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Xabbit🐰 lemmy.zip xabit24368@lemmy.zip
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#52 · Quote Reply

While I agree with the sentiment, you don't have to go much more than 100 years back before it was common that the upper class led armies more or less from the front. For long stretches of history, leading from the front and in general being in the army has been one of the ways the upper class has held on to its power.

Cool that's not how it works now

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Nastybutler lemmy.world Nastybutler@lemmy.world
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#53 · Quote Reply

You guys are so fucking cooked down there.

We won't be the only ones

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myrmidex belgae.social myrmidex@belgae.social
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#54 · (edited) Quote Reply

While I agree with the sentiment, you don't have to go much more than 100 years back before it was common that the upper class led armies more or less from the front. For long stretches of history, leading from the front and in general being in the army has been one of the ways the upper class has held on to its power.

Good point. I did not look too far back indeed. It would be interesting to know at what point that shift happened. Was it because of a weapons upgrade, or the increased complexity of the state, or ... ?

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Earthman_Jim lemmy.zip Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip
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#55 · (edited) Quote Reply

He's literally paraphrasing Farquaad at this point. "Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make!"

I wonder if he'd be a better person if he'd seen Shrek as a child. I know Shrek is Dreamworks, but has anyone tried sitting him down and showing him Pixar's catalogue? Maybe something humane will click... I'd start with Inside Out, and then maybe freak him out a bit with Up.

Who am I kidding, he'd probably walk away in the end thinking "What was the point of that? I'm already trying to do Wall-E."

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fartographer lemmy.world fartographer@lemmy.world
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#56 · Quote Reply

WHY DO THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOOOOOOR

Hangars sitting dripped in oil, crying, "FREEEEDOOOOOOM"

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FatVegan leminal.space FatVegan@leminal.space
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#57 · Quote Reply

Man i hope these fuckers die there.

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AzuranAurora piefed.ca AzuranAurora@piefed.ca
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#58 · Quote Reply

Wars should be fought by their leaders, not their citizens.

When the sky darkens and the prospect is war, who's given the gun and been pushed to the floor and expected to die for the land of our birth, though we've never owned one lousy handful of earth?

We're the first ones to starve, we're the first ones to die. The first ones in line for that pie-in-the-sky, and we're always the last when the cream is shared out, for the worker is working when the fat cat's about.

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D_C sh.itjust.works D_C@sh.itjust.works
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#59 · Quote Reply

Imagine dying to protect a paedo from the repercussions of his many decades of raping children.

Here lies Chad DudeMcHamburger.
Blown to pieces in Iran for a person who didn't, and still doesn't, give a shit about anyone, even his own children.
Rest in peace knowing that you were a distraction from the kiddie fiddling for a few days.
RIP.

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demizerone lemmy.world demizerone@lemmy.world
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#60 · Quote Reply

Send the maga maggots first

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GraniteM lemmy.world GraniteM@lemmy.world
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#61 · (edited) Quote Reply

Wars should be fought by their leaders, not their citizens.

"But then all of our leaders would be 'roided up MMA specialists!"

"And would that be any worse than our current arrangement?"

"..."

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njm1314 lemmy.world njm1314@lemmy.world
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#62 · Quote Reply

Could you imagine if ol' bone spurs had actually went to Vietnam?

Grenading hopefully.

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njm1314 lemmy.world njm1314@lemmy.world
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#63 · Quote Reply

Slop

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Mulligrubs lemmy.world Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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#64 · Quote Reply

In a letter regarding that snub, Trump wrote to Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre in January that “considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace.”

This is revolting, we are fucked. What a weenie

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Mulligrubs lemmy.world Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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#65 · Quote Reply

I wonder if he'd be a better person if he'd seen Shrek as a child. I know Shrek is Dreamworks, but has anyone tried sitting him down and showing him Pixar's catalogue? Maybe something humane will click... I'd start with Inside Out, and then maybe freak him out a bit with Up. Who am I kidding, he'd probably walk away in the end thinking "What was the point of that? I'm already trying to do Wall-E."

You think Trump could follow an entire film without falling asleep?

