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schizoidman lemmy.zip schizoidman@lemmy.zip
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artyom piefed.social artyom@piefed.social
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That's good news. I hope it's a budget device with a plastic case, SD card, IR emitter, notification LED, and headphone jack.

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gianni lemmy.ca gianni@lemmy.ca
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Holy shit—YES!

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Mwa thelemmy.club Mwa@thelemmy.club
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Is that thumbnail ai generated?
The logos look weird.

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outbloodyrageous mander.xyz outbloodyrageous@mander.xyz
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Damn, that's surprising. Motorola has never been known for a strong update policy, and having a good update schedule is one of the key requirements for GOS. I hope they are addressing this issue.

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guillem aussie.zone guillem@aussie.zone
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Is that thumbnail ai generated? The logos look weird.
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James R Kirk startrek.website Kirk@startrek.website
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#7 · Quote Reply

My jaw is on the floor

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galoisghost aussie.zone galoisghost@aussie.zone
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This is potentially very good news. Image GrapheneOS on a base model Motorola.

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woelkchen lemmy.world woelkchen@lemmy.world
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Is that thumbnail ai generated? The logos look weird.

Looks like shitty photoshop of stock images to me.

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First_Thunder lemmy.zip First_Thunder@lemmy.zip
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#10 · Quote Reply

That's good news. I hope it's a budget device with a plastic case, SD card, IR emitter, notification LED, and headphone jack.

I’d rather have it be a bit more mid to upper range, I want a nice processor and decent cameras

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woelkchen lemmy.world woelkchen@lemmy.world
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#11 · Quote Reply

The thing with open source is that there doesn’t need to be a “partnership”. Motorola/Lenovo can just take the code and make the necessary changes on their own.

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roofuskit lemmy.world roofuskit@lemmy.world
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#12 · Quote Reply

Lenovo*

Motorola does not have a mobile phone business, Google absorbed that ages ago. The brand and only the brand was sold to Lenovo.

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artyom piefed.social artyom@piefed.social
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I’d rather have it be a bit more mid to upper range, I want a nice processor and decent cameras

I don't have any use for a "nice processor". I have a basic one and I don't have any problems with it.

As for cameras, I think it's pretty clear at this point that it's all about the software. The Pixel was winning blind smartphone camera tests with >10 y/o sensors.

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roofuskit lemmy.world roofuskit@lemmy.world
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Is that thumbnail ai generated? The logos look weird.

Definitely, both are close but obviously wrong.

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pasdechance jlai.lu pasdechance@jlai.lu
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#15 · (edited) Quote Reply

This site is a (possibly AI) content mill. The sources are all circular.

It probably isn't Motorola.

Edited, see comment for clarifications...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47053243

GrapheneOS was contacted by one of the largest Android OEMs in June 2025 and we're actively working with them. They're going to be announcing our partnership in March 2026 and the phones meeting our requirements with official GrapheneOS support are scheduled for 2027.

Xiaomi, Huawei, Honor, and Vivo are all larger OEMs than Motorola.

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Ulrich feddit.org Ulrich@feddit.org
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Damn, that's surprising. Motorola has never been known for a strong update policy, and having a good update schedule is one of the key requirements for GOS. I hope they are addressing this issue.

I mean it seems like a no-brainer for OEMs. You can just turn over all your software development to a 3rd party, for free.

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chirospasm lemmy.ml chirospasm@lemmy.ml
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Is that thumbnail ai generated? The logos look weird.

It's possible they are updating the logo in light of the partnership?

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Mwa thelemmy.club Mwa@thelemmy.club
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oh i see.

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Mwa thelemmy.club Mwa@thelemmy.club
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It's possible they are updating the logo in light of the partnership?

nope, i checked Wikipedia

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artyom piefed.social artyom@piefed.social
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#20 · (edited) Quote Reply

This site is a (possibly AI) content mill. The sources are all circular. It probably isn't Motorola. Edited, see comment for clarifications... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47053243 GrapheneOS was contacted by one of the largest Android OEMs in June 2025 and we're actively working with them. They're going to be announcing our partnership in March 2026 and the phones meeting our requireme...

one of the largest

The source is not this publication, the source is Motorola, as posted by a user on Reddit.

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Alvaro lemmy.blahaj.zone Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-12-24
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This site is a (possibly AI) content mill. The sources are all circular. It probably isn't Motorola. Edited, see comment for clarifications... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47053243 GrapheneOS was contacted by one of the largest Android OEMs in June 2025 and we're actively working with them. They're going to be announcing our partnership in March 2026 and the phones meeting our requireme...

That sucks because Motorola actually is great at hardware

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Evil_Shrubbery thelemmy.club Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club
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This site is a (possibly AI) content mill. The sources are all circular. It probably isn't Motorola. Edited, see comment for clarifications... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47053243 GrapheneOS was contacted by one of the largest Android OEMs in June 2025 and we're actively working with them. They're going to be announcing our partnership in March 2026 and the phones meeting our requireme...

