RetroFed Forum
Your home away from modern life.
Trump Admits Americans Will Likely Die in New War Nobody Wants
Post Reply
AuthorMessage
Basic Glitch sh.itjust.works AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-24
Quote

The Republican president has previously referred to fallen American service personnel as “suckers” and “losers.” He has never served in the military, having in fact dodged the Vietnam War draft on five occasions. The last of those owed to a bone spur diagnosis. It’s a condition that usually affects elderly individuals. He was 22 at the time.

Trump has similarly threatened to invade U.S. allies Panama, Canada, Colombia, Mexico, and Greenland, which is an autonomous territory of Denmark, a fellow NATO member.

The MAGA president’s growing, campaign-promise-busting appetite for military engagement also comes amid his bitter disappointment at being passed over for last year’s Nobel Peace Prize, despite a concerted public and private push by his allies. It was previously awarded to his Democratic predecessor, President Barack Obama.

In a letter regarding that snub, Trump wrote to Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre in January that “considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace.”

The Norwegian government is not affiliated with the Nobel Committee, which decides independently to whom it will grant its awards. Trump’s claim to have stopped eight wars remains highly disputed.

832   Original
dhork lemmy.world dhork@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#2 · Quote Reply

81
nocturne slrpnk.net nocturne@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-06-13
#3 · Quote Reply

Wars should be fought by their leaders, not their citizens.

125
brvslvrnst lemmy.ml bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-10-21
#4 · Quote Reply

Wars should be fought by their leaders, not their citizens.

"Why don't presidents fight the wars? Why do they always send the poor?"

96
U7826391786239 piefed.zip U7826391786239@piefed.zip
Joined: 2026-02-16
#5 · (edited) Quote Reply

[deleted]
46
Banana sh.itjust.works Banana@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-14
#6 · Quote Reply

"Why don't presidents fight the wars? Why do they always send the poor?"

WHY DO THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOOOOOOR

64
ccunning lemmy.world ccunning@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-01
#7 · Quote Reply

Wars should be fought by their leaders, not their citizens.

“Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor”

37
TheDemonBuer lemmy.world TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#8 · Quote Reply

I'm ashamed he's my president but I'm more ashamed that a significant number of my fellow Americans don't just tolerate his words and behavior, they fully and enthusiastically support them.

73
pinheadednightmare lemmy.world pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-05
#9 · Quote Reply

He doesn’t care because his family is not fighting in it.

24
lostlittletimeonthis fedinsfw.app lostlittletimeonthis@fedinsfw.app
Joined: 2026-02-28
#10 · Quote Reply

Wars should be fought by their leaders, not their citizens.

There's an old saying about old men dreaming up wars for young men to die in

10
[object Object] lemmy.ca panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-07-20
#11 · Quote Reply

How can he betray the ideals of the FIFA Peace Prize and the Bored of Peace so easily?!

63
vga sopuli.xyz vga@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2024-05-27
#12 · (edited) Quote Reply

[deleted]
0
Substance_P lemmy.world Substance_P@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-26
#13 · Quote Reply

"In order to get elected BarackObama will start a war with Iran" - Trump, Nov 29, 2011

"BarackObama will attack Iran to get re-elected." - Trump, Jan 17, 2012

"Now that Obama's poll numbers are in tailspin - watch for him to launch a strike on Libya or Iran. He is desperate." - Trump, Oct 9, 2012

"I predict that President Obama will at some point start a war with Iran in order to save face!" - Trump, Sept 16, 2013

242
Jerkface (any/all) lemmy.ca jerkface@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-06
#14 · Quote Reply

[deleted]

At any cost?

2
theherk lemmy.world theherk@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#15 · Quote Reply

Wars should be fought by their leaders, not their citizens.

Imagine a king who fights his own battles. Wouldn’t that be a sight.

— Troy, Achilles

47
AngryCommieKender lemmy.world AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-02
#16 · Quote Reply

Bone spurs are actually a VERY common Medical Discharge with Full Benefits from Boot Camp. My division alone had around 12% of the recruits develop bone spurs from marching with full rucksacks. This was the Navy, I can't even imagine how bad it is in the Army and Marines. That being said, we know what causes it in young people. Excessive marching. I seriously doubt that Drumpf was even in marching band. (I was in marching band, and thought those marching drills were excessive, until I got to Boot Camp.)

13
neukenindekeuken sh.itjust.works neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-04-08
#17 · Quote Reply

[deleted]

That's just his normal list

16
Stern lemmy.world Stern@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-14
#18 · Quote Reply

Wars should be fought by their leaders, not their citizens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

Evergreen, and written by someone with unimpeachable credentials wrt war.

