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Klanky
sopuli.xyz
Klanky@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2023-06-11 |
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zod000
lemmy.dbzer0.com
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-08-12 |
That really sucks. Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion are some of my favorite sci-fi books. |
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a4ng3l
lemmy.world
a4ng3l@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-02 |
Damn. That was one twisted man. He’ll be missed. |
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Olap
lemmy.world
Olap@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-02 |
Well, I know what's going in my reading pile next then |
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BallShapedMan
lemmy.world
BallShapedMan@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-06 |
Well shit. I wish the best for his loved ones. 77 is too young for sure. |
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Jhex
lemmy.world
Jhex@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-01-28 |
Hyperion is awesome... read all 4 and "told" them to my kids who loved them so much they read them as well (my "kids" are big, but I don't know what else to call them hahaha) Rest in peace Simmons... may you Freecast in joy for all eternity |
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DagwoodIII
piefed.social
DagwoodIII@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-17 |
https://bookshop.org/beta-search?keywords=dan+simmons He did a lot of other books. "Drood" is a wild tale told by an opium addict, pretty much the ultimate unreliable narrator. "The Crook Factory" has Ernest Hemingway chasing Nazi submarines lurking near Cuba. |
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Lighttrails
sh.itjust.works
Lighttrails@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-11-07 |
I finished the Fall of Hyperion last week. He was a fantastic writer. May he be remembered and honored the same way as Colonel Kassad |
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gravitas_deficiency
sh.itjust.works
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-20 |
Noooooooo he was such a good author :( |
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tedd_deireadh
piefed.social
tedd_deireadh@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-10 |
The Terror is my favorite book! I picked it up based on the cover art and texture and it turned out to be a fantastic horror novel. I love how he integrated it with actual historical events. RIP. |
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KneeTitts
lemmy.world
KneeTitts@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-20 |
I always hoped to see a Hyperion movie, now without his guidance it'll come out and suck. |
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Nightwatch Admin
feddit.nl
nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl Joined: 2023-06-07 |
I loved especially Hyperion, but I said my final goodbye the day I opened Flashback… what an awful piece of rear end production that was. The Hyperion series was awesome, original, well-thought out, spiced with a background of Enoch the Prophet, flying space trees … and I’ll cherish it forever. Flashback not so much, what a hateful piece of right wing trash that was. And I’m not necessarily against a solid story that makes me think or even just learn to appreciate other’s viewpoints, but this was more like something Ben Shapiro would write. “leftie bad hur durr”, you probably know what I mean. On top of that, it was shattered, incoherent and relied insanely on Deus Ex Machina constructions throughout. I never understood and I never ever will I. Sad. |
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Evil_Shrubbery
thelemmy.club
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club Joined: 2025-08-15 |
https://bookshop.org/beta-search?keywords=dan+simmons He did a lot of other books. "Drood" is a wild tale told by an opium addict, pretty much the ultimate unreliable narrator. "The Crook Factory" has Ernest Hemingway chasing Nazi submarines lurking near Cuba.
Drood was so ... long to read (I mean weird pacing) and I couldn't decide if it was intentional or not. Also not giving us more of the tusk lady etc was criminal (but I knew that fairly from the start that I'm getting snubbed in my ghostly lore needs). |
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DarkFuture
lemmy.world
DarkFuture@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-11-06 |
I finished the Fall of Hyperion last week. He was a fantastic writer. May he be remembered and honored the same way as Colonel Kassad
Colonel Kassad was the best. |
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humanamerican
lemmy.zip
humanamerican@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-08-04 |
Man I stroke once or twice a day. Didn't know it could be fatal! |
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Redstone1
lemmings.world
Redstone1@lemmings.world Joined: 2025-11-18 |
WHAT THE FUCK NOOO! |
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DagwoodIII
piefed.social
DagwoodIII@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-17 |
Drood was so ... long to read (I mean weird pacing) and I couldn't decide if it was intentional or not. Also not giving us more of the tusk lady etc was criminal (but I knew that fairly from the start that I'm getting snubbed in my ghostly lore needs).
Drood isn't for everyone, but I enjoyed the craziness. 'Black Hills' is also pretty good. Native man gets a job working on the Mount Rushmore project. It's a desecration but he needs the work. |
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Evil_Shrubbery
thelemmy.club
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club Joined: 2025-08-15 |
This dude really did write multiple genres pretty well, even mashed together. Absolutely fantastic world-building in Hyperion Cantos. I also enjoyed Terror, the world descriptions are just situationally (like in a 3D space) pleasing for me, adjusted historical & mythological facts work really well, and even the story was rounded into a satisfactory end. Rip. |
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Evil_Shrubbery
thelemmy.club
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club Joined: 2025-08-15 |
Drood isn't for everyone, but I enjoyed the craziness. 'Black Hills' is also pretty good. Native man gets a job working on the Mount Rushmore project. It's a desecration but he needs the work.
