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Lucius_Sweet
lemmy.world
Lucius_Sweet@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-28 |
The Iranians' biggest mistake here were to be weak. Ever since 2020 when Trump first attacked them, they failed to achieve any meaningful retaliation, and they have successively failed to achieve any till today. Seeing that Iran did nothing but a face saving strike when the US took down Solemeni, the Israelis went ahead with striking their consulate in 2024. Seeing yet another weak response, th...
You are comparing Trump to a shark smelling blood in the water, this is an interesting choice by yourself. You talk about America attacking Iran because they are "weak" but you never seem to question why America is attacking Iran, a country of 90 million people on the other side of the world. Why is the real question here, why is America spending billions of dollars, American lives and American international credibility to attack Iran, a country that has never attacked the USA or any other nation in the middle east unprovoked? Why did America attack Iraq back in the early 2000s? At the time 70% of Americans mistakenly thought it was because Iraq was involved in 9/11. We now know from declassified documents that the main reason the USA attacked Iraq was they thought Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or "WMDs". This information came from Israeli secret intelligence and we now know this intelligence was bogus. What we are seeing here is the Americans being led by the nose once again by the Israelis into another expensive regime change forever war. I and many others believe this is down to the weakness of the character of the American leadership, that they are so easily manipulated once again by their Israeli "allies". The same allies that attacked the USS Liberty and spit on American Christians in Tel Aviv. Why do Israelis have free health care and the Americans do not? The USA is subservient to the Israelis to such a degree the only logical explanation to any rational thinker is that Israel must have something on the current American leadership. This will be known as the Epstein war. P |
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BlameTheAntifa
lemmy.world
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-07-22 |
This whole country is fucking satanic death cult
That’s not fair, satanists are some of the kindest, most ethical people you are likely to meet. |
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lumettaria
sopuli.xyz
lumettaria@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2026-02-10 |
You're forgetting the Dow Jones is over 50k
Over fifty thou! |
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Xanthrax
lemmy.world
Xanthrax@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-15 |
Obviously, they're liberating the world of women from Iran /s |
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Xabbit🐰
lemmy.zip
xabit24368@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-02-25 |
lol, I was perfectly calm and not angry in the least. That's still the case. In fact I was stoned and probably a little too chill when I wrote the above comment. If you read anger into that, you were waaay off. Tbh, I was feeling generous and taking the time to explain to you why everyone here was downvoting you about things you didn't seem to understand as a gesture of good faith and good will...
Great! glad to know you're back with us. Ready when you are. |
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NotASharkInAManSuit
lemmy.world
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-05-06 |
The Iranians' biggest mistake here were to be weak. Ever since 2020 when Trump first attacked them, they failed to achieve any meaningful retaliation, and they have successively failed to achieve any till today. Seeing that Iran did nothing but a face saving strike when the US took down Solemeni, the Israelis went ahead with striking their consulate in 2024. Seeing yet another weak response, th...
Don’t act like you understand sharks, that’s such human ignorance, you don’t know what’s going on in the mind of a shark, don’t speak for us-THEM! Don’t speak for them. Sharks aren’t comparable to that human swine, he could never breach like a majestic god from the almighty wakes of the sea, much less split a seal in twain with his paltry, finite, and weak breakable human teeth. His species has accomplished nothing and will crumble like all the others that came before! Sharks were there before you and they will be there when the memory of humans crumbles to dust and fades to nothing like tears in the rain! |
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NotASharkInAManSuit
lemmy.world
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-05-06 |
How is Iran even supposed to retaliate against a country that regularly guns down its own children?
Nobody kills our school children but us, and we’re the best at it. |
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rwrwefwef
sh.itjust.works
rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-01-20 |
You are comparing Trump to a shark smelling blood in the water, this is an interesting choice by yourself. You talk about America attacking Iran because they are "weak" but you never seem to question why America is attacking Iran, a country of 90 million people on the other side of the world. Why is the real question here, why is America spending billions of dollars, American lives and American...
Reasons for the invasion matter of course, but they matter for different people. The American people deserve to know why their treasury is being expended on a war half across the world instead of being used to improve life at home. Or exactly what improvements they reap in terms of security by fighting this war, if their administration is going to tell them that Iran is two weeks from getting the bomb for the last decade anyway. But these reasons are irrelevant for Iran. Trump could be attacking Iran because he legitimately feels threatened; or for its oil; or to distract the public, or maybe simply because he wants to build a Trump Tower&Casino in Persepolis. The point is that, whatever the insane reasons the United States have for their attack, Iran CANNOT prevent them from acting upon them. Nor can it change the minds of those in charge of writing American foreign policy; no more than the Zulus could change the reasons for why the British Empire attacked them, for example. What Iran CAN do is set clear consequences for attacks on its sovereignty. "You strike our Consulate. Fine." Two days later Hzb retaliates on a diplomatic mission of the Epstein Coalition. "You kill our officials. Okay" A week later an American military contractor happens to "disappear". And so on. This is tit-for-tat retaliation. Reasons for war are for the American people to debate on. And I agree with the idea that with such baseless reasons, it really does show the corruption of the leadership that started this war, as well as of those who do nothing to prevent it. But for Iran, it isn't about determining whether the reasons of their attacker are good or bad. It is about making the likelihood of an attack go from possible to impossible, without significant casualties. And Iran has blundered massively on the latter. |
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LemmeAtEm
lemmy.ml
LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-08-13 |
Great! glad to know you're back with us. Ready when you are.