I doubt it

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thlibos thelemmy.club thlibos@thelemmy.club
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#66 · Quote Reply

Could you imagine if ol' bone spurs had actually went to Vietnam?

The suspension of disbelief that this giant orange milksop would ever enlist or fight for anything is too great, sorry.

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nocturne slrpnk.net nocturne@slrpnk.net
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#67 · Quote Reply

"But then all of our leaders would be 'roided up MMA specialists!" "And would that be any worse than our current arrangement?" "..."

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Gammelfisch lemmy.world Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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#68 · Quote Reply

Send the maga maggots first

Indeed, the useless racist neo-Nazi fucks voted for this BS. Will Krasnov encourage his sons to join the US military and fight, fight, fight?

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ameancow lemmy.world ameancow@lemmy.world
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#69 · (edited) Quote Reply

You guys are so fucking cooked down there.
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LumberjackRanger leminal.space LumberjackRanger@leminal.space
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#70 · Quote Reply

In a letter regarding that snub, Trump wrote to Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre in January that “considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace.” This is revolting, we are fucked. What a weenie

"Weenie" is a pretty gentle choice of wordage.

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Gammelfisch lemmy.world Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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#71 · Quote Reply

The pedo sack of shit and his thugs strike again by murdering innocent people and wasting billions from the US treasury. All this shit to distract from the Epstein files.

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lando55 lemmy.zip lando55@lemmy.zip
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#72 · Quote Reply

In a letter regarding that snub, Trump wrote to Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre in January that “considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace.” This is revolting, we are fucked. What a weenie

...he knows the Nobel Committee is a private entity right?

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SkyeStarfall lemmy.blahaj.zone SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-06-12
#73 · Quote Reply

You ever read the shit Euroids say on this website? They won't.

Calling us "Euroids" is sure to build sympathy

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MonkeMischief lemmy.today MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
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#74 · Quote Reply

Good point. I did not look too far back indeed. It would be interesting to know at what point that shift happened. Was it because of a weapons upgrade, or the increased complexity of the state, or ... ?

I'm making a guess but probably about the point somebody in a perch half a mile away could snipe said leader who was obviously showing rank and "leading from the front" haha.

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drunkpostdisaster lemmy.world drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
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#75 · Quote Reply

Man i hope these fuckers die there.

Hopefully some will do the right thing.

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FlexibleToast lemmy.world FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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#76 · Quote Reply

Send the maga maggots first

Many of them are in the military. I feel bad for the members that aren't and just want to finish their enlistment or retire.

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MonkeMischief lemmy.today MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
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#77 · Quote Reply

Hangars sitting dripped in oil, crying, "FREEEEDOOOOOOM"

"Handed to obsoletion, still, you feed us liiies from the tablecloth !"

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MonkeMischief lemmy.today MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
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#78 · (edited) Quote Reply

He was regarded as an athletic and active teenager. And yet.... His father's personal doctor somehow decided bonespurs after he ran out of college deferments. The rich don't die in wars that poors are fighting for the rich.

That's so weird. Maybe it's just my generational experience but I could never picture the guy even so much as jogging. I just see a little rotund orange child pushing everybody over and trying his damndest to see up his classmates' skirts, getting caught repeatedly and never facing consequences.

But who knows, maybe at a certain point in the past that's unfair to a child ruined into a monster by every responsible figure he encountered.

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The D Quuuuuill slrpnk.net Quill7513@slrpnk.net
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#79 · Quote Reply

...he knows the Nobel Committee is a private entity right?

i think he's pretty clearly demonstrated he doesn't understand the Nobel committee even a little bit

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NatakuNox lemmy.world NatakuNox@lemmy.world
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#80 · Quote Reply

It's always projection with fascists.

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PlaidBaron lemmy.world PlaidBaron@lemmy.world
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#81 · Quote Reply

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Oh gee, thank god I have an American telling me about this. I surely didnt already know this about my own country.

Anyway we arent running around shooting people in the head in the middle of the street so yeah, we arent even close to how fucked you guys are.