Oh, I kinda enjoyed Drood (like a snack I'm already fed up with yet keep munching), but in comparison some passages felt fatiguing, style a bit different, topics a bit mondaine (again, might have been intentional to show opium changes, idk). Didn't read Black Hills, almost don't want to, but prob will at some point (thx for reminding me). |
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Know_not_Scotty_does
lemmy.world
Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-07 |
That really sucks. Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion are some of my favorite sci-fi books.
The next two books in the series got weirder because of the character's ages... That part doesn't hold up. |
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janewaydidnothingwrong
lemmy.world
janewaydidnothingwrong@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-30 |
Nooooooooo! That is horrible news 😢 |
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50MYT
lemmy.world
50MYT@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-26 |
https://bookshop.org/beta-search?keywords=dan+simmons He did a lot of other books. "Drood" is a wild tale told by an opium addict, pretty much the ultimate unreliable narrator. "The Crook Factory" has Ernest Hemingway chasing Nazi submarines lurking near Cuba.
Illium / Olympus is also epic. |
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RunJun
lemmy.dbzer0.com
RunJun@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-03-09 |
The next two books in the series got weirder because of the character's ages... That part doesn't hold up.
Well shit, I was going to circle back around to them in not too long. |
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Viking_Hippie
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-04 |
Man I stroke once or twice a day. Didn't know it could be fatal!
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ObtuseDoorFrame
lemmy.zip
ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-26 |
Most of the comments on social media about his passing are about his horrible politics rather than his writing. People are calling him a racist, a misogynist, and even a fascist. Song of Kali confused me. It felt so hateful and so deeply racist that I assumed I missed something about it, like maybe it was satirical. Or maybe it was just about a character who hated India, which doesn't necessarily mean the author shares those views. I loved Hyperion even with its misogynistic parts, I just sort of figured "boomers are gonna boom" and I was able to overlook it. Summer of Night was phenomenal, even if it did have the same "only one female character and she's a lot" problem that all his novels seem to have. I don't see myself reading his other novels after reading about how racist he was. Quite a shame. |
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SpiceDealer
lemmy.dbzer0.com
SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2025-03-08 |
Without Dan Simmons and Hyperion, sci-fi literature would've been still been regarded as disposable paperbacks. Simmons did away with the trappings of early pulp sci-fi that held a shadow over the genre for many decades. Instead, Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion took the shape of the Western Canon and could be discussed as serious literature. Without spoiling too much, I remember reading the story of Sol Weintraub and his daughter and almost being brought to tears; something that no other book, regardless of genre, has done. Rest well, scribe. Asimov, Heinland, Clarke, Herbert and, of course, Keats. You'll be in good company |
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Zirconium
lemmy.world
Zirconium@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-02 |
Without Dan Simmons and Hyperion, sci-fi literature would've been still been regarded as disposable paperbacks. Simmons did away with the trappings of early pulp sci-fi that held a shadow over the genre for many decades. Instead, Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion took the shape of the Western Canon and could be discussed as serious literature. Without spoiling too much, I remember reading the story...
I don't even have children and Sol Weintraub made me want to cry so hard |
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orbituary
lemmy.dbzer0.com
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-14 |
Love that the author of the article jabbed Rothfus and Martin directly. Hyperion is my favorite sci-fi next to Dune. It's inspired a lot of the features in my D&D homebrew world, including the Shrike, the river, a few deities, and other textures and layers to my realm. Farewell, |
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orbituary
lemmy.dbzer0.com
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-14 |
I always hoped to see a Hyperion movie, now without his guidance it'll come out and suck.
SyFy (not its predecessor) had rights to it, but it never came to light. The Shrike is so hard to depict. Perhaps HBO or another with deep coffers could make it happen. |
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orbituary
lemmy.dbzer0.com
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-14 |
Well shit. I wish the best for his loved ones. 77 is too young for sure.
Is it? 77 feels just right to me for the end. Not too old to be decrepit, not young enough to regret it. |
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falidorn
lemmy.world
falidorn@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-21 |
What a crazy coincidence that my newly formed book club chose this as our inaugural choice and then, literally just yesterday, finished Fall of Hyperion. I appreciate you Dan Simmons. I’m sorry people no longer get to experience your imagination. |
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BallShapedMan
lemmy.world
BallShapedMan@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-06 |
Is it? 77 feels just right to me for the end. Not too old to be decrepit, not young enough to regret it.
Depends on how good ones health and savings are I guess |
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SpaceCowboy
lemmy.ca
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-06-17 |
What a crazy coincidence that my newly formed book club chose this as our inaugural choice and then, literally just yesterday, finished Fall of Hyperion. I appreciate you Dan Simmons. I’m sorry people no longer get to experience your imagination.
I'm actually reading the first book right now... So I first saw the image which is the cover of the book I'm reading and thought "heyyyy!" then read the headline... oof. |
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Dearth
lemmy.world
Dearth@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-30 |
Love that the author of the article jabbed Rothfus and Martin directly. Hyperion is my favorite sci-fi next to Dune. It's inspired a lot of the features in my D&D homebrew world, including the Shrike, the river, a few deities, and other textures and layers to my realm. Farewell, friend. You were one of the good ones. I wish you hadn't gone the wrong direction.
