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Fortunafors lemmy.world Fortunafors@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-10
#252 · Quote Reply

Conflating Israel and Jews is called antisemitism. If someone is just anti-Israel, they don't become antisemitic from that (but it sure invites a lot of antisemites who smell a possible convert)

Not quite, cause semites also includes Muslim Arabs, also most Anti-israel people are just anti-zionism, The thing is most people that are anti-israel are just anti-jews because they know nothing they talk about.

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wonderingwanderer sopuli.xyz wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-12-31
#253 · Quote Reply

The NATO supporting anti-capitalist. Meh. You're a lost cause. I'm quite alright. I have better things to do than speak with a future fascist.

You think the russian federation isn't a fascist and and ultra-capitalist oligarchy/kleptocracy?

Cause that's what you seem to be insinuating when you suggest that supporting NATO makes me a fascist...

The entire world-order (Yes, including the PRC and the BRICS bloc) is capitalist. I can be against capitalism, while also supporting the defense pact that enables Europe to maintain a unified front against russian imperialist aggression.

Because economies and political institutions, although deeply interconnected, are two different things. And russian fascism isn't any better than american fascism.

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pucker4676 lemmy.ml pucker4676@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-01-17
#254 · Quote Reply

You think the russian federation isn't a fascist and and ultra-capitalist oligarchy/kleptocracy? Cause that's what you seem to be insinuating when you suggest that supporting NATO makes me a fascist... The entire world-order (Yes, including the PRC and the BRICS bloc) is capitalist. I can be against capitalism, while also supporting the defense pact that enables Europe to maintain a unified fro...

It gets better. Supporting NATO because you're against imperialism. You truly are the progressivest.

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flying_sheep lemmy.ml flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-09-09
#255 · Quote Reply

Not quite, cause semites also includes Muslim Arabs, also most Anti-israel people are just anti-zionism, The thing is most people that are anti-israel are just anti-jews because they know nothing they talk about.

When I was 14, I also wisecracked that, but then

  1. I learned that linguistics is a descriptive discipline, not a prescriptive one: meaning correspond to usage, not what a word is “supposed” to mean
  2. I realized that words often have meanings that don't correspond to their literal translation

So no, antisemitism doesn't refer to any semitic tribes that aren't Jewish.

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flying_sheep lemmy.ml flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-09-09
#256 · Quote Reply

First of all, eww, don't speak so casually about death. And no, lol, the only ones saying that are expats living in the West, of course. 😅

No on both accounts. You're wrong, both in your attempt to regulate my language and your assertion.

You can literally find (actual real non-AI) footage of people being close enough to the explosion that they should be terrified, but they're elated instead.

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Gammelfisch lemmy.world Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-05
#257 · Quote Reply

You forgot Bibi but he’s worse than the others

Indeed, add his worthless murdering ass too.

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wonderingwanderer sopuli.xyz wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-12-31
#258 · Quote Reply

It gets better. Supporting NATO because you're against imperialism. You truly are the progressivest.

I don't have time to argue with vatnik shills.

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Cort lemmy.world Cort@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-06
#259 · Quote Reply

You forgot Bibi but he’s worse than the others

They said Ben, is there another Ben that's not Netanyahu?

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Fortunafors lemmy.world Fortunafors@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-10
#260 · Quote Reply

When I was 14, I also wisecracked that, but then I learned that linguistics is a descriptive discipline, not a prescriptive one: meaning correspond to usage, not what a word is “supposed” to mean I realized that words often have meanings that don't correspond to their literal translation So no, antisemitism doesn't refer to any semitic tribes that aren't Jewish.

I agree with you that words meaning is a thing of context, and what matters the most is what people imply when they use it, generalization usually takes a person to the wrong path; the only real guide for almost everything is the context.

IMO, anti-Semitism is more used to refer to anti-muslim sentiment than anti-jew sentiment, but I guess the location on earth that I walk matters a lot.

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flying_sheep lemmy.ml flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-09-09
#261 · Quote Reply

I agree with you that words meaning is a thing of context, and what matters the most is what people imply when they use it, generalization usually takes a person to the wrong path; the only real guide for almost everything is the context. IMO, anti-Semitism is more used to refer to anti-muslim sentiment than anti-jew sentiment, but I guess the location on earth that I walk matters a lot.