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KulunkelBoom lemmus.org KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org
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#82 · Quote Reply

Yes, but that's a price he's perfectly willing to pay. Until the country in question bends the knee to the new emperor orangue - Lord President Trumpsky will slaughter as many people as he needs, American, enemy, doesn't matter... it's a money thing. Has nothing to do with countries - people like trump think they're above countries.

I hear he's going to start up the draft again. They need bodies to toss into the mulching machine. 18 (or earlier) to 40 eligible for the draft. Hillbilly shitkicking goat roping jerkoffs welcome of any age. You old fat guys make good sand bags.

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Holytimes sh.itjust.works Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
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#83 · Quote Reply

Oh gee, thank god I have an American telling me about this. I surely didnt already know this about my own country. Anyway we arent running around shooting people in the head in the middle of the street so yeah, we arent even close to how fucked you guys are.
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myrmidex belgae.social myrmidex@belgae.social
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#84 · Quote Reply

I'm making a guess but probably about the point somebody in a perch half a mile away could snipe said leader who was obviously showing rank and "leading from the front" haha.

Would an archer be able to do that? A spearman? Happened in 300 but I doubt that was accurate ;)

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PlaidBaron lemmy.world PlaidBaron@lemmy.world
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#85 · (edited) Quote Reply

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Oh my goodness we do?! What would we do without Americans enlightening us. I had no idea. Boy you guys are so helpful.

Here is the differnce. Canada has an entire government panel on Truth and Reconciliation and is actively working with First Nations to implement self-governance for Indigenous communities.

The US is trying to deport Indigenous Americans.

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Vlyn lemmy.zip Vlyn@lemmy.zip
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#86 · Quote Reply

Just got a 3 day Reddit ban for writing "I'm team blood clot."

Damn pedo defenders.

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot lemmy.world WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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#87 · Quote Reply

Many of them are in the military. I feel bad for the members that aren't and just want to finish their enlistment or retire.

The American military consists entirely of volunteers and their track record has been well-established for decades now. Anyone who signed up or re-upped after the War on Terror knew what they were getting into.

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FlexibleToast lemmy.world FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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#88 · Quote Reply

The American military consists entirely of volunteers and their track record has been well-established for decades now. Anyone who signed up or re-upped after the War on Terror knew what they were getting into.

I disagree. Trump first term and Biden were anti new wars. That was 8 years of draw dawn (really longer than that as Obama started the draw down and ended the Afghan war). Enough time to convince a high schooler to join. Also, don't forget that the military is probably the best social mobility apparatus in the US. When I joined i was working at Walmart, when I got it I was making over 6 figures with a 4 year degree and no student debt. In 2020 I was at 10 years and made the decision to get out. Sometimes I think about how I would only be 4 years away from a pension right now, but I would be asked to commit war crimes; and I'm very glad I didn't try to stick it out. It's not as simple as you make it sound. Many of our troops are just people trying to get ahead in life.

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot lemmy.world WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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#89 · Quote Reply

I disagree. Trump first term and Biden were anti new wars. That was 8 years of draw dawn (really longer than that as Obama started the draw down and ended the Afghan war). Enough time to convince a high schooler to join. Also, don't forget that the military is probably the best social mobility apparatus in the US. When I joined i was working at Walmart, when I got it I was making over 6 figures...

Saying "They do it for the money" isn't much of a defence.

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FlexibleToast lemmy.world FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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#90 · Quote Reply

Saying "They do it for the money" isn't much of a defence.

Oh yeah, and why do you do your job?

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ChunkMcHorkle lemmy.world ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world
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#91 · Quote Reply

Just got a 3 day Reddit ban for writing "I'm team blood clot." Damn pedo defenders.

“I’m team blood clot.”

Yes! Team DVT here. I'm genuinely sorry Reddit couldn't see the charm in that, because I sure as fuck do.

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
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#92 · Quote Reply

The pedo sack of shit and his thugs strike again by murdering innocent people and wasting billions from the US treasury. All this shit to distract from the Epstein files.

It's not just to distract from the Epstein files, that's a sweet little benefit of course, but it's mainly just a continuation of the exact same US imperialism that has been ignored for nearly a century. They didn't need Epstein files to invade Afghanistan, or Iraq, or any of the dozens of nations subjected to US interventionism. The Epstein class have been fucking all of us over for decades, they just enjoy it with kids more.