He was a good author but was completely brainwashed after 9/11 |
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YiddishMcSquidish
lemmy.today
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-03-10 |
:( |
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Abundance114
lemmy.world
Abundance114@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-23 |
Most of the comments on social media about his passing are about his horrible politics rather than his writing. People are calling him a racist, a misogynist, and even a fascist. Song of Kali confused me. It felt so hateful and so deeply racist that I assumed I missed something about it, like maybe it was satirical. Or maybe it was just about a character who hated India, which doesn't necessari...
Isn't it strange that you can write a book about destroying an entire planet full of people and no one bats an eye; but if you include a political hot topic suddenly half of the population is protesting your book. I would understand if he's actively promoting an idea but I don't think most books do that... |
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Zaktor
sopuli.xyz
Zaktor@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-08-22 |
SyFy (not its predecessor) had rights to it, but it never came to light. The Shrike is so hard to depict. Perhaps HBO or another with deep coffers could make it happen.
IMO the Shrike is kind of unimportant to most of the storytelling. You could almost just narrate it and show shadows of a distant figure. It's the stalking threat that gives mystery and weight to the decisions of the characters to make the pilgrimage. I always found the physical description of the Shrike to be one of the silliest aspects of the story. |
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orbituary
lemmy.dbzer0.com
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-14 |
IMO the Shrike is kind of unimportant to most of the storytelling. You could almost just narrate it and show shadows of a distant figure. It's the stalking threat that gives mystery and weight to the decisions of the characters to make the pilgrimage. I always found the physical description of the Shrike to be one of the silliest aspects of the story.
Without the Shrike, the story would not hold as much weight, even though he is not the essence of the problem, only a reflection or manifestation of it. The Shrike, to me, was a feedback loop. |
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Sergio
piefed.social
Sergio@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-01 |
I loved especially Hyperion, but I said my final goodbye the day I opened Flashback… what an awful piece of rear end production that was. The Hyperion series was awesome, original, well-thought out, spiced with a background of Enoch the Prophet, flying space trees … and I’ll cherish it forever. Flashback not so much, what a hateful piece of right wing trash that was. And I’m not necessarily aga...
Oh, I understand it. Simmons was too eager to tell us why he didn't like "certain people." |
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Sergio
piefed.social
Sergio@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-01 |
Without Dan Simmons and Hyperion, sci-fi literature would've been still been regarded as disposable paperbacks. Simmons did away with the trappings of early pulp sci-fi that held a shadow over the genre for many decades. Instead, Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion took the shape of the Western Canon and could be discussed as serious literature. Without spoiling too much, I remember reading the story...
Hyperion was pretty good, but the 70s New Wave of science fiction had already done that: Ursula K. Le Guin, J. G. Ballard, Samuel Delany, etc. They deserve their credit. |
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deltatangothree
lemmy.world
deltatangothree@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
Without Dan Simmons and Hyperion, sci-fi literature would've been still been regarded as disposable paperbacks. Simmons did away with the trappings of early pulp sci-fi that held a shadow over the genre for many decades. Instead, Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion took the shape of the Western Canon and could be discussed as serious literature. Without spoiling too much, I remember reading the story...
Sol's story is incredible, but the priest's tale is the single best horror fiction ever written imo. |
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wolfrasin
lemmy.today
wolfrasin@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-17 |
Barf. On my 2nd reading of Hyperion books as an adult this time and I really didn't pick up on the pedophehelia and grooming shit with Raul & Aenea the first time. Super gross and ruines it for me |
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tigeruppercut
lemmy.zip
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-08-20 |
Without Dan Simmons and Hyperion, sci-fi literature would’ve been still been regarded as disposable paperbacks. Simmons did away with the trappings of early pulp sci-fi that held a shadow over the genre for many decades. Instead, Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion took the shape of the Western Canon and could be discussed as serious literature. Hyperion was pretty good, but the 70s New Wave of scien...
Hadn't Bradbury already been doing a lot of that like 2 decades before? I guess it mentions him as a predecessor in that article, but if the movement is distinguished by "an emphasis on the psychological and social sciences as opposed to the physical sciences", that sounds like Bradbury to a T. |
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Nightwatch Admin
feddit.nl
nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl Joined: 2023-06-07 |
I never understood and I never ever will I. Oh, I understand it. Simmons was too eager to tell us why he didn't like "certain people."
Oh definitely. I just never understood how this could be the same author. |
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Sergio
piefed.social
Sergio@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-01 |
Oh definitely. I just never understood how this could be the same author.
https://web.archive.org/web/20110806051551/http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message.htm |
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iegod
lemmy.zip
ieGod@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-04 |
Without Dan Simmons and Hyperion, sci-fi literature would've been still been regarded as disposable paperbacks. Simmons did away with the trappings of early pulp sci-fi that held a shadow over the genre for many decades. Instead, Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion took the shape of the Western Canon and could be discussed as serious literature. Without spoiling too much, I remember reading the story...
See you later, alligator. 😭 |
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