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ch00f
lemmy.world
ch00f@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-10 |
Woke up today to the homeserver being unresponsive. Couldn't SSH, no video out when I connected a monitor, and even the reset button didn't do anything. Had to hold the power button to shut it down. /var/log/syslog doesn't show anything interesting other than the issue happened at just after 4am. Log
Would something like this be a direct hardware failure? Like a power supply hiccup or something? It happening at 4am coincides with my electric car starting to charge, but the server is on a dedicated 20A circuit and behind a battery backup. I also don't see any power issues on my Sense monitor at that time though it has limited resolution. Mainboard is a Supermicro H13SAE-MF and I'm using ECC RAM. I've been running this hardware for over a year and never had this issue, but I'm running out of places to look. Might be time to finally get IPMI working. |
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CameronDev
programming.dev
CameronDev@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-18 |
Reset button not working, but power button working is quite odd. Is it just the once that this happened? Can you reliably trigger it with the car charger? If yes, maybe worth plugging in a monitor while you triggering it and see what happens. Are the server and chargers close to each other? Some kind of EMP effect? Seems unlikely, but who knows. |
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poVoq
slrpnk.net
poVoq@slrpnk.netJoined: 2022-09-19 |
Ghost in the machine 🤷 Impossible to tell and it sometimes happens. |
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zewm
lemmy.world
zewm@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-02 |
Memory leak eating all your ram them locking up? Is it a one time thing or is it a regular occurrence? |
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ch00f
lemmy.world
ch00f@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-10 |
Reset button not working, but power button working is quite odd. Is it just the once that this happened? Can you reliably trigger it with the car charger? If yes, maybe worth plugging in a monitor while you triggering it and see what happens. Are the server and chargers close to each other? Some kind of EMP effect? Seems unlikely, but who knows.
Yeah makes me think something hardware level.
No. The car charges every night. This is the first time this has happened. |
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ch00f
lemmy.world
ch00f@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-10 |
Memory leak eating all your ram them locking up? Is it a one time thing or is it a regular occurrence?
I think it's the first time it's happened since I upgraded my hardware over a year ago. 64 gigs of RAM and I rarely use more than 30% of it. |
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9tr6gyp3
lemmy.world
9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
Solar flares and even the occasional random neutron particle hitting your equipment can cause some weird issues. If its just a one time occurrence and it doesn't happen again, I wouldn't worry too much about it. |
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empireOfLove2
lemmy.dbzer0.com
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-12-22 |
The reset button is basically just a signal to the CPU/BIOS that it should wipe memory and begin the boot process from scratch. If it was not working, that indicates the CPU was hard locked and not responding to any sort of input, not just an os fault The power button sends an actual trigger signal to the PSU through the ATX connector so it bypasses any mainboard lock. Random shit happens, see if it does it again. |
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Björn
swg-empire.de
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deJoined: 2023-07-08 |
I think it's the first time it's happened since I upgraded my hardware over a year ago. 64 gigs of RAM and I rarely use more than 30% of it.
I still use swap for those rare moments i run out of RAM after all. Who knows maybe some heavy cronjobs will clash or whatever. |
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tal
lemmy.today
tal@lemmy.todayJoined: 2023-10-04 |
If it happens again and you have Magic Sysrq enabled, you can do Magic Sysrq-t, which may give you some idea of what the system is doing, since you'll get stack traces. As long as the kernel can talk to the keyboard, it should be able to get that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_sysrq You maybe can't see anything on your monitor, but if the system is working enough to generate the stack traces and log them to the syslog on disk (like, your kernel filesystem and disk systems are still functional), you'll be able to view them on reboot. If it can't even do that, you might be able to set up a serial console and then, using another system running Some systems have hardware watchdogs, where if a process can't constantly ping the thing, the system will reboot. That doesn't solve your problem, but it may mitigate it if you just want it to reboot if things wedge up. The |
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lemmlinger
feddit.org
lemmlinger@feddit.org Joined: 2025-03-04 |
Most likely memory issues |
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Wildmimic
anarchist.nexus
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusJoined: 2025-09-05 |
Solar flares and even the occasional random neutron particle hitting your equipment can cause some weird issues. If its just a one time occurrence and it doesn't happen again, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Wanted to say that - Random shit does happen, even to the most stable systems. There's a cutoff in consumer hardware where selecting for more stability simply isn't worth the cost such as radiation hardening. Best you can do is ECC Ram. |
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k2r
lemmy.world
k2r@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-08-26 |
Full disk maybe? |
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Joined: 2026-02-19 |
For homeservers if you're not always on-site to look at it, it's a good idea to set a reset on kernel panic. More ideal not to reboot of course, but I am often hundreds of miles from my servers so a kernel panic over something that wouldn't have otherwise killed the system is something I'd rather live with and reboot. |
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ch00f
lemmy.world
ch00f@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-10 |
Most likely memory issues
In ECC memory? |
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amorangi
lemmy.nz
amorangi@lemmy.nz Joined: 2023-06-09 |
Most likely memory issues
I've resolved issues like this to RAM maybe twice, vs maybe 8 or 10 times being a faulty PSU. It's also a pita to pin it down. |
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Treczoks
lemmy.world
Treczoks@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
If it randomly locks up, try memtest86. It can often be found as a boot alternative in Linux installation images, but it is probably available solo. |
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EarMaster
lemmy.world
EarMaster@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-09 |
I think it's the first time it's happened since I upgraded my hardware over a year ago. 64 gigs of RAM and I rarely use more than 30% of it.
That's the beauty of a memory leak. Even plenty of RAM can get filled up to the brim… |
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motruck
lemmy.zip
motruck@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-08-23 |
Look at dmesg? Look at the last two boots:
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SwissOS
sh.itjust.works
SwissOS@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-19 |
For homeservers if you're not always on-site to look at it, it's a good idea to set a reset on kernel panic. More ideal not to reboot of course, but I am often hundreds of miles from my servers so a kernel panic over something that wouldn't have otherwise killed the system is something I'd rather live with and reboot.
How do you do that? (Reset on kernel panic) |
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SharkAttak
kbin.melroy.org
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.orgJoined: 2024-09-23 |
Wanted to say that - Random shit does happen, even to the most stable systems. There's a cutoff in consumer hardware where selecting for more stability simply isn't worth the cost such as radiation hardening. Best you can do is ECC Ram.
So you're saying there's a market for lead lined PC cases? 🤔 |
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essell
lemmy.world
essell@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-28 |
Had this problem for a the last three months. Tested hard drives, memory and everything else. Turned out to be a PSU with an intermittent issue where it would drop voltage. Very annoying! |
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Wildmimic
anarchist.nexus
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusJoined: 2025-09-05 |
So you're saying there's a market for lead lined PC cases? 🤔
That might introduce more issues than help. If high speed particles impact your shielding, you might get a "particle shower" from the impact on your electronics. Radiation Hardening is part of the design of the chips - mainly creating less dense structures with bigger transistors, because they don't flip as easily as the very small gates on a H200. That's also the reason why most space based computers have the processing power of a system around 2005. |
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Joined: 2026-02-19 |
How do you do that? (Reset on kernel panic)
In sysctl.conf you can put kernel.panic=1 Where 1 is the seconds until reboot. |
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