18
bitjunkie lemmy.world bitjunkie@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-06-19
#19 · Quote Reply

Bone spurs are actually a VERY common Medical Discharge with Full Benefits from Boot Camp. My division alone had around 12% of the recruits develop bone spurs from marching with full rucksacks. This was the Navy, I can't even imagine how bad it is in the Army and Marines. That being said, we know what causes it in young people. Excessive marching. I seriously doubt that Drumpf was even in march...

It bring a common discharge reason was probably specifically why that diagnosis was used. As with most things, he didn't learn enough about it to make the lie convincing, i.e. he'd have to show up to boot and actually do something for a bit in order to get them.

13
bitjunkie lemmy.world bitjunkie@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-06-19
#20 · Quote Reply

He doesn’t care because his family is not fighting in it.

Let's make sure they are in the next one.

4
nocturne slrpnk.net nocturne@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-06-13
#21 · (edited) Quote Reply

“Politicians hide themselves away They only started the war Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor”

Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait 'til their judgement day comes, yeah

The problem is, for most of them, their judgement day never comes. And sadly I do not think the states are going to pull out of this one on their own.

13
humanamerican lemmy.zip humanamerican@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-04
#22 · Quote Reply

I'm ashamed he's my president but I'm more ashamed that a significant number of my fellow Americans don't just tolerate his words and behavior, they fully and enthusiastically support them.

You're not responsible for being born on the same plot of land as a bunch of morons you don't even know

50
azimir lemmy.ml azimir@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-02
#23 · Quote Reply

Bone spurs are actually a VERY common Medical Discharge with Full Benefits from Boot Camp. My division alone had around 12% of the recruits develop bone spurs from marching with full rucksacks. This was the Navy, I can't even imagine how bad it is in the Army and Marines. That being said, we know what causes it in young people. Excessive marching. I seriously doubt that Drumpf was even in march...

He was regarded as an athletic and active teenager. And yet.... His father's personal doctor somehow decided bonespurs after he ran out of college deferments.

The rich don't die in wars that poors are fighting for the rich.

18
Frozengyro lemmy.world Frozengyro@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-03
#24 · Quote Reply

Imagine a king who fights his own battles. Wouldn’t that be a sight. — Troy, Achilles

There's nothing new under the sun

— King Solomon 950BCE

18
Tempus Fugit lemmy.world Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-18
#25 · Quote Reply

Go and die for your overlords then. Fucking disgrace of a country and I hope we fail.

22
myfunnyaccountname lemmy.zip myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-05
#26 · Quote Reply

How can he betray the ideals of the FIFA Peace Prize and the Bored of Peace so easily?!

FIFA is so corrupt they are probably helping to fund this.

17
Xaphanos lemmy.world Xaphanos@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#27 · Quote Reply

You're not responsible for being born on the same plot of land as a bunch of morons you don't even know

Thank you for this.
I hope the rest of humanity sees it your way when this is over.

28
Hermit_Lailoken lemmy.world Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-11
#28 · Quote Reply

You're not responsible for being born on the same plot of land as a bunch of morons you don't even know

Unfortunately, I know some of these morons. They were removed from my circle of friends.

12
TrickDacy lemmy.world TrickDacy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-27
#29 · Quote Reply

"In order to get elected BarackObama will start a war with Iran" - Trump, Nov 29, 2011 "BarackObama will attack Iran to get re-elected." - Trump, Jan 17, 2012 "Now that Obama's poll numbers are in tailspin - watch for him to launch a strike on Libya or Iran. He is desperate." - Trump, Oct 9, 2012 "I predict that President Obama will at some point start a war with Iran in order to save face!" - ...

It's always projection with fascists.

89
humanamerican lemmy.zip humanamerican@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-04
#30 · Quote Reply

Thank you for this. I hope the rest of humanity sees it your way when this is over.

Many won't. And that is understandable. But our only hope for the Star Trek future I've wanted since a kid is international solidarity among average people, regardless of what their stupid governments do.

12
humanamerican lemmy.zip humanamerican@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-04
#31 · Quote Reply

Unfortunately, I know some of these morons. They were removed from my circle of friends.

I also have "lost" "friends" because they couldn't pull their heads out of their asses.

13
ThePowerOfGeek lemmy.world ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-11
#32 · (edited) Quote Reply

He's literally paraphrasing Farquaad at this point.

"Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make!"

88
ThePowerOfGeek lemmy.world ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-11
#33 · Quote Reply

He doesn’t care because his family is not fighting in it.

Yup. Black Sabbath is right again.

Politicians hide themselves away

They only started the war

Why should they go out to fight?

They leave that role to the poor

12
CharlesDarwin lemmy.world CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#34 · Quote Reply

But, but, but "peace president"!

14
CharlesDarwin lemmy.world CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#35 · Quote Reply

I also have "lost" "friends" because they couldn't pull their heads out of their asses.

It's funny how many on the far right are doing the reactionary centrist pikachu face over normal Americans cutting them off. They act like it's the liberals that are being unreasonable.