I would love something with a good camera (sensor & (zoom) optics).

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Tetsuo jlai.lu Tetsuo@jlai.lu
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I wish they would support the fairphone.

I suppose it would be a good candidate for that.

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DudeImMacGyver kbin.earth DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth
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Hello Moto

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Ek-Hou-Van-Braai piefed.social Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social
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I wish they would support the fairphone. I suppose it would be a good candidate for that.

Same it feels like they'd make a really good match

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pasdechance jlai.lu pasdechance@jlai.lu
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one of the largest The source is not this publication, the source is Motorola, as posted by a user on Reddit.

True. They are 11th or 12th so that is one of the largest.

I just meant they for the other comments just reference themselves.

Anyway, it would be neat to have more options and this isn't the first time it has been brought up

https://www.androidauthority.com/graphene-os-major-android-oem-partnership-3606853/

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pasdechance jlai.lu pasdechance@jlai.lu
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#27 · Quote Reply

This site is a (possibly AI) content mill. The sources are all circular. It probably isn't Motorola. Edited, see comment for clarifications... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47053243 GrapheneOS was contacted by one of the largest Android OEMs in June 2025 and we're actively working with them. They're going to be announcing our partnership in March 2026 and the phones meeting our requireme...

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116148741815778719

We never ruled out working with Motorola, Samsung, Nothing, OnePlus, etc. We said none of their current devices meet our requirements which remains the case for all of them. Only future devices from our OEM partner can be supported and it's going to take time to meet all of the update and security feature requirements. It's planned for 2027 but we aren't sure when in 2027 the devices will be launched. There's a lot of work to get done on updates, MTE, etc. before then.

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e8CArkcAuLE piefed.social e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.social
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#28 · Quote Reply

That's good news. I hope it's a budget device with a plastic case, SD card, IR emitter, notification LED, and headphone jack.

e-ink screen!
i adored the motorola-f3 with the led segment screen

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glitching lemmy.ml glitching@lemmy.ml
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#29 · Quote Reply

nothing is confirmed here, chill with the high-fives

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plateee piefed.social plateee@piefed.social
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Is that thumbnail ai generated? The logos look weird.

You didn't know that GrapheneOS is diversifying by also deciding to start manufacturing footballs (soccer for our American friends)?

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lemmysmash beehaw.org lemmysmash@beehaw.org
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Damn, that's surprising. Motorola has never been known for a strong update policy, and having a good update schedule is one of the key requirements for GOS. I hope they are addressing this issue.

I think this is exactly the win-win situation from this possible partnership: Motorola makes secure hardware and firmware patches, GrapheneOS takes care of the whole software security and timely updates (they already do).

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ikidd lemmy.world ikidd@lemmy.world
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#32 · Quote Reply

Razr+ please.

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Buffalobuffalo lemmy.dbzer0.com Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#33 · Quote Reply

You didn't know that GrapheneOS is diversifying by also deciding to start manufacturing footballs (soccer for our American friends)?

Where can i get a football that the NSA cant crack?

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matelt feddit.uk matelt@feddit.uk
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#34 · Quote Reply

Omgomgomg that's amazing news!

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Jo Miran lemmy.ml JoMiran@lemmy.ml
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#35 · Quote Reply

Called it.

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GreenKnight23 lemmy.world GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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#36 · Quote Reply

Called it.

same.

it's about market share and money.

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cally [he/they] pawb.social callyral@pawb.social
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#37 · (edited) Quote Reply

yay! i have a motorola phone hopefully i will be able to install grapheneOS on it some day. though for some stupid government/banking apps i'll probably need a secondary, crappier phone with the usual spyware on it. i really hope that they make grapheneOS available for already purchased Motorola phones.

edit: from what i see it looks like it's probably gonna be for newer devices, and that is very sad, as i'm only gonna buy a new phone in like 3 to 4 years. Anyway, at least motorola has pretty good hardware and ok prices. Wait, do newer motorola phones come with a headphone jack? my Moto G55 has a headphone jack.

https://keepandroidopen.org/ <- offtopic with the post, but i'm just leaving this here in case someone hasn't seen it.

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42beansinapod discuss.tchncs.de 42beansinapod@discuss.tchncs.de
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Anything but a mainstream brand!

Pixels are stupid for GOS since the HW is mid at best and overpriced.
If you are buying a phone to flash it anyway, the decision should be made only on hardware (and ability to flash)

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johnyreeferseed lemmy.dbzer0.com johnyreeferseed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#39 · Quote Reply

yay! i have a motorola phone hopefully i will be able to install grapheneOS on it some day. though for some stupid government/banking apps i'll probably need a secondary, crappier phone with the usual spyware on it. i really hope that they make grapheneOS available for already purchased Motorola phones. edit: from what i see it looks like it's probably gonna be for newer devices, and that is ve...

My 2021 Moto edge does not have a head phone jack.

