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Salamence
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Fredselfish
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Fredselfish@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-02 |
So it begins, he is moving tad to the right to apease the right. Goddammit we can't have true 100% progressive in office. Pisses me off. |
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oneser
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oneser@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-28 |
So it begins, he is moving tad to the right to apease the right. Goddammit we can't have true 100% progressive in office. Pisses me off.
I think most people would agree that removing NYPD tomorrow would not turn New York into a paradise by Wednesday. Removing or not being willing to work with the police is not a popular opinion and will not win elections. There is no argument that can change the current public opinion on this. Progressives will never reach office because progressives can't decide what is progressive enough and will spite vote for some other shithead based on a single point of disagreement. |
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PhilipTheBucket
piefed.social
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-10 |
I think most people would agree that removing NYPD tomorrow would not turn New York into a paradise by Wednesday. Removing or not being willing to work with the police is not a popular opinion and will not win elections. There is no argument that can change the current public opinion on this. Progressives will never reach office because progressives can't decide what is progressive enough and w...
Especially since there are whole gangs of people who make a whole cottage industry out of throwing "officially not left enough!" bombs at whoever is the most left, and encouraging people not to vote for them. It doesn't actually matter whether it's true or not, although you can usually find some kind of misdemeanor if you go back enough years and dig deep enough. Bernie Sanders, apparently, is a Zionist, for example. |
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Gradually_Adjusting
lemmy.world
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
will spite vote for some other shithead based on a single point of disagreement Especially since there are whole gangs of people who make a whole cottage industry out of throwing "officially not left enough!" bombs at whoever is the most left, and encouraging people not to vote for them. It doesn't actually matter whether it's true or not, although you can usually find some kind of misdemeanor ...
The astroturfers making left unity this difficult has always been extremely frustrating to me. It would be a pleasure to deny the right a measure of unity from time to time, in turn. |
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PhilipTheBucket
piefed.social
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-10 |
The astroturfers making left unity this difficult has always been extremely frustrating to me. It would be a pleasure to deny the right a measure of unity from time to time, in turn.
Well, they are shooting each other. They're sort of always lacking unity just because they tend to be individually pretty dangerous and dishonest in a way that makes it hard to have lasting unity on that side either, with recent events as a new example. They have their own brand of disunity dysfunction, as the left has its own. That said, I actually kind of suspect that at least a little bit of their new disunity now isn't accidental. Trump's been pissing off Russia, and I sort of suspect that all the sudden panic about Trump being friends with Epstein is because they're trying to poke back at him. None of the information about that is at all new. You would think that the big freakout would be when someone testified under oath that he raped her as a child, something like that, and not because a big picture-book came out that had his signature on it. But I notice it's all of a sudden an "official thing the news can freak out about" now in a way that for some fuckin' reason it wasn't before. |
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Gradually_Adjusting
lemmy.world
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
Well, they are shooting each other. They're sort of always lacking unity just because they tend to be individually pretty dangerous and dishonest in a way that makes it hard to have lasting unity on that side either, with recent events as a new example. They have their own brand of disunity dysfunction, as the left has its own. That said, I actually kind of suspect that at least a little bit of...
You don't comfort me, but you're right that it feels very manufactured in a lot of ways. |
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Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
lemmy.dbzer0.com
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2024-10-10 |
Oh cool, let's just pretend they aren't and say sorry to the people who shoot and kill black people effectively for fun. |
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primrosepathspeedrun
anarchist.nexus
primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus Joined: 2025-09-17 |
I think most people would agree that removing NYPD tomorrow would not turn New York into a paradise by Wednesday. Removing or not being willing to work with the police is not a popular opinion and will not win elections. There is no argument that can change the current public opinion on this. Progressives will never reach office because progressives can't decide what is progressive enough and w...
I think most sane people would agree that 100% removing the NYPD today would make it in no way worse and many ways better–including the ability to increase social services massively and start some huge infrastructure projects while slashing municipal taxes by like 30%. Most people in cities have had to actually deal with cops, and do not like them. You don't need to suck up to them–especially if your major criticism is 'they're racist'–which totally allows that some people could have positive experiences. |
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primrosepathspeedrun
anarchist.nexus
primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus Joined: 2025-09-17 |
Oh cool, let's just pretend they aren't and say sorry to the people who shoot and kill black people effectively for fun.
How fucking dare you demean the police of this great nation by saying they only kill for fun– sometimes it's a sex thing. You apologize to our well paid sexually motivated serial killers right now, ghost of Mr. Debs. |
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