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schizoidman
lemmy.zip
schizoidman@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-18 |
Samsung is removing several options from the Android recovery menu with the latest updates for Galaxy phones. Specifically, the update is removing:
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Snot Flickerman
lemmy.blahaj.zone
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2023-10-24 |
They want to lock us out of owning the devices we fucking paid for. The sad thing is the average consumer neither understands nor cares. |
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gedaliyah
lemmy.world
gedaliyah@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-15 |
This era is such a pointless attack against the smallest niche of users. I honestly don't get it. How much are a few techie hobbyists costing Google/Samsung's gargantuan bottom lines? They are stepping over dollars to chase after pennies. Just let people who want to modify their phones. It's already prohibitively hard that no one who doesn't have the know-how is installing their own apps outside the stores. |
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aeiou
piefed.social
aeiou@piefed.social Joined: 2025-07-27 |
Welp, next phone is gonna be a challenge to pick. |
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SandySocks
lemmy.world
SandySocks@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-10 |
Welp, next phone is gonna be a challenge to pick.
I decided awhile ago to never get another Samsung phone, at least they keep making it an easy decision to keep. |
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Fishnoodle
lemmy.world
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-28 |
They want to lock us out of owning the devices we fucking paid for. The sad thing is the average consumer neither understands nor cares.
They don't want you to be able to uninstall the government mandated spyware that will be rolling out next |
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aeiou
piefed.social
aeiou@piefed.social Joined: 2025-07-27 |
I decided awhile ago to never get another Samsung phone, at least they keep making it an easy decision to keep.
Alas, I couldn't resist the lure of the fold |
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Zorsith
lemmy.blahaj.zone
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2024-03-01 |
Alas, I couldn't resist the lure of the fold
Pixels have a fold, and you get GrapheneOS for that. I tried a fold for about a week, just felt really uncomfortable holding that expensive a phone with so very little case options |
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the16bitgamer
programming.dev
the16bitgamer@programming.devJoined: 2023-06-16 |
I feel these companies are forgetting the lessons from the mid 2000’s. When you remove the hardware features from your devices, which only the most advanced users use. It doesn’t mean you’ve locked it down, but instead invited these users to find alternative ways to bypass your security. PS3 had Linux support. PS3 removed Linux supper. PS3 was cracked wide open. Xbox One has a Dev mode, devs who wanted to play emulators on their Xboxes could. So the hardware was left be. |
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markovs_gun
lemmy.world
markovs_gun@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-04-04 |
Welp, next phone is gonna be a challenge to pick.
I can't believe the but for the first time in my life I am now just straight up telling normal people to just buy Apple shit instead of Windows or Android devices. For the average person, it will be a better experience and Apple is at least a bit more trustworthy. These morons have destroyed everything that made themselves better than Apple and now there's no point in buying their shit. I think Linux and FOSS are much better paths but the average person will simply just not be able to handle running Linux as soon as something goes wrong. As for a phone I'm legit considering just downgrading to a dumb phone because I'm sick of all of it and everything sucks on the Internet these days anyway. |
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Scrubbles
poptalk.scrubbles.tech
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techJoined: 2023-06-02 |
They want to lock us out of owning the devices we fucking paid for. The sad thing is the average consumer neither understands nor cares.
Fairphone has been great so far, spreading the word that there are alternatives and when it's time for an upgrade, vote with your wallet |
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SkyeStarfall
lemmy.blahaj.zone
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-06-12 |
This era is such a pointless attack against the smallest niche of users. I honestly don't get it. How much are a few techie hobbyists costing Google/Samsung's gargantuan bottom lines? They are stepping over dollars to chase after pennies. Just let people who want to modify their phones. It's already prohibitively hard that no one who doesn't have the know-how is installing their own apps outsid...
They want no competition. They want consumers to have devices, that are necessary for them to have in the modern world, that are locked down and under control of corporate or state entities. It's surveillance capitalism combined with police states It's the cyberpunk future |
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SkyeStarfall
lemmy.blahaj.zone
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-06-12 |
I feel these companies are forgetting the lessons from the mid 2000’s. When you remove the hardware features from your devices, which only the most advanced users use. It doesn’t mean you’ve locked it down, but instead invited these users to find alternative ways to bypass your security. PS3 had Linux support. PS3 removed Linux supper. PS3 was cracked wide open. Xbox One has a Dev mode, devs wh...
Their goal is to have no ways to bypass it. Sure, it's an ideal that might not hold up, but they will keep trying over and over and over again Backed up by server-side authorization, and supported by powerful entities such as banks or governments. They will not stop trying |
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Ilandar
lemmy.today
Ilandar@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-12 |
Fairphone has been great so far, spreading the word that there are alternatives and when it's time for an upgrade, vote with your wallet
Still not available/supported in most of the world, unfortunately. Hopefully they get big enough to open up soon. |
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Ilandar
lemmy.today
Ilandar@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-12 |
This era is such a pointless attack against the smallest niche of users. I honestly don't get it. How much are a few techie hobbyists costing Google/Samsung's gargantuan bottom lines? They are stepping over dollars to chase after pennies. Just let people who want to modify their phones. It's already prohibitively hard that no one who doesn't have the know-how is installing their own apps outsid...
I guess that's part of the problem. It's easy to encroach on these things when there's effectively no pushback. |
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GreenKnight23
lemmy.world
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-21 |
Their goal is to have no ways to bypass it. Sure, it's an ideal that might not hold up, but they will keep trying over and over and over again Backed up by server-side authorization, and supported by powerful entities such as banks or governments. They will not stop trying
a powered system is a vulnerable system. they will never have the ability to 100% lock down hardware. |
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Scrubbles
poptalk.scrubbles.tech
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techJoined: 2023-06-02 |
Still not available/supported in most of the world, unfortunately. Hopefully they get big enough to open up soon.