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darthsundhaft piefed.social darthsundhaft@piefed.social
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#40 · Quote Reply

Fucking finally. The only reason I couldn't get my hands on GrapheneOS is due to having to buy a Pixel which, wherever I look, would be around $400-$500 for something that they themselves admit would likely only get around 7 years of support.

I can't spend that kind of money right now. I need something below $300 and if possible, below $200.

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cally [he/they] pawb.social callyral@pawb.social
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My 2021 Moto edge does not have a head phone jack.

My Motorola phone was released in 2024 and has a headphone jack, so maybe it's just some of their models that don't have them. I just looked up a more recent 2025 model (Moto G 5G) and it also has a 3.5mm jack, so it looks like Motorola will keep having headphone jacks, hopefully this is the case as I don't like having to charge my headphones.

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blackjam_alex lemmy.world blackjam_alex@lemmy.world
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#42 · Quote Reply

This site is a (possibly AI) content mill. The sources are all circular. It probably isn't Motorola. Edited, see comment for clarifications... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47053243 GrapheneOS was contacted by one of the largest Android OEMs in June 2025 and we're actively working with them. They're going to be announcing our partnership in March 2026 and the phones meeting our requireme...

Those aren't the real logos either.

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Ulrich feddit.org Ulrich@feddit.org
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#43 · Quote Reply

Lenovo* Motorola does not have a mobile phone business, Google absorbed that ages ago. The brand and only the brand was sold to Lenovo.

Motorola does not have a mobile phone business

What do you call these?

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zod000 lemmy.dbzer0.com zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#44 · Quote Reply

This is especially good news since Motorola makes some of the few phones with a headphone jack. I just hope that whatever phone they make isn't some nearly 7" behemoth like their current line.

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boonhet sopuli.xyz boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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#45 · Quote Reply

This is especially good news since Motorola makes some of the few phones with a headphone jack. I just hope that whatever phone they make isn't some nearly 7" behemoth like their current line.

At this point you HAVE to make it a 7" behemoth to get sales, but a lower-volume model with a smaller screen would be a great addition to the lineup. But I can't imagine too many people buy them because Apple stopped making the Minis and they don't usually stop making things that make them money. I actually loved my 13 mini. If this Motorola-GrapheneOS partnership ends up spawning a phone of that size (I do think a lot of privacy enthusiasts may also be smaller phone enthusiasts), I may finally go back to Android.

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boonhet sopuli.xyz boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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#46 · Quote Reply

Fucking finally. The only reason I couldn't get my hands on GrapheneOS is due to having to buy a Pixel which, wherever I look, would be around $400-$500 for something that they themselves admit would likely only get around 7 years of support. I can't spend that kind of money right now. I need something below $300 and if possible, below $200.

Honestly, $400-$500 for 7 years of support is a killer deal. 5 years ago the only manufacturer to give a meaningful amount of support was Apple, everyone else was up to 2, even for flagships.

But I completely understand your situation, especially if you're trying to be fiscally responsible and NOT get your phone on a payment plan of some sort. The 7 years of support means you might be able to find a 2 year old Pixel for below 300 though? Unless they don't depreciate fast enough for that.

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roofuskit lemmy.world roofuskit@lemmy.world
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#47 · Quote Reply

Motorola does not have a mobile phone business What do you call these?

Phones made by Lenovo with the dead Motorola brand slapped on them. Lenovo had a phone business before they bought the Motorola name and just put it on their phones.

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SirMaple__ lemmy.ca SirMaple__@lemmy.ca
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snowdriftissue lemmy.world snowdriftissue@lemmy.world
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#49 · (edited) Quote Reply

That's good news. I hope it's a budget device with a plastic case, SD card, IR emitter, notification LED, and headphone jack.

GOS already confirmed it's shipping with a flagship snapdragon SOC so it won't be a budget device. Maybe a future model though.

I think most of those other features are a long shot as well. The GOS team hasn't really specified any preferences for non-security related features and I doubt Motorola would suddenly change their hardware design/direction.

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artyom piefed.social artyom@piefed.social
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#50 · Quote Reply

GOS already confirmed it's shipping with a flagship snapdragon SOC so it won't be a budget device. Maybe a future model though. I think most of those other features are a long shot as well. The GOS team hasn't really specified any preferences for non-security related features and I doubt Motorola would suddenly change their hardware design/direction.

Where did you see that?

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snowdriftissue lemmy.world snowdriftissue@lemmy.world
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#51 · (edited) Quote Reply

Anything but a mainstream brand! Pixels are stupid for GOS since the HW is mid at best and overpriced. If you are buying a phone to flash it anyway, the decision should be made only on hardware (and ability to flash)

HW is mid at best and overpriced

GOS has strict security requirements and so far Pixels have been the only devices out there that both allow GOS installation and meet their security requirements. Simple as.

Personally apart from repairability, I see very little meaningful difference in phone hardware these days. And a series Pixels are very reasonably priced.

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