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CapeWearingAeroplane sopuli.xyz CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
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#93 · Quote Reply

Cool that's not how it works now

The point is that history has shown us that people will wage war for profit even if it means putting themselves and their children at risk by being directly involved in hostilities.

The whole "we wouldn't have wars if rich people and their kids had to fight in them" idea just doesn't hold up to historical precedent. People with power are likely to start wars regardless, because they see it as a means of increasing their power.

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CapeWearingAeroplane sopuli.xyz CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
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#94 · Quote Reply

Good point. I did not look too far back indeed. It would be interesting to know at what point that shift happened. Was it because of a weapons upgrade, or the increased complexity of the state, or ... ?

To be fair it probably came from the fact that armies that protected strategic leaders at the expense of common soldiers were, over time, more effective. Military doctrine has a tendency to shift towards whatever works best, because the armies that don't adopt it lose wars and don't get to keep fighting.

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somethingDotExe lemmy.world Bullerfar@lemmy.world
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#95 · Quote Reply

I wonder if he'd be a better person if he'd seen Shrek as a child. I know Shrek is Dreamworks, but has anyone tried sitting him down and showing him Pixar's catalogue? Maybe something humane will click... I'd start with Inside Out, and then maybe freak him out a bit with Up. Who am I kidding, he'd probably walk away in the end thinking "What was the point of that? I'm already trying to do Wall-E."

He wouldn't understand why the grandpa doesn't fuck the kid.

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saimen feddit.org saimen@feddit.org
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#96 · Quote Reply

Can someone explain to me why the Trump administration isn't afraid of a military coup?

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#97 · Quote Reply

Can someone explain to me why the Trump administration isn't afraid of a military coup?

The military is 95% Trump supporters

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myrmidex belgae.social myrmidex@belgae.social
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#98 · Quote Reply

To be fair it probably came from the fact that armies that protected strategic leaders at the expense of common soldiers were, over time, more effective. Military doctrine has a tendency to shift towards whatever works best, because the armies that don't adopt it lose wars and don't get to keep fighting.

Strategic leaders seem more a thing of the past, few would suspect Trump of being strategic, so I think I'm misunderstanding the point here. If Trump were taken out by an enemy from afar, it would not impact the US strategy, right?

Having let this entire discussion sink in a bit, it might also have to do with the decreasing influence of religion on leaders. Where in earlier times honour before God was an incentive for a king to fight among soldiers, such considerations may have vanished since the Enlightenment. But I'm not a historian, just pulling this out of my behind, :)

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CapeWearingAeroplane sopuli.xyz CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
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#99 · Quote Reply

Strategic leaders seem more a thing of the past, few would suspect Trump of being strategic, so I think I'm misunderstanding the point here. If Trump were taken out by an enemy from afar, it would not impact the US strategy, right? Having let this entire discussion sink in a bit, it might also have to do with the decreasing influence of religion on leaders. Where in earlier times honour before ...

With respect to strategic leaders I was more referring to officers than political leaders. Historically, the path from military power to political power was also shorter: A common way to get political power was to first establish yourself as a high ranking officer.

This whole pipeline of "protecting officers, because it makes militarily sense" via "high ranking officers often end up with political power" to todays situation seems a rather natural development to me.

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BarneyPiccolo lemmy.today BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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#100 · Quote Reply

"In order to get elected BarackObama will start a war with Iran" - Trump, Nov 29, 2011 "BarackObama will attack Iran to get re-elected." - Trump, Jan 17, 2012 "Now that Obama's poll numbers are in tailspin - watch for him to launch a strike on Libya or Iran. He is desperate." - Trump, Oct 9, 2012 "I predict that President Obama will at some point start a war with Iran in order to save face!" - ...

"Well, it looks like Obama finally attacked Iran, fucked it up, and lost." - Trump, 2 years from now.

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BarneyPiccolo lemmy.today BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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#101 · (edited) Quote Reply

...he knows the Nobel Committee is a private entity right?

No, he doesn't know that, he's virtuosically stupid.

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