I'm personally in the states, if that helps, but I agree it needs to take off in more places |
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Scrubbles
poptalk.scrubbles.tech
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techJoined: 2023-06-02 |
I can't believe the but for the first time in my life I am now just straight up telling normal people to just buy Apple shit instead of Windows or Android devices. For the average person, it will be a better experience and Apple is at least a bit more trustworthy. These morons have destroyed everything that made themselves better than Apple and now there's no point in buying their shit. I think...
Fairphone has been pretty legit tbh |
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kepix
lemmy.world
kepix@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-01-06 |
Fairphone has been pretty legit tbh
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eli
lemmy.world
eli@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-22 |
This era is such a pointless attack against the smallest niche of users. I honestly don't get it. How much are a few techie hobbyists costing Google/Samsung's gargantuan bottom lines? They are stepping over dollars to chase after pennies. Just let people who want to modify their phones. It's already prohibitively hard that no one who doesn't have the know-how is installing their own apps outsid...
As a hobbyist if I can't side load my necessary apps to make my phone functional, then I have a non-functional device. And if my device is non-functional then there is no point in having one. I'll legitimately just go back to a flip phone or have no phone. And there's no fucking way I'm touching a iPhone. |
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Shadowcrawler
discuss.tchncs.de
Shadowcrawler@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-07-03 |
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aeiou
piefed.social
aeiou@piefed.social Joined: 2025-07-27 |
I can't believe the but for the first time in my life I am now just straight up telling normal people to just buy Apple shit instead of Windows or Android devices. For the average person, it will be a better experience and Apple is at least a bit more trustworthy. These morons have destroyed everything that made themselves better than Apple and now there's no point in buying their shit. I think...
I was considering the supposed ifold but with Apple shoving Google Gemini and that Israeli AI on to it, I worry about the lack of customization to let me disable such things |
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JayGray91🐉🍕
piefed.social
JayGray91@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-04-08 |
I should have gotten the pixel 9 instead of the s24 ultra. At this point it might just be more economical for me to sell mine at a loss and scrounge up for a pixel 9 and install graphene OS Man I fucking hate this. I like the s24u because of the stylus. Sure I might use it 3 to 4 times a month, I'm always grateful that the pen is bluetooth and can act as a camera remote control, fingerlessly control my phone and just the precision a stylus has. Man fuck my life this is such bullshit How can I block any further updates from samsung? 😬 |
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Scrubbles
poptalk.scrubbles.tech
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techJoined: 2023-06-02 |
https://www.androidauthority.com/fairphone-4-bricked-update-3627690/
K, fairphone 6 has been pretty legit? |
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Rekall Incorporated
piefed.social
Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
After Google decided to ban sideloading (their alleged "change of heart" is increasingly looking like a PR exercise), I decided to not buy any more devices devices based on American platforms. My A73 works fine, but I planning to get a Jolla phone later his year. Going to use both in parallel to aid in switching. I do wish European banks and eGov services started porting their apps to SailfishOS. |
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definitemaybe
lemmy.ca
definitemaybe@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-09-08 |
They don't want you to be able to uninstall the government mandated spyware that will be rolling out next
"Next"? Isn't that already baked in with the platform's spyware that governments can access freely? |
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Baldr
programming.dev
balder1993@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-17 |
Their goal is to have no ways to bypass it. Sure, it's an ideal that might not hold up, but they will keep trying over and over and over again Backed up by server-side authorization, and supported by powerful entities such as banks or governments. They will not stop trying
Surely they will never stop trying, and the challenge will get certain people really worked up to be creative in how to do it. Remember iOS used to have a huge community on hacking the phone. The interest slowed down after Apple sort of implemented the features people used that for. iOS is certainly more secure nowadays, but there’s no shortage of vulnerabilities being constantly discovered, and with vibe coding apparently being integrated even large companies, I suspect more and more dumb vulnerabilities will be looming just waiting to be exploited. |
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Scrubbles
poptalk.scrubbles.tech
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techJoined: 2023-06-02 |
I should have gotten the pixel 9 instead of the s24 ultra. At this point it might just be more economical for me to sell mine at a loss and scrounge up for a pixel 9 and install graphene OS Man I fucking hate this. I like the s24u because of the stylus. Sure I might use it 3 to 4 times a month, I'm always grateful that the pen is bluetooth and can act as a camera remote control, fingerlessly co...
Pixel is doing the same later this year. We have to leave big tech devices altogether. I got the fairphone and its fun again, lineage tying a new phone in 2007. |
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Devconsole
sh.itjust.works
Devconsole@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-12-25 |
This is gonna push a number of technical people to iOS. Not phone enthusiasts necessarily. At my workplace you need to be running non-rooted Android or iOS to be able to use work stuff from your phone. From that lens, if I can't install non-signed software or mess with the personal side of the OS... I might as well have an iPhone. |
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Nocklusamigos
lemmy.world
liuther9@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-09-15 |
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They don't care. They will profit more cause most customers dont know about sideloading. |
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hornedfiend
piefed.social
hornedfiend@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-21 |
As a hobbyist if I can't side load my necessary apps to make my phone functional, then I have a non-functional device. And if my device is non-functional then there is no point in having one. I'll legitimately just go back to a flip phone or have no phone. And there's no fucking way I'm touching a iPhone.
Not defending Samsung, not by a long shot, but isn't referring to the ability to sideload in recovery (roms)? It doesn't seem to affect normal sideloading for apps. Still very shitty move regardless. |
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Programman4233
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Programman4233@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-10-21 |
If I download the latest software update on my s23 ultra, I will no longer be able to sideload? |
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