I just saw a clip of that dumbass Watters complaining about this phenomenon. Do they really think they have some kind of right to be the very worst of people and others are supposed to invite them over to their houses for things like Thanksgiving? Or that women have to not only date them, but consider them marriage material?

They like to pretend they are being cut off for merely being "conservative", as if it was just about something like deregulation and tax policy. If that being "conservative" didn't include so many truly gross things like misogyny and nativism and xenophobia and xtian theocracy and racism and so on, I doubt anyone would cut them off socially.

People are so tired of their shit and the fact that it has personal consequences for them makes them so mad.

15
Hermit_Lailoken lemmy.world Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-11
#36 · Quote Reply

I also have "lost" "friends" because they couldn't pull their heads out of their asses.

It sucks, however, I cannot be associated with such immorality and ignorance.

5
cally [he/they] pawb.social callyral@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-09-14
#37 · Quote Reply

!nottheonion@lemmy.world

2
CharlesDarwin lemmy.world CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#38 · Quote Reply

Wars should be fought by their leaders, not their citizens.

How about if these wars are fought by dumbass Pedonald supporters.

Anyone that bought any of those stupid red caps or flew a Pedonald flag or wore a "fuck your feelings" shirt gets to be on the front lines...

10
humanamerican lemmy.zip humanamerican@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-04
#39 · Quote Reply

It sucks, however, I cannot be associated with such immorality and ignorance.

Frankly I didn't realize how much of myself I was masking by trying to maintain relationships with people who have anti-civilizational worldviews. I thought I was being open minded and accepting, but I was actually just dimming my own light and giving their horrific beliefs legitimacy.

It feels liberating to have solid boundaries.

10
HootinNHollerin lemmy.dbzer0.com HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-12-08
#40 · Quote Reply

He wants Americans to die so he can dramatically escalate

6
kryptonianCodeMonkey lemmy.world kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-13
#41 · Quote Reply

Could you imagine if ol' bone spurs had actually went to Vietnam?

24
hector lemmy.today hector@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-09-03
#42 · Quote Reply

How about if these wars are fought by dumbass Pedonald supporters. Anyone that bought any of those stupid red caps or flew a Pedonald flag or wore a "fuck your feelings" shirt gets to be on the front lines...

That is exactly what they are doing. The military is mercenary.

2
myrmidex belgae.social myrmidex@belgae.social
Joined: 2025-06-22
#43 · Quote Reply

Could you imagine if ol' bone spurs had actually went to Vietnam?

I can't. If fortunate sons were sent to wars, there'd be no wars.

25
some_designer_dude lemmy.world some_designer_dude@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#44 · Quote Reply

But, but, but "peace president"!

He literally said, “Fuck it and fuck all y’all. No peace prize? No peace!”

14
Sailor Anarres lemmy.dbzer0.com theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-08-22
#45 · (edited) Quote Reply

People should be much more worried about the effects on millions of innocents and not the willing soldiers of imperialism.

6
some_designer_dude lemmy.world some_designer_dude@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#46 · Quote Reply

Time will tell on their power minds Making war just for fun Treating people just like pawns in chess Wait 'til their judgement day comes, yeah The problem is, for most of them, their judgement day never comes. And sadly I do not think the states are going to pull out of this one on their own.

The people wake up and judge every morning, but it’s up to them to pick the day.

2
AreaKode riskeratspizza.com areakode@riskeratspizza.com
Joined: 2026-01-08
#47 · Quote Reply

But, but, but "peace president"!

But I bet the DOW goes over 50K...

4
angstylittlecatboy reddthat.com angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com
Joined: 2023-06-27
#48 · Quote Reply

Thank you for this. I hope the rest of humanity sees it your way when this is over.

You ever read the shit Euroids say on this website? They won't.

5
Hermit_Lailoken lemmy.world Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-11
#49 · Quote Reply

Frankly I didn't realize how much of myself I was masking by trying to maintain relationships with people who have anti-civilizational worldviews. I thought I was being open minded and accepting, but I was actually just dimming my own light and giving their horrific beliefs legitimacy. It feels liberating to have solid boundaries.

Good on you for looking after yourself.

5
CapeWearingAeroplane sopuli.xyz CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-08-08
#50 · Quote Reply

I can't. If fortunate sons were sent to wars, there'd be no wars.

While I agree with the sentiment, you don't have to go much more than 100 years back before it was common that the upper class led armies more or less from the front. For long stretches of history, leading from the front and in general being in the army has been one of the ways the upper class has held on to its power.

3
PlaidBaron lemmy.world PlaidBaron@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
#51 · Quote Reply

You guys are so fucking cooked down there.

29
Post Reply Page 1 of 3   Goto page 1, 2, 3 Last »
Back to top