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Samsung Galaxy update removes Android recovery menu tools, including sideloading
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baatliwala lemmy.world baatliwala@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
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Arghblarg lemmy.ca Arghblarg@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-10
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Bloody hell, the faster plain Linux phones become viable, the better.

If Google does what they plan to do this year, my next phone's not going to be Android or iOS, somehow.

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wasu lemmy.world wasu@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-28
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WTF. In the past I updated my tablet and after that it started to discharge within two days (not a week as it used to). The only way to fix it was to clear cache partition. And now they are removing that option.

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Pherenike lemmy.ml Pherenike@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-01
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We'll find a way around it, as we always have.

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zergtoshi lemmy.world zergtoshi@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-24
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There's real Linux mobile phone OS like https://sailfishos.org/ which I will try as soon as my phone gets delivered.
I'm fed up with Android/Google as it is and GrapheneOS (which I'm running now) can't stop me from wanting to have alternatives.

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artyom piefed.social artyom@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-08
#6 · (edited) Quote Reply

Time for lawsuits. Companies need to learn they can't change the terms after the sale.

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melsaskca lemmy.ca melsaskca@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-09
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At least with old vehicles you could install the same gasoline regardless of which "gasoline company" you shopped at. Everything is tightened up nowadays, and is getting worse, but you can only do that for so long before the bindings break and an explosion occurs.

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Stez sh.itjust.works Stez827@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-17
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At least with old vehicles you could install the same gasoline regardless of which "gasoline company" you shopped at. Everything is tightened up nowadays, and is getting worse, but you can only do that for so long before the bindings break and an explosion occurs.

Yea kinda but look at apple. There has never been any freedom to do what you want with their phones and people have loved them. While you and I as enthusiasts may move to another platform because of stuff like this most people don't even know about it.

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michael_palmer lemmy.sdf.org michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2024-02-12
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There's real Linux mobile phone OS like https://sailfishos.org/ which I will try as soon as my phone gets delivered. I'm fed up with Android/Google as it is and GrapheneOS (which I'm running now) can't stop me from wanting to have alternatives.

Wrong URL. The valid one is https://postmarketos.org/

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zergtoshi lemmy.world zergtoshi@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-24
#10 · (edited) Quote Reply

Wrong URL. The valid one is https://postmarketos.org/

Not really. It's just another attempt at having Linux on mobile phones.
As for a daily driver I have higher hopes for SailfishOS.

From https://postmarketos.org/state/:
"postmarketOS is for Linux enthusiasts. For hackers, tinkerers, technical people [...] When compared to Android or iOS, postmarketOS is run by a tiny community of developers who mostly work on the project in their free time - typically next to a dayjob, school or university. Keep that in mind when asking for help in the issues or chat. This is not a product you paid for and you don't have a support contract with us. People may help you if they have time, but sometimes nobody can help you and you need to figure out problems on your own.".

In contrast the statement about SailfishOS:
"The main design principles of Sailfish OS have always included a seamless user experience combined with unique and clean Scandinavian design.
Apps are a natural part of a mobile UX. With Sailfish OS you can run beautiful gesture-based native apps powered by Qt framework or opt-in to run your favourite Android apps securely executed in an isolated sandbox.".

Whether SailfishOS delivers or postmarketOS is able to provide the better experience, remains to be seen.
For now my money is on SailfishOS - literally!

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michael_palmer lemmy.sdf.org michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2024-02-12
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Not really. It's just another attempt at having Linux on mobile phones. As for a daily driver I have higher hopes for SailfishOS. From https://postmarketos.org/state/: "postmarketOS is for Linux enthusiasts. For hackers, tinkerers, technical people [...] When compared to Android or iOS, postmarketOS is run by a tiny community of developers who mostly work on the project in their free time - typ...

Salfish OS isn't compatiable with generic Linux apps. While pmOS can run any Flatpak or Alpine linux app. Even Microsoft failed to support Windows Phone app s ecosystem.

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zergtoshi lemmy.world zergtoshi@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-24
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Salfish OS isn't compatiable with generic Linux apps. While pmOS can run any Flatpak or Alpine linux app. Even Microsoft failed to support Windows Phone app s ecosystem.

That's a bummer, but being able to run Android apps seamlessly may be even more useful for a mobile phone than being able to run Linux apps.

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wizzor sopuli.xyz wizzor@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-14
#13 · Quote Reply

Ah, OS sideloading,

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