition and no boundaries until he's challenged in court or Congress overrules him.

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AA5B lemmy.world AA5B@lemmy.world
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#49 · Quote Reply

Because "emergencies" are the Wild cards given to the Executive Branch by Congress and SCOTUS. There's no clear definition and no boundaries until he's challenged in court or Congress overrules him.

And if he waits six months before declaring an emergency, there would not be time for the court to annul it

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tomiant piefed.social tomiant@piefed.social
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#50 · Quote Reply

Uhh, I think this was the obvious plan since before the election...?

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switcheroo lemmy.world switcheroo@lemmy.world
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Good fucking God I can't wait to wake up one day and have the best news delivered to me. Multiple news sources letting me know all fucking day about this great news. It'll be a great great day.

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