Where is that? I've never once heard of read of “antisemitism” being used that way

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itslilith lemmy.blahaj.zone itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-08-03
#262 · Quote Reply

They said Ben, is there another Ben that's not Netanyahu?

Maybe they're talking about Benito Mussolini?

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itslilith lemmy.blahaj.zone itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-08-03
#263 · Quote Reply

Are y'all doing a bit or are really this stupid? None of you seem to grasp what martyrdom means. He was an old man dying of cancer. He had plenty of opportunities to go hide in a bunker, but getting killed in an Israeli strike is the best thing that could happen to the Iranian regime. Anyone so clueless as to fall for that better prepare for a long and unsuccessful war.

death to america

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Fortunafors lemmy.world Fortunafors@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-10
#264 · Quote Reply

Where is that? I've never once heard of read of “antisemitism” being used that way

A region at the north of south America where Muslim is broadly practiced, not so many Jews here, and the word Islam-phobia isn't popular.

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But_my_mom_says_im_cool lemmy.world But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-01-09
#265 · (edited) Quote Reply

Iranians outside Iran hate their country like the Cubans of Florida do. You can't trust anything they say. You would understand better if the Jews had killed the pope and were dancing in the streets and Zionist media were labeling him a murdering paedophile who deserved to die.

You have to really go out of your way to be this uneducated, like really there are endless sources on the atrocities and abuses by the royal guard of Iran and the ayatollah, you have to avoid and refuse to read them to have your viewpoint.

P.s Castro was also a murderer and madman, you’re just too young to remember him as anything but the bearded old man with a cigar , you didn’t see their brutal rise to power, so all that death must have been a Jewish lie right?

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But_my_mom_says_im_cool lemmy.world But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-01-09
#266 · Quote Reply

Some people are just so anti-USA and anti-israel that they can't see further than "USA and Jews bad, everyone else good".

Reminds me of when the US took out Saddam, the US was wrong for invading Iraq. But saddam was not a good guy and deserved to die. Both can be true. And I do remember during the Iraq invasion people defending Saddam, not the people of Iraq but defending Saddam as a guy who was good cause he opposed America

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Mrkawfee feddit.uk Mrkawfee@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-08-01
#267 · Quote Reply

You have to really go out of your way to be this uneducated, like really there are endless sources on the atrocities and abuses by the royal guard of Iran and the ayatollah, you have to avoid and refuse to read them to have your viewpoint. P.s Castro was also a murderer and madman, you’re just too young to remember him as anything but the bearded old man with a cigar , you didn’t see their brut...

You think the Savak under the Shah was any better?

The West's perception of Iran has for over 40 years been steered by Israel fanatics who despise Iran.

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SpaceCowboy lemmy.ca SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-17
#268 · Quote Reply

Nobody's complaining about his death here. But everybody should be worried about this new trend of Trump deciding who's deemed fit to rule and who's not.

This is obviously weakening Trump, so it's killing two birds with one stone. You never know Americans seem to love him no matter what, but it looks like he's lost a lot of support. So the Ayatollah is dead and maybe Americans will get their head out of their asses and actually vote for the political opposition.

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But_my_mom_says_im_cool lemmy.world But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-01-09
#269 · Quote Reply

You think the Savak under the Shah was any better? The West's perception of Iran has for over 40 years been steered by Israel fanatics who despise Iran.

You know what I think? I think it’s none of our damn business. Do you see Iran sending troops to stop Mexican cartels? Maybe it’s not americas damn job to police the other side of the world, especially when their own country is a dumpster fire.
This past few years even the American left has decided they’re the world police.

My perception of Iran from the last 40 years has been steered by Iranians i personally know who fled the regime. By your logic let’s ignore all the people Fidel Castro murdered and imprisoned illegally for decades, cause our views of him are painted by fleeing Cubans.
You are likely too young to remember the actual atrocities, murders, rapes, mass executions. So you think it was bloodless and “the country seems chill”

Castro is a good comparison, all you guys remember a quirky old bearded man with a cigar who looks harmless. Cause you weren’t around for the bloody rise to power and executions

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