Ok, so unfortunately it seems you're not capable of following a conversation or understanding what is happening around you. I tried to help ya out kid, but you just aren't giving me anything to work with here. Good luck, you're going to need it. |
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Xabbit🐰
lemmy.zip
xabit24368@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-02-25 |
Ok, so unfortunately it seems you're not capable of following a conversation or understanding what is happening around you. I tried to help ya out kid, but you just aren't giving me anything to work with here. Good luck, you're going to need it.
I thought you said you weren't mad |
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rwrwefwef
sh.itjust.works
rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-01-20 |
Don’t act like you understand sharks, that’s such human ignorance, you don’t know what’s going on in the mind of a shark, don’t speak for us-THEM! Don’t speak for them. Sharks aren’t comparable to that human swine, he could never breach like a majestic god from the almighty wakes of the sea, much less split a seal in twain with his paltry, finite, and weak breakable human teeth. His species has...
Apologies, your Majesty. A Great White is indeed a formidable creature. Trump is nothing like that, although he is trying too hard to be... |
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LemmeAtEm
lemmy.ml
LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-08-13 |
I thought you said you weren't mad
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ryathal
sh.itjust.works
ryathal@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-16 |
Isn't war something that needs to go through congress? On top of that, isn't this an international joint operation between two nations that DEFINITELY would need to go through congress? Doesn't matter? Okay.
Congress gave the president the power to wage an unlimited amount of war so long as troops are removed by the 90 day mark. Even then if troops are gone before the court rules, it doesn't matter either, as was ruled under Clinton. |
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calmblue75
lemmy.ml
calmblue75@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-10-06 |
Then I'll permit you to say “The Trump Administration” is a terrorist state or "The Biden Administration" is a terrorist state.
lmao |
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Lucius_Sweet
lemmy.world
Lucius_Sweet@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-28 |
Reasons for the invasion matter of course, but they matter for different people. The American people deserve to know why their treasury is being expended on a war half across the world instead of being used to improve life at home. Or exactly what improvements they reap in terms of security by fighting this war, if their administration is going to tell them that Iran is two weeks from getting t...
I understand the concept of tit for tat retaliation, the problem is American foreign policy for these instances is tit for tat tat. America makes sure its retaliatory responses are overwhelming making a tit for tat deterrence useless against them, this is the advantage of having the largest stick in the world. This is also why America's rivals engage in asymmetric warfare with layers of plausible deniability. This also assumes Iran is dealing with a rational actor acting logically, there is no evidence Trump is one in this case. This strike has no logical beneficial outcome for the American people, it will be interesting to see if Congress allows America to continue. Trumps reasons for doing Netenyahus bidding to the detriment of the American people is certainly a choice that we can all speculate on. I disagree with your comparing Iran Vs US to the Brits Vs the Zulu's. It is almost as if you have slept through the last 110 years of insurgency warfare and how effective it can be. Iran is a huge country with a population of 90 million. The USA can bomb with impunity sure but Iran has more people than Afghanistan and Iraq combined with greater military capabilities. Boots on the ground will be needed, you can't win a war with stand off munitions alone. America was entirely unsuccessful with their previous two attempts at regime change by force this century, why would they do better against a bigger and better armed country? Look at the bunch of clowns in charge in America currently, I would not trust them to mind my plants for a week away let alone regime change in Iran. |
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lumettaria
sopuli.xyz
lumettaria@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2026-02-10 |
Congress gave the president the power to wage an unlimited amount of war so long as troops are removed by the 90 day mark. Even then if troops are gone before the court rules, it doesn't matter either, as was ruled under Clinton.
What a truly terrible, terrible country. |
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Zerush
lemmy.ml
Zerush@lemmy.mlJoined: 2021-04-25 |
Always was |
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Zerush
lemmy.ml
Zerush@lemmy.mlJoined: 2021-04-25 |
As a vampire, i'm ashamed of being in the same class as him. He's embarrassing all of us.
Vampires and ticks are not the same class (well, sorry for the ticks) |
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Xabbit🐰
lemmy.zip
xabit24368@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-02-25 |
lol |
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myszka
lemmy.ml
myszka@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-10-16 |
Sure there's been a wave of imperialist wars, but it would have to cascade out of control and legitimately threaten world superpowers directly for a world war to break out. All this adventurism taking place is unfortunately just par for the course. IMO something truly unprecedented like the US launching a ground invasion against Mexico would have to happen to set off a cascade. I don't think ev...
Yes... I hope we'll live through it |
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